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		<title>imported&gt;Hardvice: +archivepage, +tocpage</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;+archivepage, +tocpage&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Hardvice: +archivepage, +tocpage</title>
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*****Dunno if there are real-world pics ... it&#039;s an old Hindu thing IIRC and I think the recipe has been lost to the mists of history, but I&#039;ll look.  I got caps of the three appearances I&#039;ve found so far.  I couldn&#039;t find any in The Crane, Isaac&#039;s First Time, Turning Point, Super-Heroics, or Wireless 1, though.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:57, 31 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;*****Dunno if there are real-world pics ... it&#039;s an old Hindu thing IIRC and I think the recipe has been lost to the mists of history, but I&#039;ll look.  I got caps of the three appearances I&#039;ve found so far.  I couldn&#039;t find any in The Crane, Isaac&#039;s First Time, Turning Point, Super-Heroics, or Wireless 1, though.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 00:57, 31 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Ryangibsonstewart: /* Computers belonging to mothers RULE! */ rmv red links</title>
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		<updated>2007-02-26T14:37:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Computers belonging to mothers RULE!: &lt;/span&gt; rmv red links&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hey, welcome back! I&#039;m at my in-laws, and I&#039;m just &#039;&#039;loving&#039;&#039; the computer here... Not much action going on. I made some minor changes here and there, did some category resorts. As I think you already saw, somebody decided to change &quot;Suggestion&quot; to [[Persuasion]], which I like; somebody else changed &quot;Cryokinesis&quot; (and other -kinesis powers) to [[Ice generation]], etc. I&#039;m not a big fan of the new moniker, but what the hey. Check out &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[:&lt;/del&gt;Template:Wikipediapar&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt; and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[:&lt;/del&gt;Template:Wikipedia&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt; - I&#039;m not sure how I feel about it. I&#039;m not really opposed, but I think a simple &quot;See Also&quot; or sidebar link would be fine for referencing Wikipedia articles. Hope you had a nice time at home! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 00:42, 26 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hey, welcome back! I&#039;m at my in-laws, and I&#039;m just &#039;&#039;loving&#039;&#039; the computer here... Not much action going on. I made some minor changes here and there, did some category resorts. As I think you already saw, somebody decided to change &quot;Suggestion&quot; to [[Persuasion]], which I like; somebody else changed &quot;Cryokinesis&quot; (and other -kinesis powers) to [[Ice generation]], etc. I&#039;m not a big fan of the new moniker, but what the hey. Check out &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Template:Wikipediapar&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt; and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Template:Wikipedia&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt; - I&#039;m not sure how I feel about it. I&#039;m not really opposed, but I think a simple &quot;See Also&quot; or sidebar link would be fine for referencing Wikipedia articles. Hope you had a nice time at home! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 00:42, 26 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I don&#039;t really care for &quot;ice generation&quot; either since ice is just a side-effect of freezing water... and the power is more likely to be related to freezing in general than being limited to freezing water.  At the same time I dont think &quot;cryokinesis&quot; is an actual word.  So I&#039;m not sure where to go with this one.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 01:21, 26 December 2006 (EST))&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I don&#039;t really care for &quot;ice generation&quot; either since ice is just a side-effect of freezing water... and the power is more likely to be related to freezing in general than being limited to freezing water.  At the same time I dont think &quot;cryokinesis&quot; is an actual word.  So I&#039;m not sure where to go with this one.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 01:21, 26 December 2006 (EST))&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Orne: oops, missed one</title>
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		<updated>2007-02-08T23:36:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;oops, missed one&lt;/p&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Take a look at &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;Prophecy/test2&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt;.  It&#039;s basically the same as Orne&#039;s, but I split each pair of paintings into a separate template call.  That should make it easier to move one column without affecting the other.  What do you think?--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:12, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Take a look at &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Prophecy/test2&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;.  It&#039;s basically the same as Orne&#039;s, but I split each pair of paintings into a separate template call.  That should make it easier to move one column without affecting the other.  What do you think?--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:12, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Man, your talk page is getting long ... must be the end of the year!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Okay, it looks great. A few concerns - the captions go beyond the pictures to the left and the right to the point of being a bit distracting. Not that big of a deal, but if it can be fixed ... Also, I wish there was some way to either put a dividing line down the middle, or better yet, put just a &#039;&#039;little&#039;&#039; more space between the two sides. That way it wouldn&#039;t read like it was four paintings that have to do with each other, but rather 2 columns for the paintings and a 2 for the comics.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Okay, it looks great. A few concerns - the captions go beyond the pictures to the left and the right to the point of being a bit distracting. Not that big of a deal, but if it can be fixed ... Also, I wish there was some way to either put a dividing line down the middle, or better yet, put just a &#039;&#039;little&#039;&#039; more space between the two sides. That way it wouldn&#039;t read like it was four paintings that have to do with each other, but rather 2 columns for the paintings and a 2 for the comics.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;Orne</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://heroeswiki.ddns.net/index.php?title=User_talk:Hardvice/Dec&amp;diff=400583&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;Orne: /* Artwork Redirects */ removed refs to deleted page</title>
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		<updated>2007-02-08T23:34:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Artwork Redirects: &lt;/span&gt; removed refs to deleted page&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 23:34, 8 February 2007&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What do you think about having the resized artwork ([[:Image:Exploding man artwork.jpg]], the resize [[prophecy]] paintings, etc.) redirect to the fullsize artwork (e.g., [[:Image:Painting burning man.jpg]], etc.)? That way, if someone clicks on a thumbnail for the smaller, resized, (incomplete) picture, they will be taken to the full pic. Thoughts? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 20:13, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What do you think about having the resized artwork ([[:Image:Exploding man artwork.jpg]], the resize [[prophecy]] paintings, etc.) redirect to the fullsize artwork (e.g., [[:Image:Painting burning man.jpg]], etc.)? That way, if someone clicks on a thumbnail for the smaller, resized, (incomplete) picture, they will be taken to the full pic. Thoughts? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 20:13, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Good idea.  Two ways to do it: 1. Make the image page a redirect.  Sloppy, but easy, and the copyright info should be the same. 2. Adjust the template for prophecy to link to the images like the portals do.  More work initially, less maintenance.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:49, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Good idea.  Two ways to do it: 1. Make the image page a redirect.  Sloppy, but easy, and the copyright info should be the same. 2. Adjust the template for prophecy to link to the images like the portals do.  More work initially, less maintenance.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:49, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Yes, I like the template idea ... however, I&#039;m not quite sure how to do it. The other issue with changing the template is that it doesn&#039;t cover &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; uses of the picture. For instance, [[:Image:Painting prophecy sylar jackie.jpg]] is used on the [[prophecy]] page, as well as [[brain removal]] and [[power mimicry]] (because it shows &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; Jackie dead, or &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; the part Peter painted), but should link to the full size picture. And then there&#039;s the case of [[:Image:Missing painting items.jpg]] and other pics used in the portals or as lead article pics that should redirect to the full size paintings... My gut says to do it &quot;the messy&quot; way - I don&#039;t think it would be a bad way to do it. What exactly are your concerns? &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; While we&#039;re on the subject, what&#039;s going on with the [[prophecy]] page? I know you said both have their issues, but that you preferred Orne&#039;s &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;prophecy/test&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt; over &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;prophecy/test2&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt;. I agree. Should we change the page? Do we want to solicit some feedback? &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Thanks for lending me your ear (um, eye)! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:15, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;** Yes, I like the template idea ... however, I&#039;m not quite sure how to do it. The other issue with changing the template is that it doesn&#039;t cover &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; uses of the picture. For instance, [[:Image:Painting prophecy sylar jackie.jpg]] is used on the [[prophecy]] page, as well as [[brain removal]] and [[power mimicry]] (because it shows &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; Jackie dead, or &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; the part Peter painted), but should link to the full size picture. And then there&#039;s the case of [[:Image:Missing painting items.jpg]] and other pics used in the portals or as lead article pics that should redirect to the full size paintings... My gut says to do it &quot;the messy&quot; way - I don&#039;t think it would be a bad way to do it. What exactly are your concerns? &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; While we&#039;re on the subject, what&#039;s going on with the [[prophecy]] page? I know you said both have their issues, but that you preferred Orne&#039;s &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;prophecy/test&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt; over &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;prophecy/test2&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;. I agree. Should we change the page? Do we want to solicit some feedback? &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Thanks for lending me your ear (um, eye)! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:15, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***I hadn&#039;t thought about the other uses of the prophecy images.  That makes the redirects option more attractive.  The only possible problem is that we have to remember 1)to set up redirects for new images as they are added and 2)to keep up with redirects if the full-sized images are moved, renamed, deleted, etc.  We pretty much always check &quot;what links here&quot; when we  move or delete things, so #2 shouldn&#039;t be a problem, and #1 is not much worse than what we&#039;d have to do with the template.  I say go for it.  (PS: if you run into problems with the redirects &quot;not working&quot;, hit CTRL+F5.  Firefox likes to cache short pages like image pages, so when I did the images for Portal:Places as redirects, I thought the redirects weren&#039;t working until I cleared my cache.)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;As for [[Prophecy]]: I like Orne&#039;s version better because there&#039;s no way to make my version work 100% of the time on different browsers, resolutions, etc.  The only problem with Orne&#039;s is maintenance: if we need to insert an image halfway down the page, we end up having to adjust all of the template calls after it manually up.  It just occurred to me that we can maybe do this more smoothly by making the left and  right columns separate template calls ... it&#039;d still be bad, but at least we could cut and paste more easily.  Let me work on it a bit and see if I can come up with a more maintenance-friendly version, and then we can go with Orne&#039;s or a version of it.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:26, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;***I hadn&#039;t thought about the other uses of the prophecy images.  That makes the redirects option more attractive.  The only possible problem is that we have to remember 1)to set up redirects for new images as they are added and 2)to keep up with redirects if the full-sized images are moved, renamed, deleted, etc.  We pretty much always check &quot;what links here&quot; when we  move or delete things, so #2 shouldn&#039;t be a problem, and #1 is not much worse than what we&#039;d have to do with the template.  I say go for it.  (PS: if you run into problems with the redirects &quot;not working&quot;, hit CTRL+F5.  Firefox likes to cache short pages like image pages, so when I did the images for Portal:Places as redirects, I thought the redirects weren&#039;t working until I cleared my cache.)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;As for [[Prophecy]]: I like Orne&#039;s version better because there&#039;s no way to make my version work 100% of the time on different browsers, resolutions, etc.  The only problem with Orne&#039;s is maintenance: if we need to insert an image halfway down the page, we end up having to adjust all of the template calls after it manually up.  It just occurred to me that we can maybe do this more smoothly by making the left and  right columns separate template calls ... it&#039;d still be bad, but at least we could cut and paste more easily.  Let me work on it a bit and see if I can come up with a more maintenance-friendly version, and then we can go with Orne&#039;s or a version of it.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:26, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;****Redirects: Thanks for the warnings. I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll be too much maintenance, but maybe I&#039;m being short-sighted. I&#039;ll get on the redirects later tonight (I have some deadlines before 12/31 - ugh.) And thanks for the tip about Firefox - I&#039;m still not at home, and am using random computers while on vacation. Double ugh. &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Prophecy: Thanks for all your work. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to have &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; much maintenance to do on it. Check out the [[screencaps]] page before you get too into it to see if any of those unused pics should be used. I think after that it should just be the pics we already have, plus ones we&#039;ll add on the end. Again, thanks for all you do! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:33, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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  &lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;****Redirects: Thanks for the warnings. I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll be too much maintenance, but maybe I&#039;m being short-sighted. I&#039;ll get on the redirects later tonight (I have some deadlines before 12/31 - ugh.) And thanks for the tip about Firefox - I&#039;m still not at home, and am using random computers while on vacation. Double ugh. &amp;lt;p&amp;gt; Prophecy: Thanks for all your work. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to have &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; much maintenance to do on it. Check out the [[screencaps]] page before you get too into it to see if any of those unused pics should be used. I think after that it should just be the pics we already have, plus ones we&#039;ll add on the end. Again, thanks for all you do! - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 22:33, 29 December 2006 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;Orne</name></author>
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		<title>imported&gt;Hardvice: archive talk, fix red link</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-01T05:39:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;archive talk, fix red link&lt;/p&gt;
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