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==Lightning?== |
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Is the only reason why people aren't calling it lightning, is because it's red? Because it looks self-explanatory to me. What else could it be? It looks EXACTLY like Elle's power only it's red and not blue white. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 10:14, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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* I agree, Ando's ability IS lightning. If we can say that Meredith and Flint both have pryokinesis, even though her's is natural colored and his is blue, then we should put Ando's ability under lightning. - [[User:FlyingMan|FlyingMan]] 12:39, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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* We haven't got any information about this power. We can't be sure that it is "Lightning", so, I thin that "Ando's ability" is better. - [[User:Henryp|Henryp]] 19:34, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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** There's really nothing that distinguishes Ando's power from lightning except color, and that's hardly a huge distinction. Unless we learn that his power has some more distinctive properties, I don't see why this requires its own page. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 13:50, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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***We're not going to call it "Lightning" yet because there's no definitive evidence that it is the same or even related to that ability. Flint's Pyrokinesis is labeled Pyrokinesis based on his assignment tracker and because it is distinctly similar to Meredith's example of the ability. Ando's ability may not be electricity-based or it may function entirely differently from Lightning. Plus, if people search for Ando's ability to look for new info on it, it'll bring them here, where all the definitive info we have on the power is.--[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 13:54, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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**** It did look like lightning to me, but it could also have been some other kind of energy blast, so I'm fine with waiting a little longer to see if we get any more clues to the name.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 14:09, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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***** I agree that it's Lightning, just colored differently. But there's really no evidence of that within the show. Our evidence for Flint having differently colored Pyrokinesis is that his AT says he has it and his power has thus far been very similar to Meredith's. Not so with Ando's ability. When some evidence appears canonically showing the two abilities to be related, then I'm sure we'll all be more than happy to move this on over to the Lightning page.--[[User:Paronine|Paronine]] 14:27, 25 September 2008 (EDT) |
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****** I believe it's Lighting because of the way it is coming out of his hand and because of the noise it makes. It sound like the noise Elle's does as seen on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wuVbvoLBj4 |
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******* It is in fact lightning, a different kind, from Elle's lightning, but it is lightning, and it should be renamed to that (maybe in a seperate section, from Elle's ability) until we know exactly what it is. It's not like [[Mohinder's ability]], which we have no idea what's going on to him - I was gonna suggest Enhanced Senses, but when his skin started to peel off I had no idea what to name it with, except "Mohinder's ability", it's not like Ando's (ability which we know a little bit of what's going on). |
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******** Apart from the "crackling" seen on Hiro's body upon use of the ability, Ando's power almost looks like more of a "laser" than Elle's lightning power. That being said, I imagine we'll soon have an official reference for calling Ando's power a form of lightning, similar to the Blue Pyrokinesis with Flint. [[User:GabrielPatrelli|GabrielPatrelli]] 16:13, 29 September 2008 (EDT) |
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==Name change== |
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*Shouldn't this be called [[Future Ando's ability]]? --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 14:57, 1 October 2008 (EDT) |
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** Probably a good idea. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:11, 1 October 2008 (EDT) |
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==It's lightning.== |
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[http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b32560_heroes_are_hiro_ando_going_bad.html] --[[User:Pyramidhead|Pyramidhead]] 18:29, 8 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*Amen.--[[User:Referos|Referos]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT) |
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**A definite end to a debate that never should have happened in the first place... <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 20:33, 8 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*** Unfortunately, no. Commentary from the actors isn't considered reliable. Zachary Quinto once commented that he thought Sylar ate the brains to acquire their powers. The confirmation needs to come from the show or the writers. I'd recommend submitting it to CBR as something like, "Is the ability Future Ando uses to attack Future Hiro lightning or some other type of energy blast?" ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 20:48, 8 October 2008 (EDT)) |
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**** I agree with Admin. Also, imho, this is in the same boat as the Terrorist's ability from the latest graphic novel. Neither should be deleted, but we don't know enough about either to identify them.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:13, 8 October 2008 (EDT) |
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***** Amen to Admin and Miami Volts, people cant argue that "just because there is a color difference doesn't mean that its a different ability", Flint and Meredith have Pyrokinesis and the color of the fire does not matter, blue fire is simply hotter than red fire... Blue-white lightning is lightning... no matter the circumstances, i have never seen red lightning and you'll have to convince me more that red lightning is also something to do with voltage and current.--[[User:Pbmarcano|Pbmarcano]] 11:34, 11 October 2008 (EDT) |
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****** I am sorry, but red lightning [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning#Elves does exist]. Well, it's not like a thunderbolt, but it's still an electrical discharge. Also, if you alter the colors of Ando's beam to blue using an image editor program, it certainly looks like Elle's lightning.--[[User:Referos|Referos]] 12:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT) |
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****** [http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/46442/ Here's another (better?) photo] of real-life red lightning. According to the photographer, the color was caused by a reaction with pollutants.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 12:53, 11 October 2008 (EDT) |
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****** Did it ever occur to anyone that the color differences could simply just be for aesthetics? <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:33, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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****** And for everyone saying that red lightning doesn't exist... for goodness' sakes, this is '''''Heroes''''' we're talking about... <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:41, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*You could always [[Interview talk:Visual effects|ask]] ;).--[[User:Skywalkerrbf|Skywalkerrbf]] 12:58, 11 October 2008 (EDT) |
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** Unfortunately, it would really have to be a writer or producer to answer this question.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 13:08, 11 October 2008 (EDT) |
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***MV, every source of light in that photo has red tints to it, it could easily have been gradient mapped in photoshop or shotten through an altered lens or glass. (I practically alter images for a living) I'm not doubting red lightning exists at all im just doubting that Ando's ability is really lightning, plus we dont nearly have enough information to jump to the conclusion that its lightning. Based on just looks?! I mean for all we know its a beam that turns people's organs inside out! Don't judge a book by its cover my friends. I say just leave it until we get more information. (and if Hiro goes into explination telling Ando how his future self killed future hiro, i dont think that counts cause he knows as much as we do)--[[User:Pbmarcano|Pbmarcano]] 11:51, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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**** Would we have made a page for "Flint's ability" had Noah never shown Claire his assignment tracker page then? I mean, yeah, it looks totally like fire but we shouldn't base ability names on just looks... Besides, how does [http://heroeswiki.com/Image:Future_dead_hiro.jpg this] NOT look like electricity? <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:39, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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****Pbmarcano, I'm still not convinced we know for sure it is red lightning (though that's what it looks like to me), as I mentioned in my topmost comments. With my latter comment, I just wanted to rebuke those who were claiming there was no possibility it was red lightning.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:48, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*****We still don't know *for sure* that it kills Hiro --''[[User:Matchu|Matchu]]'' 20:27, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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******Consensus? --[[User:Pbmarcano|Pbmarcano]] 23:18, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*******The naming convention is: "If no non-speculative description is possible", then use the person's name. I think a consensus doesn't do anything because it's still speculation. We have no description from a canon or near-canon source, so everything else is mere speculation. As for the Masi Oka interview, as much as I honor Masi's intelligence, he's not a writer for the show. His description of an ability may not coincide with the writing/creative staff of the show. Plus, it's an interview with E!, so he's pandering to <s>idiots</s> potentially less-knowledgeable readers. --{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 23:35, 12 October 2008 (EDT) |
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********Personally I think it's speculation to think it's not lightning. The fact it looks like lightning beyond the fact it's red should be enough to call it lightning. I don't know where it doesn't look like lightning comes from. Ignoring the color for a moment, how is it unlike lightning? I hope I asked that right. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 01:45, 16 October 2008 (EDT) |
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* Personally, I don't see why we're using "6. Possessor's name" when Masi Oka's interview should count as "3. Secondary Sources - Interviews." Sure, it's not a writer being interviewed, but I don't see why we don't use the interview with Masi Oka until we receive more information on it. [[User:TheEvilNoob|TheEvilNoob]] 15:30, 18 October 2008 (EDT) |
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** Agreed. Surely Masi's comments would come under "Interview" being that they were said...during an interview. - [[User:Goldenboy|Goldenboy]] 11:09, 23 October 2008 (EDT) |
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*I think its electricity, but there are a few abilities involving electricity, or maybe this is a completely new one.--[[User:Dandabest|Dandabest]] ([[User talk:Dandabest|talk]]) 12:56, 27 October 2008 (EDT) |
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== There is no info on Ando's ability! == |
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We don't even know if it killed Hiro. For all we know it could some kind of coma-inducing ray. I say that people should hold off on the debates until there's a canonical reason to call it lightning or otherwise. I haven't been on this site for that long and I've already figured out how the naming system here works; if it's canon, they name it so, if it's not, it remains debatable. Seeing as the lightning debate is so large why not just wait and see??? - [[User:FlamingTomDude|FlamingTomDude]] 12:46, October 8th 2008 (EDT) |
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==Energy Blast== |
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Seems a pretty good name to me. wanna change? --[[User:Manwithnoname|Manwithnoname]] 17:27, 2 November 2008 (EST) |
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:Too speculative right now. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 17:30, 2 November 2008 (EST) |
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==So not even the writers?== |
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I know it could construed they were being sarcastic but the writer(s) did call it Red Lightning in the most recent CBR Interview--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 00:53, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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*Winner is Dman. Lightning is now canon. =]--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 01:34, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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**We'll probably never even see this ability again, but I'm sure they were going for electricity and just made it red to be different. There's no point having a page "Future Ando's ability". I say we add to the Lightning page, that in a possible future Ando had an ability like this, but red. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 03:29, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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== Time to combine articles. == |
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[http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18765 Red Lightning]. Anyone opposed?--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 12:38, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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:No. To quote Sylar... "I've been waiting a long time for this." <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 12:39, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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*I just think we should be consistent, regardless of color. If we have one [[Pyrokinesis]] article, (whether orange/Meredith or blue/Flint), we should be consistent with [[Lightning]] regardless of the color. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 11/11/2008 12:53 (EST)</small> |
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**I don't think Riddler was suggesting we create a page for Red lightning. I think he was just quoting the interview. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 12:55, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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** I'm opposed. First, Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite seem like they are joking, as is their ''m.o.'' They also talk about "Earthquake guy" right before. They never say that that's the name of Ando's power, or that it's a power at all. They say (again, probably jokingly) that that's the connection between everyone having powers and the world ending. If we knew that F_Ando's power was lightning, I would have no problem combining the articles. But until then, I don't think we should. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 12:57, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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*** See I knew someone would think the writers were joking. But I should point out that they were joking about the power that caused the earth to be destroyed. And how it wasn't earthquake guy but red lightning. I mean I don't see why they would be joking in the powers name, unless it was to mock people who thought it was "red" lightning. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 13:24, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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**** The way I read it, was that they were joking about both, but explicitly naming the latter in the process. --[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 13:30, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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**** I agree. We now have two sources close to the show calling it red lightning (Masi and Aron/Joe). And while Aron and Joe may not have been said it directly, they were obviously referring to FAndo's ability. At this point it seems pretty obvious that this power is indeed lightning. [[User:Seb.gwirionyn|Seb.gwirionyn]] 13:55, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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** You gotta understand that when they create powers, they don't have a name for them. They just say, "make it look like lightning, oh and red!". They don't think, 'is that even possible' - this is Heroes! Look at Angela's ability. They confirmed that her's was the ability Peter used to see Charles in the past! She kinda of has 2 abilities. So yes I'm sure they were going for lightning whether or not they were joking there. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 18:51, 11 November 2008 (EST) |
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* There is too much evidence that supports Red Lighting than something else. I think we should change it and if we get a name or someone else using the power and it being something other than red lighting we can change it then. |
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** I agree. Is there an admin around? Can we change this article? Please... [[User:Seb.gwirionyn|Seb.gwirionyn]] 21:16, 12 November 2008 (EST) |
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*** Are we going to make a different page for that power or are we going to consider it lightning? Red lightning is rare, but it is occurs naturally. Putting things at [[Lightning]] or creating a new power page? I think the info should be put in Lightning. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] 08:28, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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**** I agree. [[User:Seb.gwirionyn|Seb.gwirionyn]] 11:06, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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***** I don't agree. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 11:16, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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****** ... Damn. What about a separate page called Red Lightning or something similar? I'm so sick of "FAndo's ability". [[User:Seb.gwirionyn|Seb.gwirionyn]] 11:19, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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****** Why don't you agree? :/ Like the mystery poster said, there's just too much evidence that says that it's lightning... and considering there's just as much evidence pointing to lightning as there is for Future Ando's ability being synthetic (perhaps even more so), and that the latter has been noted as such on Future Ando's page, then I really think we should make the merge. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 12:30, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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****** It's clearly lightning, and here we have it still as "Future Ando's Ability." But then we have the same issue with "Shattering" where its just as speculative, and yet we named it. So just to be clear, where do we draw the line? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 12:55, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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****** What evidence do you have that's it's not lightning? A lightning blot is white, the color that is given off is caused by the surrounding environment. It can appear red. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 20:55, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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******* There is no evidence that it's not lightning, just as there is no evidence that it ''is'' lightning. There are good suggestions that it is, and I'd be willing to bet that it is, but that's still doesn't mean that it is. It's speculation to say that Elle and Future Ando have the same power. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:09, 13 November 2008 (EST) |
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******** What do you mean there's no evidence that it is lightning? On the contrary, there's a ''lot'' of evidence. Whether or not the evidence is conclusive is debatable, but there's ''definitely'' evidence pointing towards lightning. Besides visual and sound effects, the fact that the writers made a reference to "red lightning," which imho is most likely referring to the only thing in the ''Heroes'' universe at this moment that fits that description, Future Ando's ability, rather than a completely different element that is yet to be introduced. I really think that at this point, it's speculative to think it's ''not'' lightning. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 21:08, 14 November 2008 (EST) |
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********* Good, I agree it's speculative to think it's not lightning, just as it's speculative to think that it is. We simply don't know what it is, which is why "Future Ando's ability" is probably the best name--it doesn't assume that is is lightning and it doesn't assume that it's not lightning. Until we know for sure, we shouldn't speculate one way or the other. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:51, 14 November 2008 (EST) |
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**********I'm gonna have to go with Ryan on this one. Really, we know next to nothing about this power. For all we know, it could be some kind of red death ray beam. The only thing we can say for sure is that it is red energy. No matter how close it looks to lightning, we have no definite confirmation. [[User:Psilaq Remake|Psilaq Remake]] 18:31, 17 November 2008 (EST) |
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**** Somehow this power is starting to look to me like one of those spells in Harry Potter. They have one that makes red sparks that tortures a person, not kill them. That's what this could be, and Hiro could have been knocked unconscious not dead. Right now there are a number of things pointing to it not being lightning that are just as speculative as saying it is lightning, so I agree with Ryan as well. -- [[User:FlamingTomDude|FlamingTomDude]] 21:26, 17 November 2008 (EST) |
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* I just don't understand how we can't name it when we have two separate sources for it. Though actor interviews aren't considered useful here, they do provide some insight, and when the writers even acknowledge it, it should be solid.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 21:21, 20 November 2008 (EST) |
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To me, it looks more like "Crimson Lightning," Myotismon's ability in Digimon. You can see it at 50 seconds into this video: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqRJR8Q9M-Y Crimson Lightning] Either way I think that's a much better sounding name than "Red Lightning," it's accurate, and it seems to better fall under priority rule four. The phrase "crimson lightning" has been seen in other fictional works too, but in a descriptive sense (for instance, referring to The Flash). |
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* That's speculative, as it hasn't been referred to anywhere. Red lightning has two sources.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 12:46, 21 November 2008 (EST) |
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* If we do finally rename this article, it's not going to be red lightning. Nobody's volleying for it to be changed to "red lightning," just "lightning." Color should not be used to distinguish by name two varieties of the same ability. We're not calling Flint's ability blue pyrokinesis, are we? <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 20:30, 4 December 2008 (EST) |
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** Oh, no kidding. Sorry if my comment made it seem that's what I meant. Red ''Lightning'' has two sources, and thus we should use Lightning.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 20:49, 4 December 2008 (EST) |
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*** Oh no, I actually wasn't talking to you. xD I guess I bulleted my comment too far. I was actually talking to that mystery poster. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 20:53, 4 December 2008 (EST) |
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Alright. I concede defeat. >_> <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 21:46, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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==Electromagnetic Radiation.== |
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Ando's ability could be this, A Beam of electromagnetic radiation in a red frequency. |
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Does not cause heat, but could deliver tremendous concussive force. - Carlos A.k.A [[User:OmniScience|OmniScience]] |
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==Red Lightning== |
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I think that red lightning decribes the ability more then "lightning".--[[User:Gabriel Bishop|Gabriel Bishop]] 12:19, 3 December 2008 (EST)Gabriel Bishop |
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:Since when do we separate different kinds of the same ability by color? No, if it's lightning, then it'll be changed to lightning. The "red" is extremely extraneous. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 20:31, 4 December 2008 (EST) |
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oh i understand like flint's Pyrokinesis is blue while meredith's is orange.maybe like flints fire is hotter maybe red lightning has more currents. [[User:Gabriel Bishop|Gabriel Bishop]] 11:08, 6 December 2008 (EST) Gabriel Bishop |
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Maybe, some upper atmosphere lightnings generate more electricity and are red, but I read elsewhere that the red color has to do with the composition of the air at high altitudes and the humidity. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 12:13, 6 December 2008 (EST) |
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oh kk :)[[User:Gabriel Bishop|Gabriel Bishop]] 13:51, 6 December 2008 (EST) Gabriel Bishop |
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* Boy am I glad we didn't move this to "lightning" or "red lightning" or "electric manipulation" or anything like that. Wow, who knew! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:12, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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== In the coming episodes... == |
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*With a bit of luck, we will get some clarification on this in the next few episodes. It seems that [[Ando]] is going to be off to [[Pinehearst]]. So hopefully, with Mohinder on-hand, we might get an actual name.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 04:34, 11 December 2008 (EST) |
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== On the (slightly) Light(er) Side == |
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*Maybe it's Accelerated Probability? --[[User:UrNoob|Max]]01:02, 12 December 2008 (EST) |
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== This be the same as.. == |
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*Pauline Hawkin's ability? --[[User:DarkPhoenix|DarkPhoenix]] 21:44, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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**I realized that JUST after I moved it. It certainly has the same effects. Maybe merge [[ability augmentation]] into this page, since it's a canon name? <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 22:07, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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**Someone's created [[Amplification]] - {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 22:11, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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***So, are we using this, or [[Ability augmentation]]? I'd prefer augmentation. - {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 22:21, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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****Supercharger is canon. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 22:23, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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**** Ability augmentation is not accurate. Augment means to add to. If anything it'd be more like "ability amplification". However since "supercharger" is currently a canonical term that was used when talking about it "ability supercharger" is probably the best term for now barring anything more explicit. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:39, 15 December 2008 (EST)) |
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***** Ability ''supercharg'''ing'''''. Ando is a supercharger. He can supercharge, and when he does so, he is supercharging. This isn't labeled like "Puppet master", so we can use the correct wording.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 23:49, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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****** I agree with Riddler, they didn't explicitly name the ability as "ability supercharger" so I don't see why we can't use the general form, "ability supercharging", instead.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:58, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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I think supercharging sounds slang and unofficial, like calling [[Daphne]]'s ability "fast running". I personally think something like "ability enhancement", "ability extension", "ability amplification" , "ability intensifcation", or even "ability manipulation" would sound better. - {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 00:41, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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* I like Ability Supercharger or Supercharging, and it's used in canon. --[[User:Powermimic|Powermimic]] 00:56, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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*Lame name, damn canon. --''[[User:Matchu|Matchu]]'' 00:58, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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**Again, it's a ''description'', not a name. Just like Daphne calls herself a "speedster", Ando is called a "supercharger". And we don't call Daphne's power "speeding" or "speedstering" or anything. A MUCH better name would be "ability amplification". --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 09:29, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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== New Image == |
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* We need an image of Ando and Daphne teleporting back. That's the best visual representation of this ability. --[[User:DarkPhoenix|DarkPhoenix]] 22:35, 15 December 2008 (EST) |
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** Agreed. Especially the shot where he completely envelops Daphne. I think that'd be ideal. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:40, 15 December 2008 (EST)) |
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==Ability augmentation== |
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The page for ability augmentation seems to have been erased and replaced with only a redirect. Would an administrator please restore the history so we can consider what to and not to add to this page? Thanks.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:01, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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* <grumble> I'm a little lost. I did what I thought was restoring the page. It said "If you restore the page, all revisions will be restored to the history. If a new page with the same name has been created since the deletion, the restored revisions will appear in the prior history. Also note that restrictions on file revisions are lost upon restoration." Okay. But so now I don't see where the history is. If you start [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Ability_augmentation&diff=prev&oldid=182010 here], you can scroll through and see the diffs for the history, up to [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Ability_augmentation&diff=prev&oldid=250824 the last one before it was made into a redirect]. If anybody can figure out where the history is, I'd really like to know. </grumble> -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 02:22, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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** <sigh> Nevermind. It came back after a bit of time. [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Ability_augmentation&action=history Here it is]. Maybe it's a [[help:caching|caching]] thing? Dunno. Oh well! </sigh> -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 02:24, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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*** Cool, thanks for the quick restore. Could be caching thing and/or it might just be that the server requires some process time to rebuild the information from the older version of the file.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:31, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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**** No problem. In the future, keep in mind that it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to check every edit to the wiki. I gave up somewhere around ''[[Five Years Gone]]'', and I gave up scrolling through ever edit summary on the recent changes some time this season. If there's something you'd like restored or deleted, feel free to drop me a note on my talk page. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 02:45, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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**** User:Shadowulf1 09:27, 16 December 2008 (EST) why was this ability changed from ability augmentation; it was a great page, it made sense and all. just because he said he can supercharge abilities, that doesn't mean you should change the name of the power... Don't have to be so literal in ability naming |
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== So Ando's ability lets him... == |
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be the ultimate sidekick? --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 05:56, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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* Exactly. :X--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 07:21, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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== So this begs the question... == |
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1. What does this power do to normal humans? |
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2. How does this kill Hiro in the exposed future? --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 09:30, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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The only offensive use of this ability I can think off is to accelerate someone's metabolism to the point it overworks and the person crashes, but that's highly speculative. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:33, 16 December 2008 (EST) |
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User:Shadowulf1 10:17, 16 December 2008 (EST) I don't think it kills Hiro; I think he saw being zapped as being a bad thing, when in fact Ando may have jumpstarted his powers. |
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