User talk:Catalyst/Active and Passive Abilities - Revision history

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imported>Altes at 14:09, 8 August 2009

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	***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption (abilities such as that should probably be in an "unknown" category or omitted). Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption (abilities such as that should probably be in an "unknown" category or omitted). Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
	* I like the idea of this page in the [[Portal:Fan Canon Analysis\|one of the fan creations portals]]. A long time ago, we used to list which abilities were active and which were passive on the [[list of abilities]]. (See [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Powers&oldid=9151 here for a snapshot of the template] way back when, or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Controllable/Uncontrollable\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#New(est) Format\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Activation Categories\|here]] for early discussions. In fact, the <code>type=controlled</code> code still exists on some of the older abilities on the [[list of abilities]].) We realized very quickly that those two options were not the only options, though. For instance, [[induced radioactivity]] is at times an active ability, and at times a passive ability. We used the terms "controlled, uncontrolled, induced, emotional, automatic," and those seemed to work. You might want to think about expanding the classification to include different categories. Remember, for instance, that at one time, Nathan was unable to control his flight. Hiro has teleported against his will. Unless some of those instances are addressed on this page (perhaps the page needs to be reformatted), I don't think it should be moved into the main namespace. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:55, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		* I like the idea of this page in the [[Portal:Fan Canon Analysis\|one of the fan creations portals]]. A long time ago, we used to list which abilities were active and which were passive on the [[list of abilities]]. (See [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Powers&oldid=9151 here for a snapshot of the template] way back when, or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Controllable/Uncontrollable\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#New(est) Format\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Activation Categories\|here]] for early discussions. In fact, the <code>type=controlled</code> code still exists on some of the older abilities on the [[list of abilities]].) We realized very quickly that those two options were not the only options, though. For instance, [[induced radioactivity]] is at times an active ability, and at times a passive ability. We used the terms "controlled, uncontrolled, induced, emotional, automatic," and those seemed to work. You might want to think about expanding the classification to include different categories. Remember, for instance, that at one time, Nathan was unable to control his flight. Hiro has teleported against his will. Unless some of those instances are addressed on this page (perhaps the page needs to be reformatted), I don't think it should be moved into the main namespace. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:55, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

			== Precognition ==
			Hey there Catalyst =) and you know, precognition isn't a passive ability. Sometimes precogs can activate it at will, or cannot activate at all. {{User:Altes/Signature}}

imported>Ryangibsonstewart: /* Consensus for move to main namespace */

2009-03-30T14:55:59Z

Consensus for move to main namespace

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	**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
	***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption (abilities such as that should probably be in an "unknown" category or omitted). Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption (abilities such as that should probably be in an "unknown" category or omitted). Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
			* I like the idea of this page in the [[Portal:Fan Canon Analysis\|one of the fan creations portals]]. A long time ago, we used to list which abilities were active and which were passive on the [[list of abilities]]. (See [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Powers&oldid=9151 here for a snapshot of the template] way back when, or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Controllable/Uncontrollable\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#New(est) Format\|here]] or [[Talk:Powers/Archive 1#Activation Categories\|here]] for early discussions. In fact, the <code>type=controlled</code> code still exists on some of the older abilities on the [[list of abilities]].) We realized very quickly that those two options were not the only options, though. For instance, [[induced radioactivity]] is at times an active ability, and at times a passive ability. We used the terms "controlled, uncontrolled, induced, emotional, automatic," and those seemed to work. You might want to think about expanding the classification to include different categories. Remember, for instance, that at one time, Nathan was unable to control his flight. Hiro has teleported against his will. Unless some of those instances are addressed on this page (perhaps the page needs to be reformatted), I don't think it should be moved into the main namespace. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:55, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Consensus for move to main namespace */

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Consensus for move to main namespace

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	* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))		* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))
	**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
	***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption. Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption (abilities such as that should probably be in an "unknown" category or omitted). Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>MiamiVolts: /* Consensus for move to main namespace */ my input

2009-03-30T07:49:14Z

Consensus for move to main namespace: my input

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	* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))		* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))
	**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)		**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
			***Yes, we should use "and" for titles unless the ampersand is part of a proper name. Also, I doubt that "Bliss and horror" is a passive ability. One thing to consider is whether some of the other abilities mentioned such as "nerve gas emission" are also passive abilities. Since we only have one reference, we are making a rather large assumption. Something that could probably be done to help maintain this, if we want to keep this, is to make it autoupdate from the ability pages themselves by adding an extra field to each ability's infobox and using DPL on this page to grab the values. However, the split that is currently made between mental, physical, etc. is definitely a theory (see [[Theory:Abilities by Dr. Suresh's category]]), so it needs to be removed.--[[User:MiamiVolts\|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts\|talk]]) 03:49, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Tristan0709: /* Consensus for move to main namespace */

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	* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))		* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))
			**Sidenote: Should we use the word "and" rather than an ampersand? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:40, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

imported>Admin: /* Consensus for move to main namespace */ new section

2009-03-30T06:07:20Z

Consensus for move to main namespace: new section

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	Thanks, I was working on this at 2:00 am. I wasn't thinking. --[[User:Catalyst\|Catalyst]]		Thanks, I was working on this at 2:00 am. I wasn't thinking. --[[User:Catalyst\|Catalyst]]

			== Consensus for move to main namespace ==

			* Since it looks like there's desire to move this to the main namespace, let's open up discussion to determine if there's consensus. The article name will need to be changed first to "Active & passive abilities" I believe in order to fit in with our naming convention. Other than the first word we don't capitalize words unless they're proper nouns. Other than that I'd only like to see some more support for the move and then I think it would be possible. I'm a little concerned about the maintainability of the article since it will need to be updated for each new ability. I suspect this article will fall out of date in time. ([[User:Admin\|Admin]] 02:07, 30 March 2009 (EDT))

imported>Admin: Talk:Active & Passive Abilities moved to User talk:Catalyst/Active & Passive Abilities over redirect: Requires consensus among a number of people before it can be moved

2009-03-30T05:57:40Z

Talk:Active & Passive Abilities moved to User talk:Catalyst/Active & Passive Abilities over redirect: Requires consensus among a number of people before it can be moved

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imported>SacValleyDweller: User talk:Catalyst/Active & Passive Abilities moved to Talk:Active & Passive Abilities

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