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The video of "A New Target: Damen Peak" is available at: http://www.nbc.com/heroes-reborn/video/a-new-target-damen-peak/2939545?snid=248021&onid=248021#vc248021=1 --[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:14, 2 December 2015 (EST)
The video of "A New Target: Damen Peak" is available at: http://www.nbc.com/heroes-reborn/video/a-new-target-damen-peak/2939545?snid=248021&onid=248021#vc248021=1 --[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:14, 2 December 2015 (EST)
* Joanne says, "Word on the street is that Damen is an evo gifted with the power of persuasion." She never says that he has the ability of belief induction, or even something along the lines of "able to induce belief in others". We use what we are given, which is that Damen has the power of persuasion. That's where he should be until we learn more. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:47, 2 December 2015 (EST)
* Joanne says, "Word on the street is that Damen is an evo gifted with the power of persuasion." She never says that he has the ability of belief induction, or even something along the lines of "able to induce belief in others". We use what we are given, which is that Damen has the power of persuasion. That's where he should be until we learn more. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:47, 2 December 2015 (EST)
* RyanGibsonStewart, do you support moving Alethea Thorn's ability to the persuasion article? Please note how Damen uses his ability on Jim in the above video (without issuing an imperative).--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:34, 2 December 2015 (EST)
** Nope. They seem similar, but I don't think there's enough evidence to say they're the same ability. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:36, 2 December 2015 (EST)
*** I've removed the rename tag for now.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:47, 5 December 2015 (EST)

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Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources
Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine belief induction's name.
Source/Explanation
Alethea Thorn's ability name is listed in her Heroes: Survival profile.


Demonstration

If this was demonstrated, please move to the main spacename. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:47, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

Persuasion?

So, I'm confused, how is this not persuasion? --Ricard Desi (t,c) 22:29, 4 November 2009 (EST)

  • Persuasion makes someone do something, but this one makes them believe something. Not a huge difference, but we generally create new ability pages unless it's confirmed two abilities are the same. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 23:02, 4 November 2009 (EST)
    • User:Shadowulf1 15:49, 2 February 2010 (EST) By Persuasion, they mean persuading others to do as you wish, not persuading them of correctness or rightness; that's why Eden McCain's power is Persuasion and this one is Belief Induction, but it really should be called...

Deception

Persuading others to do as you wish by telling them untrue statements...seems pretty deceptive... User:Shadowulf1 15:49, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Move to persuasion or move Damen Peak's ability here?

I think Damen Peak's persuasion could fit here (based on how Damen used his ability on Jim in "A New Target: Damen Peak"), but webisodes are a higher level source for the name so that means this ability needs to be merged with persuasion instead.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2015 (EST)

The video of "A New Target: Damen Peak" is available at: http://www.nbc.com/heroes-reborn/video/a-new-target-damen-peak/2939545?snid=248021&onid=248021#vc248021=1 --MiamiVolts (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2015 (EST)

  • Joanne says, "Word on the street is that Damen is an evo gifted with the power of persuasion." She never says that he has the ability of belief induction, or even something along the lines of "able to induce belief in others". We use what we are given, which is that Damen has the power of persuasion. That's where he should be until we learn more. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:47, 2 December 2015 (EST)
  • RyanGibsonStewart, do you support moving Alethea Thorn's ability to the persuasion article? Please note how Damen uses his ability on Jim in the above video (without issuing an imperative).--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:34, 2 December 2015 (EST)
    • Nope. They seem similar, but I don't think there's enough evidence to say they're the same ability. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:36, 2 December 2015 (EST)
      • I've removed the rename tag for now.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:47, 5 December 2015 (EST)