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http://i38.tinypic.com/15pkc2f.jpg [[User:Terrifried|Terrifried]] 05:10, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
http://i38.tinypic.com/15pkc2f.jpg [[User:Terrifried|Terrifried]] 05:10, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::Okay, so that's definitely Arthur on the upper left... Knox in the bottom left... That's probably Flint in the bottom right... is the person in the upper right Sylar? That'd be kind of disappointing if it was. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 07:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::Okay, so that's definitely Arthur on the upper left... Knox in the bottom left... That's probably Flint in the bottom right... is the person in the upper right Sylar? That'd be kind of disappointing if it was. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 07:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
Here's the screenshot: [[Image:Usutu_Villains.jpg|100pxx100px]]
Here's the screenshot: [[:Image:Four villains.jpg]]
:::I don't think that is Sylar, but it could be Peter.  The individual in the lower right corner also looks a little like Doyle. --[[User:Falcomadol|Falcomadol]] 11:04, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
:::I don't think that is Sylar, but it could be Peter.  The individual in the lower right corner also looks a little like Doyle. --[[User:Falcomadol|Falcomadol]] 11:04, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::::How is that Doyle? That guy's not as gross or... creepy looking as Doyle. Plus, Doyle's out of commission and Flint's now with the villains. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 11:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::::How is that Doyle? That guy's not as gross or... creepy looking as Doyle. Plus, Doyle's out of commission and Flint's now with the villains. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 11:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::::It's probably not Peter. The differences to the image where he hugs Arthur are too big. And I think the discussion should be on the image's discussion page. --[[User:Tordmor|Tordmor]] 12:00, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
::::It's probably not Peter. The differences to the image where he hugs Arthur are too big. And I think the discussion should be on the image's discussion page. --[[User:Tordmor|Tordmor]] 12:00, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
: I think the top right may be a villain we haven't met yet.  The other three seem pretty clearcut (to me) as Arthur, Knox, and Flint. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 15:01, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
:Bottom right looks like Maury to me. - [[User:Chardish|Chardish]] 16:58, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
::I was just going to say the same thing. Huh. So is it Maury or Flint now? - [[User:Underfate|Underfate]] 14:51, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
:Top right looks like it could be Carlos Mendez, the supposedly dead father of Issac. Just something to think about --[[User:OprahDust|OprahDust]] 17:55, 24 October 2008 (EDT)


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I guess they got what they wanted. D:
I guess they got what they wanted. D:
I don't think Peter will ever reach his old level of power again. Makes me a sad panda. [[User:GabrielPetrelli|GabrielPetrelli]] 09:53, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
I don't think Peter will ever reach his old level of power again. Makes me a sad panda. [[User:GabrielPetrelli|GabrielPetrelli]] 09:53, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
* I think it also would be a safe assumption that [[Peter's scar|something]] happens to Peter's face in the near future... --[[User:Yamawhata?|Yamawhata?]] 17:47, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
** Agreed. This sets up his scar incident quite well. I'm hoping they eventually give him back Empathic Mimicry. D:  [[User:GabrielPetrelli|GabrielPetrelli]] 19:28, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
*** They'd have to - every future that he has the scar in, he has his powers (unless he get them all injected). --[[User:Yamawhata?|Yamawhata?]] 15:43, 25 October 2008 (EDT)


== Peter's powers ==
== Peter's powers ==
I'm noticing that people are making different edits about whether or not Peter's powers are all drained. His father does say "I have your (Peter's) powers" and shows his skill of using lightning. Are we going to consider his father's word cannon or just what he demonstrated to him? --&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 80%; background-color: #FF69B4; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #000000;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:10px;">[[User:Pinkkeith|<font color=#000000>'''PinkKeith'''</font>]]</span> <font color=#FF69B4>▼</font><span style="font-size: 80%; background-color: #000000; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #FF8640;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:10px;">{{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Pinkkeith|<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Pinkkeith&action=edit&section=new <font color=#FF69B4>'''(new comment)'''</font>]</font></span> | [[User talk:Pinkkeith|<font color=#FF69B4>'''(talk)'''</font>]]}}</span><font color=#FF69B4>▼</font> 11:15, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm noticing that people are making different edits about whether or not Peter's powers are all drained. His father does say "I have your (Peter's) powers" and shows his skill of using lightning. Are we going to consider his father's word cannon or just what he demonstrated to him? --&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 80%; background-color: #FF69B4; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #000000;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:10px;">[[User:Pinkkeith|<font color=#000000>'''PinkKeith'''</font>]]</span> <font color=#FF69B4>▼</font><span style="font-size: 80%; background-color: #000000; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; border: 1px solid #FF8640;padding: 2px; -moz-border-radius:10px;">{{#ifeq:{{PAGENAME}}|Pinkkeith|<span class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=User_talk:Pinkkeith&action=edit&section=new <font color=#FF69B4>'''(new comment)'''</font>]</font></span> | [[User talk:Pinkkeith|<font color=#FF69B4>'''(talk)'''</font>]]}}</span><font color=#FF69B4>▼</font> 11:15, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
I thought it would be that his father stole peters powers but not his mimicry. like when chandra tests sylar in the past he doesnt discover any powers? I think peter has to go on a quest, kinda like sylar does in season 2, to gain powers to beat his father. i think he'll find usutu, since hes a yoda-esque character. [[User:345tom|345tom]] 16:03, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
:If Arthur didn't steal Peter's mimicry, than Peter would instantly re-absorb all of his powers back from Arthur (along with Arthur's own power) and would've been able to conjure that lightning like he tried to. The fact that he couldn't must mean that he no longer has his own mimicry either. --[[User:Maelwys|Maelwys]] 11:49, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
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I have no idea how to manually fix it so I will bring it to your attention here. Peter's name isn't under character appearances for this episode.--[[User:Halfxwitted|Halfxwitted]] 01:42, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
* Looks correct now, thanks. --[[User:Denali|Denali]] 10:20, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
** Thanks. I have him on the notes I was taking during the episode, but I must have just skipped over him by accident. Thanks for fixing it up for me! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:36, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
== Hiro and Ando ==
*Anyone else think that the Hiro and Ando thing was an unbelievable cop-out? I couldn't believe they'd do something so ridiculous.... good episode, though.--{{User:Lost Soul/sig}} 16:19, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
** I didn't think it was a cop-out, but I do think it was tremendously irresponsible of Hiro to put an actual sword in place of a toy one at the store.  Someone could get seriously hurt!  ;)  --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 07:11, 30 November 2008 (EST)
***Hiro may have had his moments, but I always considered him not to be the smartest crayon in the box. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:24, 30 November 2008 (EST)

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AURA ABSORPTION!!

...Aura absorption? D: Wow anyway, exciting episode. I kind of missed what happened to Adam though... is he dead? Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:01, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Looked like Aura absorption to me too. Anyway, Arthur stole Adam's power, apparently causing him to age 400 years and die :( --Aburu 22:03, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Aura absorption involves killing the person, only Adam died and that seems to be because of aging. It is ability theft, though. Also, oh my, what an episode.--Riddler 22:04, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
      • Well we'll get the technicalities sorted out eventually... And poor Adam... wow, I regret missing that aging part... IMAGES PL0X. xD Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:05, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
      • Also was Elle in this episode? I'm not sure if I missed her. Because one of the promos had her in it but I didn't see her at all, and if she was in the first half hour, most of which I missed, then that seems kind of odd to have her only in that segment... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:07, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
        • No, she wasn't. Also, I think it may be a more perfected form of Aura Absorption. --Aburu 22:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
          • Pssh. At the Elle part. Got dang it. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:09, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Peter's powerless, oh my. He stands no chance when he's against his own abilities... without his own abilities. JackOfBloodyHearts 22:10, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
  • I agree with Riddler because it says you have to kill the person in order to take the ability for aura absorption. It should be called Ability Theft
    • There do exist variations of powers. Take Niki's and Knox's abilities, for example... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:35, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
  • For now any references must be Arthur's ability until we're given an official name for it or there's consensus as to what name it should have. See Talk:Arthur's ability for any discussion on the ability's name. (Admin 22:32, 20 October 2008 (EDT))
    • I agree, I'm just theorizing for now. :P Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:35, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Indeed, what an episode, left me half-disappointed, half-wowed. BTW, Heroes Interactive:Dying of the Light is up now. I'm heading off for the night. Did we see auras through Arthur's eyes? If not, I'd hesitate to call it that and would just make it as Arthur's ability for now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:09, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Treatment of villains

I hated how they ended things with Adam, another great villain taken out like nothing (Canfield could've been great, gone. Adam WAS great, could've been more great, gone). However, I liked Doyle's storyline, think it ended appropriately. He's sick. Speaking of villains, who all was painted around the Pinehearst logo that Usutsu drew? JackOfBloodyHearts 22:10, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

I'm wondering that too. It seemed like the man on the upper left... was a Two Face type character? Not entirely sure. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:12, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure I saw Mohinder. Therequiembellishere 22:13, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
That would make sense. Like Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde or Gabriel Gray/Sylar. But I really hope they don't make him into a villain. :/ Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 22:15, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm sure that Arthur was the upper lefthand corner. Jrrenola 22:20, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
Agreed about Canfield. Here's a link to a screencap, I don't know how to upload these things. it looks like arthur in the top left, knox on the bottom left, and possibly maury or flint in on the bottom right

http://i38.tinypic.com/15pkc2f.jpg Terrifried 05:10, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Okay, so that's definitely Arthur on the upper left... Knox in the bottom left... That's probably Flint in the bottom right... is the person in the upper right Sylar? That'd be kind of disappointing if it was. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 07:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Here's the screenshot: Image:Four villains.jpg

I don't think that is Sylar, but it could be Peter. The individual in the lower right corner also looks a little like Doyle. --Falcomadol 11:04, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
How is that Doyle? That guy's not as gross or... creepy looking as Doyle. Plus, Doyle's out of commission and Flint's now with the villains. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 11:52, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
It's probably not Peter. The differences to the image where he hugs Arthur are too big. And I think the discussion should be on the image's discussion page. --Tordmor 12:00, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
I think the top right may be a villain we haven't met yet. The other three seem pretty clearcut (to me) as Arthur, Knox, and Flint. --Stevehim 15:01, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
Bottom right looks like Maury to me. - Chardish 16:58, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
I was just going to say the same thing. Huh. So is it Maury or Flint now? - Underfate 14:51, 23 October 2008 (EDT)
Top right looks like it could be Carlos Mendez, the supposedly dead father of Issac. Just something to think about --OprahDust 17:55, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

That funky Petrelli family

Interesting how Arthur, Peter, and Gabriel all have similar abilities (hereditary?) Arthur can steal the ability using physical contact without necessarily killing the owner (but the owner loses the ability). Gabriel can steal the ability through physical contact, although it most often kills the owner. Peter can absorb the ability without taking it from the owner or killing the owner. Jrrenola 22:26, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

  • yeah, and do u remember claude saying to peter "ohh so you are one of those..."?¿ :P great! --cookie 01:27, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Caps request list

I'm ready and able to do caps this morning, put your requests here please :D --Falcomadol 09:36, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

Nerfing Peter

From [[1]]:
"...Do you ever wish you would have made him (Peter) less powerful, and that you could teleport back to let yourself know what you were getting into?

Joe Pokaski & Aron Coleite: We wish that all the time..."

I guess they got what they wanted. D: I don't think Peter will ever reach his old level of power again. Makes me a sad panda. GabrielPetrelli 09:53, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

  • I think it also would be a safe assumption that something happens to Peter's face in the near future... --Yamawhata? 17:47, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Agreed. This sets up his scar incident quite well. I'm hoping they eventually give him back Empathic Mimicry. D: GabrielPetrelli 19:28, 21 October 2008 (EDT)
      • They'd have to - every future that he has the scar in, he has his powers (unless he get them all injected). --Yamawhata? 15:43, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

Peter's powers

I'm noticing that people are making different edits about whether or not Peter's powers are all drained. His father does say "I have your (Peter's) powers" and shows his skill of using lightning. Are we going to consider his father's word cannon or just what he demonstrated to him? --  PinkKeith (talk) 11:15, 21 October 2008 (EDT)

I thought it would be that his father stole peters powers but not his mimicry. like when chandra tests sylar in the past he doesnt discover any powers? I think peter has to go on a quest, kinda like sylar does in season 2, to gain powers to beat his father. i think he'll find usutu, since hes a yoda-esque character. 345tom 16:03, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

If Arthur didn't steal Peter's mimicry, than Peter would instantly re-absorb all of his powers back from Arthur (along with Arthur's own power) and would've been able to conjure that lightning like he tried to. The fact that he couldn't must mean that he no longer has his own mimicry either. --Maelwys 11:49, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

character appearance

I have no idea how to manually fix it so I will bring it to your attention here. Peter's name isn't under character appearances for this episode.--Halfxwitted 01:42, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Looks correct now, thanks. --Denali 10:20, 24 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Thanks. I have him on the notes I was taking during the episode, but I must have just skipped over him by accident. Thanks for fixing it up for me! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 10:36, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

Hiro and Ando

  • Anyone else think that the Hiro and Ando thing was an unbelievable cop-out? I couldn't believe they'd do something so ridiculous.... good episode, though.--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  16:19, 31 October 2008 (EDT)
    • I didn't think it was a cop-out, but I do think it was tremendously irresponsible of Hiro to put an actual sword in place of a toy one at the store. Someone could get seriously hurt!  ;) --Stevehim 07:11, 30 November 2008 (EST)
      • Hiro may have had his moments, but I always considered him not to be the smartest crayon in the box. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:24, 30 November 2008 (EST)