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{{power names|5|eos=Description based on the effects of the ability}}
{{power names|2|eos=The intro to ''[[Under the Bridge, Part 2]]'' states:  ''"[[Perrin]]'s ability activates on instinct, sending '''bone spikes''' in every direction"''}}
Are we sure this is Perrin's ability? It hasn't been explicitly stated, but it does make sense... --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)
Are we sure this is Perrin's ability? It hasn't been explicitly stated, but it does make sense... --[[User:Radicell|Radicell]] 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)
==It is not clear whether or not the spikes can be retracted after being protruded==
==It is not clear whether or not the spikes can be retracted after being protruded==
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* I like it  --[[User:Laughingdevilboy|laughingdevilboy]] 14:39, 13 January 2009 (EST)
* I like it  --[[User:Laughingdevilboy|laughingdevilboy]] 14:39, 13 January 2009 (EST)
** I would go along with this, but the fact is that the spikes were drawn brown and thorny, very plant-like. Brown bone? I think that's reaching, so I'd rather just leave the term bone out of the name and put it in notes, like we do other info that doesn't come from the writers/artists.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:03, 13 January 2009 (EST)
** I would go along with this, but the fact is that the spikes were drawn brown and thorny, very plant-like. Brown bone? I think that's reaching, so I'd rather just leave the term bone out of the name and put it in notes, like we do other info that doesn't come from the writers/artists.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 17:03, 13 January 2009 (EST)
*** Maybe it was the lighting? I was under the impression that the accident happened during the sunset because of the color or the sky, maybe that made the spikes look darker? [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:21, 13 February 2009 (EST)
*What about '''Porcupine Mimicry''' ? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:27, 19 January 2009 (EST)
*What about '''Porcupine Mimicry''' ? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 13:27, 19 January 2009 (EST)
**'''EPIC WIN.''' I second porcupine mimicry. :D <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 13:38, 19 January 2009 (EST)
** I've never seen a porcupine pierce through a bus before.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 13:43, 19 January 2009 (EST))
** We didn't see a human sized porcupine yet, it may have more strengh with its spikes. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 14:01, 19 January 2009 (EST)
***Bump so we can resume this renaming discussion. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 09:21, 13 February 2009 (EST)
Can we make the move now?--[[User:Crazylicious|Crazylicious]] 21:24, 24 February 2009 (EST)
*That's what I'm hoping. Ryan, do you think you can ask the writers if the spikes were indeed bone? [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 11:26, 25 February 2009 (EST)
**Bump it again, if no one objects I'll take this as a consent to move the page. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:48, 4 March 2009 (EST)
*** I have no problems. --{{User:Laughingdevilboy/signature}} 11:43, 5 March 2009 (EST)
**** Can't see why not. --{{User:Irony/Signature}} 12:42, 5 March 2009 (EST)
***** You still doing the move, IE? --[[User:Crazylicious|Crazylicious]] 00:01, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
****** I want to complete a week from the last bump, so if anyone comes later saying "there was no consensus" I can point out that in one week no one spoke against it. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 14:24, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
*Me thinks the move can now be made. --[[User:Crazylicious|Crazylicious]] 23:42, 14 March 2009 (EDT)
**Me too. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 10:05, 15 March 2009 (EDT)


== Bone manipulation ==
== Bone manipulation ==
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* Examples: Marrow or Spike - [[User:Mike the Man-child!|Mike the Man-child!]]
* Examples: Marrow or Spike - [[User:Mike the Man-child!|Mike the Man-child!]]
** See my comment in prior thread.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)
** See my comment in prior thread.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 02:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)
*** I agree the name Bone Manipulation, better suits this ability, as it makes no assumption about the capabilities, or limitations of the ability, as well as accurately summing up what is known about it, aside from that it is an established name for the ability in other media which, (if I understand the naming conventions correctly) is the logical next step, as for the coloration and shape of the spikes it is explainable, naturally bone is not pure white, add in the lighting effect of sunrise or sunset, and it could darken it enough to appear to take on a brown hue, as for the shape it reminds me more of splintered bone than plant like thorns, (bone to my knowledge has a very jagged appearance when splintered) though I am but one voice others may hold different views.--[[User:Nexus|Nexus]] 05:05, 28 January 2009 (EST)


== better image ==
== better image ==
a better lead image I think would be the one at the top of [[Under the Bridge, Part 2]] page 4. --{{:User:UrNoob/sig}} 19:38, 18 January 2009 (EST)
a better lead image I think would be the one at the top of [[Under the Bridge, Part 2]] page 4. --{{:User:UrNoob/sig}} 19:38, 18 January 2009 (EST)
* Yeah, I like that one. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:33, 18 January 2009 (EST) {{Ryan's To Do}}
* Yeah, I like that one. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:33, 18 January 2009 (EST)

Latest revision as of 23:47, 18 April 2015

Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine bone spike protrusion's name.
Source/Explanation
The intro to Under the Bridge, Part 2 states: "Perrin's ability activates on instinct, sending bone spikes in every direction".

Are we sure this is Perrin's ability? It hasn't been explicitly stated, but it does make sense... --Radicell 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)

It is not clear whether or not the spikes can be retracted after being protruded

  • idn't Perrin say that there wasn't a murder weapon found and he was convicted anyway. I think it would be hard not to notice a giant spike through someone's body.--Dman dustin 11:52, 6 January 2009 (EST)
    • Maybe because the spikes go back to his body. Meteoritu 20:20, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Spikes accuracy??

Did anyone else notice how every single one of the spikes appeared to go through someones heart??? Added to that the fact the His wife was found dead with a wound THROUGH HER HEART...

leads me to think that it's not just simple spike emmision, that it's more heat-sensing or something similar. --Rikku4president 01:03, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Only his wife was mentioned to have been stabbed in the heart, to say all others were stabbed in the heart is speculative, you're trying to see something that just isn't there. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 07:47, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Rename to Bone Spike Protrusion

(Under the Bridge, Part 2) states: "Perrin's ability activates on instinct, sending bone spikes in every direction"...so should we append 'bone' as a prefix, like we do for other specific powers like: (Chlorine gas exudiation and Nerve gas emission)? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 01/13/2009 10:21 (EST)

  • I support the rename, it follows the standards we've used so far and describes the ability more accurately. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 10:27, 13 January 2009 (EST)
    • It is better than just spike protrusion --Irony 11:42, 13 January 2009 (EST)
  • Yeah the rename makes more sense, and it is canon after all.--Steelymcbeam 12:58, 13 January 2009 (EST)
  • I would say just "bone spikes". -Lөvөl 13:56, 13 January 2009 (EST)
    • No, not another noun for an ability name. Abilities need some sort of action verb in the name. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 14:36, 13 January 2009 (EST)
      • "Protrusion" is the noun form of "protrude" which is a verb. I think "bone spike protrusion" is a great name. Just a quick note: the intros to the graphic novels are not usually written by the writing staff, but by the NBC people. I think we would consider that a secondary source (#3), not a near-canon source (#2). However, I think the information there is fantastic--it's very helpful to know that the spikes are actually bone spikes and not some other substance. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2009 (EST)
  • I like it --laughingdevilboy 14:39, 13 January 2009 (EST)
    • I would go along with this, but the fact is that the spikes were drawn brown and thorny, very plant-like. Brown bone? I think that's reaching, so I'd rather just leave the term bone out of the name and put it in notes, like we do other info that doesn't come from the writers/artists.--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2009 (EST)
      • Maybe it was the lighting? I was under the impression that the accident happened during the sunset because of the color or the sky, maybe that made the spikes look darker? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:21, 13 February 2009 (EST)
  • What about Porcupine Mimicry ? --LIMAFOX76 13:27, 19 January 2009 (EST)
    • EPIC WIN. I second porcupine mimicry. :D Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 13:38, 19 January 2009 (EST)
    • I've never seen a porcupine pierce through a bus before. (Admin 13:43, 19 January 2009 (EST))
    • We didn't see a human sized porcupine yet, it may have more strengh with its spikes. --LIMAFOX76 14:01, 19 January 2009 (EST)

Can we make the move now?--Crazylicious 21:24, 24 February 2009 (EST)

Talk 11:43, 5 March 2009 (EST)

        • Can't see why not. --IronyUTC CH 12:42, 5 March 2009 (EST)
          • You still doing the move, IE? --Crazylicious 00:01, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
            • I want to complete a week from the last bump, so if anyone comes later saying "there was no consensus" I can point out that in one week no one spoke against it. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:24, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Me thinks the move can now be made. --Crazylicious 23:42, 14 March 2009 (EDT)

Bone manipulation

Ability to manipulate the bones in one's own body. This includes, but is not limited to, the generation of new bone mass, projecting bones out from the skin or rearranging one's own bones.

  • Examples: Marrow or Spike - Mike the Man-child!
    • See my comment in prior thread.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)
      • I agree the name Bone Manipulation, better suits this ability, as it makes no assumption about the capabilities, or limitations of the ability, as well as accurately summing up what is known about it, aside from that it is an established name for the ability in other media which, (if I understand the naming conventions correctly) is the logical next step, as for the coloration and shape of the spikes it is explainable, naturally bone is not pure white, add in the lighting effect of sunrise or sunset, and it could darken it enough to appear to take on a brown hue, as for the shape it reminds me more of splintered bone than plant like thorns, (bone to my knowledge has a very jagged appearance when splintered) though I am but one voice others may hold different views.--Nexus 05:05, 28 January 2009 (EST)

better image

a better lead image I think would be the one at the top of Under the Bridge, Part 2 page 4. --Max G. (T) 19:38, 18 January 2009 (EST)