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Sections for ''Five Years Gone'' have been added and removed multiple times on the pages of most of the character who have future versions. I think we should keep the ''Five Years Gone'' section with "<nowiki>See [[Character (future)]]</nowiki>". This would make it so as you are going through the history, you can find the the information about them in episodic order (the see also is hard to find, it should be kept though). |
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It will also make it so people don't keep adding their future histories. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 13:41, 3 May 2007 (EDT) |
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==Name Change== |
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The name of this episode changed to "Five Years Gone" (http://www.herosite.net/) |
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* It's discussed on the Talk:Spoiler:String Theory page--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 16:52, 12 April 2007 (EDT) |
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* I think the best way to handle them is going to be to add articles for those who actually appear as characters and add Notes to the current articles for those who are merely mentioned, but that's just me.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 22:43, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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**I agree. There's enough to make an article for each of the [[:Category:Future Characters|Future Characters]]. Good idea about the Notes. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 23:14, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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*** I added a Note to [[Nathan Petrelli]]. He should be the worst of them, and it seems sufficient to me. In the meantime, I copied some edits others made into [[Future Sylar]] and [[Future Peter]], and I like the way they're coming along, too.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:20, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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Who was the woman behind Mr. Bennett's desk in this episode? It looked like Angela Petrelli to me but the more I think about it, it could be Hana as well.--[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 23:10, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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* That was Hana. She was in the earlier scene with the little boy.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:11, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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Well now I just want to die. Why Hana, Why!? :'-( --[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 23:21, 30 April 2007 (EDT) |
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*After watching this episode a second time, the best I can figure is we are watching some kind of mashup of the timelines when Claire is and isn't killed by Sylar. Peter's scar should be gone if Claire was saved, and Future Hiro should not be surprised that our Hiro travels back in time if he had already experienced it. However, Claire is still alive. Nikki implies that D.L. died during the bomb, but Hiro says he turned D.L. over to Bennett, who handed him over to SylarasNathan. Ug. Maybe I'm just thinking about this too hard... but there are a lot of timeline holes in this episode. Awesome o watch though anyway. --[[User:Fcphantom|Fcphantom]] 00:18, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**Was Niki implying that D.L. died in the explosion? When Peter tells her he was the bomb, he only mentions Micah. I think that she knows D.L. died, though doesn't know the real truth (Sylar giving him the slice and dice). I dunno; this episode gives me headaches. :-) --[[User:ZyberGoat|ZyberGoat]] 12:52, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** It's all one coherent possible future timeline. Alright to clear it up: Claire didn't die (until later in the ep at least, obviously). Peter exploded, but Sylar used Candace's power to fool the others into thinking it was Sylar himself. Thus Future Hiro had actually stabbed Peter thinking him to be Sylar. When Peter regenerated the wound, Future Hiro had presumed Sylar had stolen Claire's regeneration. Thus, "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World," (a presumption by Alternate Future Hiro) is actually incorrect. Saving Claire did not prevent Sylar from using Candace's power to survive. Future Peter's scar is due to some other unexplained factor. It's not clear exactly how Micah or D.L. died, or whether Nikki and Peter's perception of how it happened is correct. But Future Sylar demonstrates that he did steal D.L.'s phasing. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 02:52, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** Peter says "I killed Micah." But I'm wondering if he's only assuming he did. Peter can't possibly know everyone he killed, only perhaps thos who were within visual range at the time he goes off. So in order for him to know this, we have to accept that Micah was there without Nikki/Jessica or D.L., which is possible since he was last seen with Linderman... but was Linderman taking Micah to NY or Las Vegas? Seems like a bit of a stretch to put them in NY during an catastrophic event that Linderman knows quite well is imminent.--[[User:Joedu|Joedu]] 22:44, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**** Interesting theory, but I don't think that's the case. In the original future (Future Hiro's), Sylar really was the bomb, but he regenerated because he had Claire's power. In the future that Hiro and Ando jump into, though, Peter became the bomb, and Nathan pawned the disaster on Sylar (which likely infuriated him, leading him to kill Nathan and take his place). I think that when Future Hiro brought specials to Bennet, Bennet turned over the "dangerous ones" to Matt, who in turn sent them to the president (Sylar-as-Nathan), who then killed them. But there's nothing proving that Sylar took Candace's power before the explosion. --[[User:ZyberGoat|ZyberGoat]] 12:52, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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***** Hmm.. I think the problem with that explanation is that it's creating too many separate future lines (of course, the fact that they created an interloper Future Hiro intruding into the present started that all in the first place but..). If what you say is the case, then we would have two different future Hiros -- the original one who intruded and spoke with Peter on the subway, and a new one (who looks exactly the same) that is from an alteration of Future Hiro's timeline. I think this -- creating multiple slight variations of futures -- is one of the reasons everyone is giving themselves so many headaches. I put forward the above explanation as a simpler one that doesn't require two slightly different future timelines. Nothing establishes that Future Sylar was ever the exploding man in the Future timeline or that he ever killed Claire (prior to the explosion). This has been a working assumption by viewers as the simplest explanation, and based on Future Hiro's belief of what happened. But Future Hiro has been shown to have been completely unaware of Sylar's survival, as were all the other future heroes. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 13:31, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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****** There would not necessarily be more then one [[future Hiro]], instead of creating a new [[possible future]], it could be changing it (supported by the changes made by [[Hiro]] trying to save [[Charlie]]) like in the movie [[wikipedia:Frequency (film)|Frequency]]. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 14:32, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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****Given that we could assume that Linderman is using Micah to rig the elections after Hana stuffed his previous plans, It seems quite plausible that Micah be in NY so soon after the elections. [[User:unfalln|unfalln]] 13:04, 2 May 2007 (AEST) |
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* Apparently, the writers have a reason why Future Peter has the scar despite having Claire's power. They talk in an interview (don't recall which) about how NBC keeps giving them grief about it, but they assure them there's a reason for it.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 00:27, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**My thought on this is that at some point, Hiro will impale Peter across the face with the sword, and it will knock Peter unconscious. Peter can empathetically mimic Claires healing ability, but he has to be conscious to think about it to get it to work; therefore he can't auto-heal like she can without thinking about it. While he is unconscious, and before he bleeds-out, someone will heal Peter's face...either cauterizing it with heat, or perhaps a healer other than Peter will close the wound, leaving the scar. When Peter wakes up, he has been healed by someone else, and doesn't really have anything to heal from, so the scar remains. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/1/2007 11:43 (EST)</small> |
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***I've also heard a theory that Molly Walker's power--not yet emerged in ''Don't Look Back''--is the ability to block powers (like the Haitian, but more complete), and that she's present when Peter gets cut.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 11:59, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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****That would be frickin' awesome! I mean, bad-ass power, but bestowing it on an innocent-looking girl? That's got showdown written all over it. --[[User:ZyberGoat|ZyberGoat]] 12:54, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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***** It would explain why she's the only one who can stop Sylar. But it would be more bad-ass if her power was to turn TV characters into other characters played by the same actor, and she turned Sylar into Sasan from ''So NoTORIous'', and that's how they defeat him. Then she could turn Angela into a Klingon and Kaito into Sulu and they could slug it out and ... what was I saying?--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 13:09, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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******Okay, since everyone else seems to be weighing in on the whole altered timelines debate, I guess I might as well toss my two cents in. While there is certainly one major difference in that Claire is still alive after Hiro's "Save the cheerleader" message, I am not convinced that anything else has changed. For example, everyone is assuming that Sylar was originally the source of the explosion. The only reason we "know" that is because future Hiro says so. However, unless he watched him explode, which I find to be a bit unlikely, the only way he would know would be the official government story that it was Sylar, which could have always been a government conver-up to protect Peter. So, while that's pretty much just conjecture, I still think there is enough room for doubt regarding the subject to avoid putting it down as a definite change in the timeline. [[User:Joser Kyind|Joser Kyind]] 16:55, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*******Why is it such a problem to think about alternate timelines? the timeline we landed in for this episode is simply because Claire had been saved (therefore Sylar didn't get regen powers) but Hiro, as he had transported to the future, hadn't yet stabbed Sylar. My opinions are a bit wavering on how the bomb is stopped after all this, but remembering back to Peter's dream I would suspect that Sylar already had Candice's powers and was acting like Nathan (ie. the one that walks over to talk to Peter while he's about to explode, perhaps using some sort of power amplification or something). On another note, I find it easier to understand that they could stop the bomb now that Hiro has Ando's death as motivation instead of the bomb itself. [[User:unfalln|unfalln]] 11:57, 2 May 2007 (AEST) |
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******** Given that Peter's dream includes (dead) Isaac and (dead) Simone (to say nothing of Cop Matt and Cheerleader Claire), I can't for the life of me figure out why people are so worried about reconciling it with reality. Sometimes a dream is just a dream; not every element of it has to be literally true, even if it ''did'' warn Peter that he's potentially the cause of the explosion.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 14:00, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** A small point, but Peter can clearly use his healing when unconscious. After all, he managed to recover from being 'dead'. --[[User:Havoc|Havoc]] 14:57, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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* So my Tivo cut off right after "To Be Continued" came up. Does anybody have the closing credits? We need names or descriptions for a couple minor characters (there aren't many with speaking/significant parts ... the little boy and his family at Primatech and the bartender at Niki's casino are the only ones that come to mind off the top of my head.)--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 01:05, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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** OK, the family of the evolved human boy is credited as mom, dad, and son. Not too helpful. We should probably list them under their assumed names then (Mr. and Mrs. Crane -- not sure what to call the kid.)--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 10:24, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** Hopefully better than [[List of evolved humans|red dot boy]]--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 10:26, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**** I suppose we could call him "young evolved human", but that might be too vague. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 10:35, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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***** "Crane boy" sounds a bit like a super hero name (he should team up with Tiger Lass for a kung-fu book), but it's probably our best choice. |
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****** If the closing credits said "mom, dad, and son" where are you guys getting the "Mr & Mrs Crane" from? While 'red-dot boy' may sound unspecific and a little silly, it is probably the most easily recognizable name for him that the majority of people would be able to associate him to. For 'deoxygenation boy' however, wouldn't 'middleschool boy from Santa Cruz' be specific enough until more is revealed later? <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/1/2007 11:48 (EST)</small> |
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******* Hana tells them their new identities: they will be the Cranes, from Boise, Idaho. As for the middle school boy, I doubt he merits mention anywhere but the episode article. He doesn't appear, is barely mentioned, and exists five years in the future.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 11:56, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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******** However, the fact that he is an evolved human with a new power (deoxygenation), makes him noteworthy. Since he is middleschool, he is also at least 12 years old, which means regardless of the 5yr-timelines, he is at least 7 years old in the present-timeline....therefore he and his power is confirmed to exist; regardless of when it is first manifested in whatever timeline we endup with. We should add a new power for deoxygenation to the Powers page, and we should keep him on the list of evolved humans. He is confirmed; even though there is little info on him. Had he been given a firstname, he would have more details and info specifically about him than 'David'. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/1/2007 12:05 (EST)</small> |
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********* That's fine. He certainly doesn't need an article at this point, though. In any case, the list needs to note that he's an evolved human in a future timeline; for all we know, in the final timeline he could die before he manifests powers, or live his entire life and never manifest his power.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 12:12, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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********* One thing he does give us, though, is the revealing of a new power. Even if he doesn't manifest it in whatever timeline we end up in, and it is never seen again, the power itself has been revealed as a power of evolved humans. We may find, with this multi-timeline stuff going on, and with more and more powered people showing up (with little screentime and development) that we simply need to start a new Notes Section on the Powers page, to have a quick comment documenting it and that would be all, until it becomes fully-realized and revealed in a more primary character (one that deserves their own article). I'll put one one other, and see what you think. <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 05/1/2007 12:17 (EST)</small> |
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Ok, so is it safe to assume the boy who suffocated his middle school and the kid Mr. Bennet had are the same person? What would we call his power? [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 09:47, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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* No, it's not safe to assume that.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 10:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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== Candace, DL and Molly == |
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When Hiro asks Bennet for these people, I think he's referring to their blood samples since Sylar had already killed DL and Candace. So does that mean he also killed Molly?--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 11:16, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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* Hiro says "and they'll all be safe when we succeed". I think he's referring to the people, and just doesn't realize that they're dead. Incidentally, there's something a bit sinister about this: in his scene with Matt, Bennet discusses their arrangement as one where he gives Matt the "dangerous" ones and Matt gives him the "harmless" ones, so there's a good chance that Bennet turned D.L. and Candace at least over to Matt; they'd then be ripe for Sylar-as-Nathan to eat. As to whether Molly is also dead, I don't think we can possibly know.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 11:33, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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** Remember that Future Hiro's memories come from the original Dark Future timeline, and not the one shown in the episode. In the original timeline, it may be that D.L. and Candace are still alive, Sylar never took their powers, never became President, but there is no way for us to know. Hiro doesn't realize things have changed because they changed while he was in the past, and are still cosmetically similar when he returns. In any event, he is an unreliable narrator in this episode, anything he believes may not be true any longer since he changed the past. I realize I'm complaining about this all over the place, but that's because I want to make sure people understand it. [[User:Gregorus|Gregorus]] 12:24, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** Future Sylar had already killed Candace before the explosion. Future Bennet and Future Matt's arrangement are clearly due to the political divide of their time which are products after the future presidential election. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 12:34, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**** How do we know he killed Candace before the explosion? We don't even know how long he's been impersonating Nathan.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 12:46, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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***** Future Hiro said Sylar was able to regenerate from the stab, delivered just prior to the explosion, yet without Claire's regeneration (she lives past the explosion). Future Hiro actually stabbed Peter, who was disguised by Sylar using Candace's power. Yes, I am arguing by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance| lack of imagination] here (the writers could write a more complex explanation), but it seems a fairly straightforward implication. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 13:12, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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****** Except that Future Hiro remembers rescuing her after the explosion. That might have changed if there are two timelines, but I doubt he'd just have a random memory of something that didn't happen.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 14:29, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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******* Hmm.. think I need to rewatch the ep sometime, since I missed some of the dialogue. Damn the creators, haha. By the time we figure out any of this stuff to reach any consensus, it'll probably be ep 23 and the questions will be all be answered. I just hope the writers haven't overcomplicated the plot beyond their own ability to wind it all up. =) --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 16:35, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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******* Maybe Hiro 'rescued' Sylar, disguised as Candace. --[[User:Havoc|Havoc]] 14:56, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*** While it's certainly good to remember that Future Hiro's memories may not match the new timeline he's created, it's also not the case that they're automatically wrong. He still knew Niki and Peter, and where to find them, for example. Many events seem to have occurred the same way. In this case, I think if he ''hadn't'' been responsible for rescuing Molly, D.L., and Candace, then Mr. Bennet would have said so when Hiro asked him to contact them. "WTF they're dead and you never rescued them" is not the same as "I can't contact them because they're in hiding." So it seems likely that this is one of those cases where Future Hiro's memory jives with the revised timeline: he still rescued Candace, D.L., and Molly and turned them over to Bennet. D.L. and Candace were subsequently killed; Future Hiro doesn't know it, and if Bennet does, he's not letting on.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 12:46, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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== String Theory graph updated == |
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Hi. Since episode 1x19 I am building a String Theory graph trying to cover all causality relationships in Heroes episodes and Graphic novels. It is available at my [http://fmobus.wait4.org/2007/05/02/now-the-hard-part/ website]. Episode 1x19 was quite easy, but 1x20 f**d all up. If anyone wants to help, please contact me. ktnxbye [[User:Fmobus|Fmobus]] 21:19, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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== Oval Office == |
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on the commentairy the actors said it wasn't from the west wing --[[User:Yamiangie|angie]] 22:50, 1 May 2007 (EDT) |
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:The Director's Blog by Greg Beeman acknowledges that it is indeed the West Wing's Oval Office - It had been disassembled and placed in storage, so the crew had to fly it to the set and re-build it. [[User:Ultraexactzz|Ultraexactzz]] 07:40, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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== Parkman == |
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Can't seem to find the answer anywhere. Regarding Parkman's mindreading abilities, why couldn't he read Sylar/Nathan's mind and find out he isn't actually Nathan and is in fact Sylar? [[User:Dc|Dc]] 22:00, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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* This this is like some of the other issues with the timeline mashup above. I'd say it all falls under a number of questions that were either not addressed, or not addressed unambiguously enough to prevent confusion and dispute. What is the explanation for the Haitian -- who has, thus far, demonstrated a fairly strong moral compass (enough to be concerned more for some sense of the greater good, even if a personal one, to protect Claire and to question the authority/justice of those he works for) -- siding with the president's cause to eliminate all of his fellow evolved humans? I suppose it's possible that Parkman can only "hear" what the subject is currently thinking but doesn't let him simply access a subject's complete memory. When Parkman got Claire's location out of Bennet, he forcibly put forth the question as if to induce Bennet into thinking the answer. Unfortunately, Bennet didn't have his wits about him enough to think in Japanese that time or something. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 22:23, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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== Summary Error == |
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The summary for this episode states Hiro learns what he must do to stop the bomb. I don't think this is true. He learned that he will have the opportunity to kill Sylar, but in the current timeline, Peter is the one who explodes. It's unclear to me how killing Sylar will prevent Peter from going nuclear. -- [[User:Johnc|Johnc]] 23:05, 2 May 2007 (EDT) |
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==Haitian== |
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Since the Haitian can cancel out ''all'' powers, wouldn't 'Nathan' have to make sure to stay away from him? I'd expect that it would be rather dangerous having someone like him on the team. Also, how would he ever convince the Haitian to work for him so loyally, if he can't even talk to him face to face? |
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Revision as of 17:41, 3 May 2007
Sections for Five Years Gone have been added and removed multiple times on the pages of most of the character who have future versions. I think we should keep the Five Years Gone section with "See [[Character (future)]]". This would make it so as you are going through the history, you can find the the information about them in episodic order (the see also is hard to find, it should be kept though). It will also make it so people don't keep adding their future histories. -Lөvөl 13:41, 3 May 2007 (EDT)