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"This would be fatal for most humans, even other instant self-healers or otherwise durable characters." i found this phrase in the "Powers" section. i don't get what it's real purpose is and what it refers to. No kidding getting your neck twisted off can be fatal, and who are these "instant self-healers or otherwise durable characters" that are refered to? [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 12:14, 14 January 2007 (EST)
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:Agree. Weird. I guess it's referring to characters from other comic books? I dunno. Shouldn't be there, in any case. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 12:33, 14 January 2007 (EST)
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==Claire & the Cat==
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*The [http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=1022&pid=65535&st=0&#entry65535 panels] from the GN version showed up over "9th Wonders". Maybe we should add a page referencing them, seeing as it was Claire's first appearance (back in June 2006). I'm still trying to track down someone who was lucky enough to snatch a copy of the flash animation that goes with it.
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**Hiro's first appearance was also in "Claire & the Cat". Might want to add one for him as well.
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*** I created the page to [[Claire and the Cat|Claire & the Cat]], but it's being treated like a Redirect.  I put the "real" info into [[Claire and the Cat]].  Can someone look into this?  --[[User:Orne|Orne]] 17:24, 14 December 2006 (EST)
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**** MediaWiki doesn't really support "&" in article names right now.  Just use the [[Claire and the Cat]] article and use pipes when referring to it so it appears properly in articles.  We had to do this with "Gray & Sons" as well.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:27, 14 December 2006 (EST))
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***** I didn't notice a title anywhere on the panels. Does the actual title have an ampersand? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 20:03, 14 December 2006 (EST)
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==The punching of Jackie==
Is this a case of heroism in defence of Zach, or is it just a dubious case of breaking the rules? [[User:Cuardin|Cuardin]] 15:48, 14 January 2007 (EST)
:Personally, I think it a truly loyal thing to do. I don't think Jackie would agree. I go with [[moral ambiguity]] on that one. (I think of [[heroism]] as rescuing, saving, truly "superhero" things that are undeniably heroic &mdash; it's everything Hiro and Peter want to be.) - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 16:02, 14 January 2007 (EST)
 
== Pain resistance ==
*Had a thought earlier tonight while watching the mini-marathon on Sci-Fi. In [[Godsend]], Claire pokes her collarbone back into place with what appears to be only minor pain. I've known people to break their collarbones, and they've said it's pretty painful. Does anyone think that part of Claire's power is a resistance to pain? Or maybe she's just injured herself -purposely or not- so many times that she's just built up a tolerance? --[[User:ZyberGoat|ZyberGoat]] 02:35, 1 February 2007 (EST)
**I've thought the same.  The few times she's shown much of a reaction, it was either a shock (getting stapled) or otherwise unpleasant (burning flesh smell with the muffins).  I'm guessing she doesn't feel pain like most people do, but she feels ''something''.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 02:39, 1 February 2007 (EST)
***It's mentioned in the power page, and it's a great observation. Her pain level is somewhat inconsistent, but I'll accept it in the name of good storytelling. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 02:44, 1 February 2007 (EST)
****In the previews for Kindred Claire says "I can still feel pain", or something exactly like that, to West. This basically means that she is an amazingly brave person, or just used to it, but jumping out of Nathan's office takes guts when you know your gonna feel it. Although her pain would be short-lived compared to others. --[[User:SomeoneImportant|SomeoneImportant]] 15:53, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
*****She tells West that she does feel pain she just recovers from it very quickly. --[[User:Emmy141|Emmy141]]
 
* She feels the pain just like everyone else, like mentioned in "The Butterfly Effect" -- ([[User:WaterRatj|WaterRatj]]) 21:57, 29 January 2010 (EST)
 
==Age==
The notes claim that she says she's almost 16. In what episode is that? Also, it should be remembered that the timeline of the series  still has not gotten beyond early November, 2006, at which point the explosion is supposed to occur. I think the chronology seems to work ok, minus her myspace page, which shouldn't count. She was born some time in the fall of 1990 and turns 16 some time in the fall of 2006. Her 16th b-day may or may not have passed in the show timeline so far; but it probably has passed, since November seems a little too late to fit the 18 month reference.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 23:15, 26 February 2007 (EST)
* In [[The Fix]], before the shot of the windchime. She tells Bennet the bears need to go. "I'm almost 16 dad".
*Even if she were 20 or 21 months old, it's still reasonable that a reporter would say she's 18 months old. But we also need to remember that the ''[[Odessa Register]]'' reported her, um, dead. Roxana Castillo leaves something to be desired in her factual representation--her word can't be trusted. I would say Claire's word can. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 06:37, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
** Even if the "eighteen months" thing is correct, isn't this an easy fix? Who is to say that HRG gave Claire her real birthdate? She might very well be a few months older than she thinks she is. ([[User:Ulicus|Ulicus]] 22:06, 27 April 2007 (EDT))
*** In Run, Meredith says Claire's 16.  If you look at an HD screenshot of the Odessa Register article, the date of it is February 28, 1992, which would put Claire's birthdate around August 1990 if she was 18 months old at the time it was written.  Kring stated in an interview that she's 16 [http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Interviews-Features/Article/default.aspx?posting={F8961642-14DF-4B42-828F-55306B77FEF6}], and they stated that she had recently turned 16 in the Godsend commentary.  That one line in The Fix was probably just a mistake, and should be discounted.  They've had far worse continuinity errors on the show. [[User:Conduit|Conduit]] 12:31, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
**** You're absolutely right, and thanks for providing great sources. I agree the line in ''[[The Fix]]'' that she was "almost 16" is most definitely a mistake. However, it's still in the canon source, and I'm not so sure we can say it should be discounted. In fact, it should definitely be in Claire's notes (where it is), just as all other continuity errors are dealt with in the Notes section. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 17:29, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
***** Still, I think that the evidence that Claire is 16 has enough weight that we can say that that's her age. [[User:Conduit|Conduit]] 18:56, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
****** It's not a matter of weighing the evidence.  See [[Help:Sources#Contradictions between sources]].--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 19:45, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
* I think this is worth revisiting, since more than one in-canon source has indicated that she's 16. Her bio-mom says she's 16. Her mom says she was co-captain of the cheer squad by junior year. (Which would make her at least 16, possibly older.) [[User:Potostfbeyeluvr|Potostfbeyeluvr]] 11:48, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
**True. And she says herself that she's almost 16. [[Help:Sources#Contradictions between sources|Conflicting sources]] means we put anything that would negate another canon source in the Notes. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:38, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
 
*The season premiere seems to place her next birthday in <s>March 2007</s> April 2007, and being either her 16th or 17th birthday, this would place her birth as <s>March</s> April 1990 or 1991. I think this might be getting closer to the truth. [[User:Alexwill|Alex W]] ([[User talk:Alexwill|talk]]) 11:15, 26 September 2007 (EDT) ''(edited 21:01, 26 September 2007 (EDT))''
** I certainly received the impression that she drove herself to school on the day the Nissan Rogue was stolen. The State of California requires you to be 16 to legally drive. [[http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs09thru12.htm]] Can we cange the info box to "at least 16" and leave the birth year as undefined since it's in question? --[[User:NissanVersaDootDoot|NissanVersaDootDoot]] 18:49, 4 October 2007 (EDT)
 
Since There are 2 sets of information pointing to Claire's birthday/age, Can someone seperate that notes into the 2? One for her rough DoB going from her birthmother and the newspaper article (They put the right name, so a source would have known the baby was 18 months old), and one from what she believes because of what her family told her etcetera. I ask this because, in season 2, and supported by other stuff Claire learned from her family etc, her 17th birthday would be April (Season 1 took place oct-nov of 06, and season 2 starts off march 07, same school year, and Junior year, well you turn 16 before you start junior year, and turn 17 before you start senior. Not all junior-year students turn 17 during that school year, if their birthday was in august.)
Her 2 'dates of birth': between 1st and 19th April, 1990. (Season 2 stating it to be in April, and her starsign' ending on the 19th.) and around August, 1990 (the newspaper ad, from February 92, stating she was 18 months old, and her mom talking about her age being 16 as if it was a bit more recent that 6 months ago, although that could be her telling Nathan as a reminder of how much time had passed)--[[User:Alex mcpherson 79|Alex mcpherson 79]] 03:44, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 
:You don't have to turn 16 before you start junior year, even ignoring the possibility of skipping grades (not too likely in this case, as it would've probably been mentioned already).  I turned 16 three months after I started my junior year, and that's not especially out of the ordinary.  --[[User:Psiphiorg|Psiphiorg]] 23:58, 13 November 2007 (EST)
 
Whatever age she is in the main series, why on earth is an infant used to depict her when she's supposed to be 18 months old? (They said the fire happened when she was 18 months old.) Have these people never seen an 18-month-old child before? They walk around on their own; they don't lie in daddy's arms and vaguely pat his face.
* The news report that noted she was 18 months old also reported her as dead. I wouldn't put too much value in the ''[[Odessa Register]]'' or in Roxana Castillo's reporting. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:49, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
 
Mr. Bennet and other characters said she was 18 months old. The *writers* said she was 18 months old. The infant they used to portray her was... an infant. Don't the people who write the show talk to the people who cast the show? Doesn't anyone involved with the show realize what an 18-month-old child looks like? Or are you saying the writers (who also presumably wrote the line saying that Nathan "might not remember" the woman he had a child with) were trying to mislead us by saying she was 18 months old, and that she was actually only 14 1/2 when the show started? -- Js
 
Guys, now that [[Mrs. Bennet]] said to Alex that her daughter "is only 17" during the events of [[Exposed]], shall we now include that as her official age? -- [[User:Bonchilla|Bonchilla]] 02:53, 4 March 2009 (EST)
* I would agree with that.  It seems to be the most explicit and concrete example we have.  I won't be surprised if it contradicts some past information, but it's the latest information we have and we may just have to accept that they made a mistake in the past if the math comes out wrong.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 03:27, 4 March 2009 (EST))
** Because it conflicts with so many other sources of information, I would rather put it in the notes. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 08:41, 4 March 2009 (EST)
 
==Misnomer==
Does it annoy any one else that Claire is referred as being indestructible when she is in fact very capable of being harmed she is just able to heal for said harm. Not saying the healing isn't awesome, the misnomer is annoy is all, to me any way. -- [[User:Benoni|<font color green>Benoni</font>]] <small>13:25, 22  March 2007 (EST)</small>
*No, you're not. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 16:46, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
**What really gets me is when [[D.L.]] is called a "shape-shifter". Or a [[Haitian]]. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 17:21, 22 March 2007 (EDT)
***Feels good to not be alone. Thats something I really don't understand, why [[D.L.]] is called a "shape-shifter" that is. [[User:Benoni]] <small>14:50, 22  March 2007 (EST)</small>
****You have stupid NBC to blame for that.
****I thought [[D.L.]] could turn invisible? hehe. Joke. 'Phase-shifter' is closer to it. Heh. Swap the P and S.. Shape/Phase... might have been a typo? --[[User:Alex mcpherson 79|Alex mcpherson 79]] 03:47, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 
== Stub ==
 
Woah. Never thought that would happen. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 15:44, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
* I took it off.  An article as in-depth and complete as [[Claire Bennet]] definitely isn't a stub even if it's missing info for an episode.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 16:46, 6 April 2007 (EDT))
**But it still is incomplete. I added the [[template:sectstub|section stub]] so it would still be marked, but isn't so obtrusive. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 16:57, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
***In general missing information on an article should be noted on the talk page rather than using the stub template.  Missing information equates to an enhancement requerst.  Just because an article is missing info for an episode doesn't make it a stub and definitely doesn't warrant a big banner at the top saying so.  Every article is a work in progress and reflects a varying level of completeness and a stub is just that: a very basic page designed to get the bare essentials down before being expanded.  Tagging any page with such a high degree of completeness as a stub isn't accurate.  However there's probably a benefit to knowing which articles are missing episode-specific information, so I think a simple new category (not called stub) would take care of that nicely.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:47, 6 April 2007 (EDT))
***Actually, checking out the <nowiki>{{sectstub}}</nowiki> you added, that does look appropriate since it's at the section level and a blank section is essentially a stub.  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 17:50, 6 April 2007 (EDT))
****When you put it into the perspective of "every article is a work in progress", that makes a bit more sense. I agree, the sectionstub is more appropriate here than the big ol' stub. Do you think the sectionstub should point to a different category? It really is quite nice to just check [[:Category:Stubs]] to see what needs to be completed, but there's no reason we couldn't have another category for "more complete" articles. I'm not really opposed or in favor, just curious. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 18:13, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
*****Eh, I'm not really convinced that it '''needs''' its own category.  As you say, it's convenient to just be able to go to once place.  To me it's just about what a stub is.  An article missing a single section isn't necessary a stub, however a section with no info or only very basic info would be a stub (at the section level, of course).  ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 18:26, 6 April 2007 (EDT))
 
==Brunette!==
*Oh my goodness! Who saw the comerical for String Theory/ a glimpse of it with Claire as a brunette! I barely recognized her. [[User:Jason Garrick|Jason Garrick]] 15:45, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
**Now if she went red, that'd be something to sing about. (Yes, I have a thing for redheads, what can I say?) &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
*** Heh, maybe it's Claire's natural haircolour... it certainly seems like the Nathan Petrelli eyebrows have come to the fore(head) :P ([[User:Ulicus|Ulicus]] 22:07, 27 April 2007 (EDT))
**** Mmmmmm. :) (don't worry I'm younger than her) [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 23:08, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
 
== reference to bible? ==
 
"The Odessa Register calls Claire a "Mysterious Good Samaritan". This is a reference to the parable of the Good Samaritan from the Bible (Luke 10:25-37). Jesus told the parable to demonstrate that mankind should show compassion for all people. "
 
i don't think this line is needed.
It's true the phrase good samaritan derives from the bible but i think this is commonly and generally used in newspapers and media to describe ppl who helped others they don't know. There's even a good samaritan law in American and Canada that protects ppl helping others. So i guess this is kinda adding something that doesnt matter.--[[User:Zenithdoom|Zenithdoom]] 9 May 2007 (EDT)
 
*Well, the term "Good Samaritan" has purely Biblical origins, as far as I can tell, even though the term has become quite secular. True, ''Heroes'' might not be directly referencing the Bible or even anything religious when they printed that, but it still (in my opinion) counts as part of the theme. When Sylar's mom thanks God for bringing her son home safely, the same argument can be made that she's just sort of using a common term rather than actually thanking God. There are other similar examples. It's kind of a fuzzy line, isn't it? I don't mind taking the reference out, but I kind of lean towards putting it in and letting people make their own judgments about it. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 13:33, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
**well in my opinion it looked a little out of place u see. the line was kind of pushing it because from what i see, it appeared out of nowhere and doesn't quite fit in. but that might just be me.--[[User:Zenithdoom|Zenithdoom]] 15:51, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
 
==Lizards Summary==
* ... is currently a c n' p  from the episode summary.  It's too detailed and needs to be trimmed down.  (I was going to put the sectstub template on, but thought "This section is a stub. You can help by expanding it. In particular, this section needs to be trimmed down" sounded a bit odd.  :) --[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:29, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
**I second that. I was like Holy shitake mushroom! I was like, was she in that many scenes? Then I realized how detailed it was. [[User:Jason Garrick|Jason Garrick]] 15:30, 6 October 2007 (EDT)
***Still needs to be trimmed. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:52, 9 October 2007 (EDT)
****Alright, I did it. [[User:Jason Garrick|Jason Garrick]] 15:46, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
 
==Butler==
*Hasn't Claire's surname legally changed to Butler through relocation, along with the rest of her adoptive family? I know it would mean an ugly amount of editing, but it seems unlikely that the Company is going down any time soon. Thoughts? ([[User:Revengeance|Revengeance]] 09:47, 8 October 2007 (EDT))
**No way to tell if she's legally changed it or not. But even if she had, she's still more widely known as Claire Bennet (that's even how the family refers to themselves in the second season). Afterall, Sylar's legal name is still Gabriel Gray. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 12:14, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
** I doubt it's been legally changed.  That would defeat the purpose in changing it, since there would be a paper trail and the Company would be after the Butlers instead of the Bennets in no time.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 12:36, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
**My name is Alex Mcpherson. Well, it's not my REAL name but that's what I go by online. Not many people online know my real name... It's my Alias. Likewise, in real life others use Alias's there, rather than online (or both, depends what they do/why they have an Alias.) But usually, if they're not a spy working for a government or similar, their Alias doesn't have legal documents. If they do and don't go by their other name anymore, it's not an Alias. Just watch the TV show Alias (Gren Grunberg was on it before Heroes). Syd has numerous Alias's (some with legal documents, or forged documents as it were for those she had with SD-6). Not sure on those who have entered into Witness Protection, but the WP do have files on that locked up according to Alias season 3/5. For Noah, Sandra, Lyle and Claire? No they won't even use WP to change name. He would have gotten them new social security numbers and stuff like that without the normal procedures of changing name/new numbers, to get rid of the paper trail between Bennet and Butler. (again, the TV show Alias as an example, one of Syd's Aliases used a dead woman's social security number. I don't doubt that Noah Bennet would use that method aswell)--[[User:Alex mcpherson 79|Alex mcpherson 79]] 03:57, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 
== Equipment ==
 
Technically, Claire doesn't have her Nissan Rogue anymore, so can we remove it or add a note saying that it was stolen?--[[User:Croush1211|croush]] 23:35, 12 November 2007 (EST)
 
== V-Cut vs. Y Incision ==
 
It's minor, but the primary cut first made during an autopsy is called a "Y incision" not a V-Cut.  Yes, I have watched too much CSI.  [http://www.deathonline.net/what_happens/autopsy/autopsy_steps.cfm Autopsy Steps]
 
[[User:Dataloss|Dataloss]] 14:56, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
 
== Vivian Lewis ==
 
When did she go by that alias? --[[User:Snow Leapord|Snow Leapord]] 11:03, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
* In [[Parasite]] at the [[Texas airport]]. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 12:42, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
 
== Anyone else think Claire is probably the stupidest person in the entire show? ==
 
I cannot see why she fails to understand that her ability is not an offensive ability. She has the ability to heal. She should be pumping out blood for people who are sick and need treatment, instead of trying to be some stupid bounty-hunter who uses a taser. She needs to understand that some of the greatest heroes of all are found in hospitals and emergency rooms. --[http://heroeswiki.com/User:Logic Logic][] 13:07, 1 November 2008 (EDT)
:She probably knows this. But logic rarely wins when against emotions (no offense to you :P). Claire probably feels that saving people with her blood isn't "action" enough... she feels like she needs to be out there in the battlefield rather than behind the scenes. <small>'''Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ [[User:Thrashmeister|U]] | [[User_talk:Thrashmeister|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Thrashmeister|C]] ]'''</small> 13:18, 1 November 2008 (EDT)
::"But logic rarely wins when against emotions" It is this unfortunate truth resonating within the large majority of people on our planet which stymies some of the greatest advances of modern science that history has ever known. Emotions: the fundamental product of humankind's cognitive evolutionary history which acts as the source of both our greatest strengths and greatest weaknesses. --[http://heroeswiki.com/User:Logic Logic][] 13:46, 1 November 2008 (EDT)
I disagree. Peter is so much more stupid. Claire acts dumb because of HRG and her own idea of being "normal". Peter is a stupid person that makes stupid decisions. As a counter, Sylar is a insane person that is very smart and makes smart choices. Claire=dumb, Peter=ultimately stupid, Sylar=the only person on the show with a higher IQ than a contestant on "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader." Yeah, I guess you can tell I'm a root fort the bad guy person. (Brave New World=Goddie-too-shoe Sylar. Sulk.)--[[User:Dance4thedead|Dance4thedead]] 23:27, 22 February 2010 (EST)
 
== Not going back to highschool? ==
 
I have a feeling that we may never see Claire back in school for the remainder of Heroes. I heard in a Heroes Unmasked episode that one of the reasons that Claire hasn't been back to school this season is that the writers feel that Hayden is outgrowing the high schooler role or something.
I personally feel that she doesn't look to old to be in high school but that's my opinion... Also if West is no longer to appear on the show then what are the odds that if Claire goes back to school she wouldn't run into him? It looks like Claire Bennet may have to hang up her iconic cheer leading uniform for good.--[[User:Cairoi|Cairoi]] 20:12, 19 November 2008 (EST)
 
== She seems to erase people from her mind.... ==
 
Has anyone else noticed that every time Claire gets close to a fellow class mate she seems to eventually completely forget them? Ever since Zach helped her track down Meridith she hasn't once mentioned him, even though though she said he was her only "real" friend. Then in season two she meet West, who even though she also got really close to, she never mentioned again after the season was over. I know they sort of broke up but still, it doesn't seem realistic to just completely cut people out of your life who you were so close to. Claire wasn't the only one to do this though, Peter seemed to completely forget about Catlin as well. Maybe its a genetic thing..--[[User:Cairoi|Cairoi]] 19:30, 21 November 2008 (EST)
*She was forced to cut Zach out of her life. The graphic novels indicate that there was quite awhile between Noah's return (right after she broke up with West) and her attack by Sylar, meaning she had quite awhile to get over West off-screen. Peter's been busy saving the future (and therefore Caitlin) from the virus, the Company (by trying to reveal their secret,) and the formula, and when he isn't busy, he's stuck in a powerless body. - [[User:Josh|Josh]] ([[User talk:Josh|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Josh|contribs]]) 20:08, 21 November 2008 (EST)
**Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the same day she broke up with West was the same day Sylar attacked her. She was wearing the same shirt in episode 1 of season 3 as the one she wore when she dumped West(until she changed into a white one). Also another reason why it had to be the same day was that Nathan was shot the day she broke up with West and episode one picks up there. I donno I get that Claire and Peter were forced to cut people out of their lives, but it would be cool if they just mentioned them.--[[User:Cairoi|Cairoi]] 19:52, 22 November 2008 (EST)
 
==Claire catalyst==
 
Can someone please explain to me why Claire automatically assumes she is the catalyst? They said that Kaito Nakamura was responsible for hiding the catalyst. Claire has never even been in contact with Kiato so if she was the catalyst wouldn't it make sense that she be in japan so Kaito can keep a close eye on her. Her only reason for believing that she is the catalyst is because Sylar said she was special. What would Sylar know about the catalyst so long before Mohinder's research on the genetic modification formula. If someone could explain Claire's logic hear that would be great.-- [[User:Firemole|Firemole]] 6:09PM 24 November 2008 (CNT)
*When he was poking around her brain, he saw that her brain wasn't like any other brain he had poked before, that it was different, Sylar's power is to understand how things work, and Kaito is the one who handed Claire to Noah after he and Claude tried to bag and tag Meredith, they took baby Claire, and Kaito presumably put the catalyst inside her. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:26, 25 November 2008 (EST)
*Granted. But couldn't the catalyst still be a number of people possible Ando or Kimiko? It would make more sense if Kaito had kept the child with the catalyst near him as opposed to off in a distant country where he would most likely not be able to keep an eye on her. It seems like he's gambling with the future of humanity here.
**In response to original question, Kaito has [[Episode:Company Man|not only been in contact with Claire]] but she is being handed to [[Noah Bennet|another company agent]] for protection/care. HRG was most likely given Claire to protect the catalyst. Ring bells? --[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 19:40, 25 November 2008 (EST)
***That and I'm sure that the group of 12 kept in touch during these years, and it's not like Kaito couldn't get a jet to New York if he wanted to. Plus, the founders as a whole never meant for the formula to be used again, at least that's what Angela makes it seem, so there was no need to keep the catalyst's host near. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 19:44, 25 November 2008 (EST)
***Also, why not keep the third, most important part away from the rest of the formula?--[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 19:51, 25 November 2008 (EST)
****If they didn't intend it to be used again, why didn't they just destroy the formula? That's what I would do. It seems to me that they expected it to be stolen. Also, a non-evolved human host would be less conspicuous than the child of two evolved humans (who tend to end up with powers.) If the 12 had kept in contact. Angela would have been able to right away tell Claire she was the catalyst rather than haver her figure it out.
*****Kaito was the only who knew the identity of the host, and if they didn't intend to use, makes sense they wouldn't talk about it. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:06, 25 November 2008 (EST)
***** Not to mention it would be useful to have a formula that can hand out powers for "just in case" scenarios ie the eclipse.--[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 20:09, 25 November 2008 (EST)
***** Kaito contact thing, My mistake. But how would anyone know that the eclipes would do that? Still would be smart to keep her close by.
***** It seems likely that the "catalyst" isn't something Kaito gave to Claire. I think anyone born with rapid cell regeneration can be the catalyst; since Adam is the only other "native" we know of, and he's dead, it has to be Claire. Adam was in custody at the time Kaito gave Nathan powers. [[User:Product Placement|Product Placement]] 20:14, 25 November 2008 (EST)
*****Cant be simply rapid cell regeneration as Arthur now has that power form Peter. If it was that, they wouldn't need Claire. It's definitely something different
Couldn't the catalyst simply be the approaching of the eclipse. Most other hero's started developing there powers about the time of the eclipse but maybe being born with the powers puts the formula in you and your metabolism keeps it from mutating you until an eclipse occurs at the point the formula takes affect.
:::::::*This is going to sound boring coming from me, but can you please spell Kaito and Claire? I have a borderline OCD behavior when it comes to spelling. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:32, 25 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::*Sorry. I feel for you but i am an awful speller so I wont be able to change it as i am to lazy to look it up.
*Why hasn't anyone ever questioned Claire being the catalyst? There are still a vast number  of people that it could be other than Claire.
*Couldn't Mohinder's info about the catalyst being a human be off? It would make more sense if it was an object that shot some weird ray thing that caused the reaction rather than the presence of a certain human.
*I think the writers should have used this as an opportunity to add some importance to the characters who aren't seen so much. Don't you think? I would say it is a waste to have the catalyst be Claire. We see so much of her i now give a sigh when she appears on screen. She's starting to become boring. (sorry Claire fan boys but she is just on so much and so overly dramatic about everything that it has become draining to watch her. Giving '''more''' importance to her is simply a waste.)
** Could you guys please sign your posts?  It's pretty difficult to tell who's talking to who here. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 18:24, 13 December 2008 (EST)
 
== Claire Bennet's age. ==
 
On Claire Bennet's biography page it is mentioned that she is 17 in the info box. It also states that in the episode "The Eclipse Part 2" when Hiro takes her back in time 16 years to 1992 she sees her baby self at 18 months old.
 
The problem is that the baby shown is much too young to be a year and a half. She was at best a few months old if that. And I think very recently in "The Eclipse part 1" I think she mentions she was 16 so it seems maybe the age is wrong on the page. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 18:17, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:Never mind I see it is discussed elsewhere on the discussion page, but my observations still stand. [[User:Hunter2005|Hunter2005]] 18:35, 13 December 2008 (EST)
* Claire's age shouldn't be in the infobox at all as there are [[Help:Sources|conflicting sources]] for her age. See [[Claire Bennet#Notes]] for just about every age she's been listed as being. Oy! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:39, 13 December 2008 (EST)
* Given that her character is suppose to be in College and already got her GED by [[A Clear and Present Danger|the first episode for Villains]], I would think that she would be at least 18 unless I am wrong. --[[User:TrueBlueBrooklynite|TrueBlueBrooklynite]] 22:00, 22 February 2009 (EST)
 
== Claire sucks ==
 
Does anybody else wish they'd just get rid of Claire? Can anyone say they enjoyed watching her this season with all the "I can't feel pain"  and "I can fight, I can be more".  Personally I find her to her to be the most annoying and my least favorite character to watch.  Just wondering what you guys think.  Also she is responsible for the "watering down" of HRG, I'd love to see Claire die permanently and HRG go on some revenge trip. [[User:D Toccs|D Toccs]] 01:33, 28 December 2008 (EST)
 
== Birth Name ==
 
Is there any canon infomation on Claire's birth name? Gordon? Petrelli? [[User:Lizzie Harrison|Lizzie Harrison]] 05:12, 29 December 2008 (EST)
* Not that I know of. We don't know what Meredith put on Claire's birth certificate or if there was one.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 05:17, 29 December 2008 (EST)
** What's funny is that [[Mohinder]] pulled up a [[:Image:Mohinder's file on claire.jpg|fake birth certificate]] for Claire (''[[Powerless]]''). The name on the certificate is obscured, but it says that she was born to [[Sandra]] and [[Noah]], which is obviously falsified. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 10:07, 29 December 2008 (EST)
 
== Removed blog link ==
== Removed blog link ==
Guys, I removed the link for "Claire, That's Disgusting": A Heroes blog that got its name from a now-famous quote from Sylar to Claire", as I think it's mainly there for self - advertising, and I can't see any reason for it to be there. If you revert it back, that's fine as I'm not sure there isn't a reason why it's there.--[[User:IotV|IotV]] 17.42, 6 January 2009 (GMT)
Guys, I removed the link for "Claire, That's Disgusting": A Heroes blog that got its name from a now-famous quote from Sylar to Claire", as I think it's mainly there for self - advertising, and I can't see any reason for it to be there. If you revert it back, that's fine as I'm not sure there isn't a reason why it's there.--[[User:IotV|IotV]] 17.42, 6 January 2009 (GMT)
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****I think that in Meredith's little training session, Meredith mentioned something about "not needing to breath, but since she has relied on it for 15 years, she goes into panic mode and '''thinks''' she need oxygen"...was i the only person who saw this or did i remember it wrong?--[[User:Anthony Gooch|Anthony Gooch]] 16:08, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
****I think that in Meredith's little training session, Meredith mentioned something about "not needing to breath, but since she has relied on it for 15 years, she goes into panic mode and '''thinks''' she need oxygen"...was i the only person who saw this or did i remember it wrong?--[[User:Anthony Gooch|Anthony Gooch]] 16:08, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
*****She did say something like that but she does need to breathe, adam died in the coffin several times but kept coming back to life. Also, Claire can't be killed by being shot in the head, only in the back of the head (or full on shotgun anywhere on head :() She will also heal if shot in the heart, where did you get the last two ideas from?
*****She did say something like that but she does need to breathe, adam died in the coffin several times but kept coming back to life. Also, Claire can't be killed by being shot in the head, only in the back of the head (or full on shotgun anywhere on head :() She will also heal if shot in the heart, where did you get the last two ideas from?
******I have re-watched that episode and she dosent die because of lung regeneration (A Brave New world) she said its like water-boarding her body thinks it needs oxygen but claire's actually dosent


== Please... ==
== Please... ==
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**I'm going to advise that you be less aggressive than you are, lest you incur the wrath of a lot of people.  It is quite clear at this point that Claire and Gretchen are in a relationship. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 09:54, 24 February 2010 (EST)
**I'm going to advise that you be less aggressive than you are, lest you incur the wrath of a lot of people.  It is quite clear at this point that Claire and Gretchen are in a relationship. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 09:54, 24 February 2010 (EST)
***Oh yeah, Claire just turned homosexual after four volumes.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:37, 24 February 2010 (EST)
***Oh yeah, Claire just turned homosexual after four volumes.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:37, 24 February 2010 (EST)
****She didn't "turn" anything.  It is well within the realm of reason that she had never explored that particular side before.  The way this series is right now, Claire is bisexual. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 17:07, 24 February 2010 (EST)
***** Like it or not, Claire's sexual discovery is not uncommon. Sexual orientation is not set in stone, especially in young adults. And I agree with Ricard, your comments can be quite aggressive, confrontational, and sometimes downright rude, Boycool42. Please watch your tone. Thank you. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:00, 24 February 2010 (EST)
******Why are we calling it sexual when they haven't had sex?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 07:32, 25 February 2010 (EST)
*******Sexuality and sexual orientation are not defined by sex.  They are an indication of preference (when there is one) or sexual interest, or merely attraction.  A person can be homosexual or heterosexual without ever having had sex. --'''[[User:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Ricard</font>]]''' '''[[User talk:Ricard Desi|<font color=#609000>Desi</font>]]''' 10:52, 25 February 2010 (EST)
********And on that note, if the had to have had sex before being homosexual or heterosexual, then that would mean Claire would not be straight, since she admitted to Gretchen that she was a virgin. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 11:30, 25 February 2010 (EST)
*********You people are vicious lol--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)
**********We're like vultures, we'll strip the show of any meat it has so we can feed the wiki. :) --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 15:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)
***********Definitely.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 19:07, 26 February 2010 (EST)
************Well this really sparked up a debate but to be honest i do not care about Claire's sexual preferences biological or otherwise, just keep it away from the main story line. --[[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]] 11:52, 14 March 2010 (EDT)


== Future Claire had Trevor's ability ==
== Future Claire had Trevor's ability ==
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Can we PLEASE get brown-haired Claire in the present timeline, please?--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 16:43, 12 January 2010 (EST)
Can we PLEASE get brown-haired Claire in the present timeline, please?--[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] 16:43, 12 January 2010 (EST)
*thats actually a good point, when will we get a brown haired Claire?. --[[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]] 11:44, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
**I think it's just one of those things they used to distinguish between the present and future character, like Peter's scar, HRG's wirerims, etc.  We probably will never see it.  Probably the only one we will see will be Matt's gray hair :)--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 13:50, 14 March 2010 (EDT)


== Image ==
== Image ==
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* Yes. Save the cheerleader, save the world. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:17, 22 February 2010 (EST)
* Yes. Save the cheerleader, save the world. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:17, 22 February 2010 (EST)
**I'm not alone.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:42, 23 February 2010 (EST)
**I'm not alone.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:42, 23 February 2010 (EST)
***In Generations, she was a MacGuffin for her miracle blood.  In Villains, she was some weird damsel in distress that saves herself.  Past that, she hasn't really contributed to the plot...at all.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
== Is Anyone Else Really tired of Claire  ==
I mean not just because shes a whiny teenager but because of how ungrateful she is oh look at her supposed problems, she dosent want to be an immortal healer, who cant get hurt, feel pain, or die she wants to be normal, without a super-powered family and the best ability ever I mean come on. [[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]]
* I'm not tired of her at all. I think Hayden Panettiere gives her richness and depth, and I really identify with many of her storylines. In fact, I would say that Claire is the heart of ''Heroes''. Oftentimes, she is the audience's connection to the rest of the characters. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 16:23, 8 March 2010 (EST)
**Well I suppose your Kinda right, I guess its that I don't connect with whiney Claire Im more like Sylar not the killing part just the personality... Maybe [[User:Melkor111|Melkor111]]
*I'm with Melkor on this one. She whines constantly and has this over-inflated sense of self-righteousness. She talks so much about how she just wants to be "normal", but she doesn't realize that her power would be easy to hide if she didn't constantly toss herself out windows. I felt that she made her relationship with Gretchen much more complicated then it needed to be, deciding whether you're attracted to a member of the opposite sex is difficult, but I didn't see that as her main issue.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 17:55, 8 March 2010 (EST)
*She needs to die.  Period.--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 19:44, 8 March 2010 (EST)
*I wouldn't say she's whiny, but I also am starting to get tired of her. For example, understandable as they are (at times), her "opinion swings" can get on my nerves (two examples: her relationship with Noah (I love you, dad -- I hate you -- I love you, dad -- I hate you etc.) and her attitude towards being special (I want to be normal -- OK, I can't live a normal life, let's be special -- No, I want to be normal -- I don't want to be normal, I want to be a hero)). <br> Also, I *think* she's somewhat overused. --[[User:DrIstvaan|DrIstvaan]] 02:31, 9 March 2010 (EST)
**She almost let New York explode because of her feelings.  Blow his @#*!ing brains out!  Claire, you idiot. --''<small>[[User:Boycool42|<font color=blue>BOYCOOL</font>]]</small>'' -- '''''<big>[[User talk:Boycool42|<font color=black>THE END IS NIGH.</font>]]</big>''''' 07:43, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
== Aliases ==
When did she use these aliases: Vivian Lewis, Bonnie Monaco, and Jane Doe?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:47, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
*Jane Doe was when she was killed by Brody on the operating table. Vivian Lewis was the name when she was going to France with René, and Bonnie Monaco is the name she used when she went back in time to meet herself as a baby to stop the catalyst from being put in her. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 15:54, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
**Jane Doe is a placeholder name, not an alias.  She never used Vivian Lewis.  It was assigned to her and she ran away to New York.  Why do we have them on there?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
***Not sure for the Jane Doe, but for Vivian she did use it. She used the tickets/passports to get through the security gates, using Vivian as an alias. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:04, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
****So, can we get rid of Jane Doe?--[[User:Boycool42|Boycool42]] 16:05, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
*****I don't think so. The medical examiner called her Jane Doe. It's like with Noah. In "Jump, Push, Fall" the bank worker calls him Danko. Noah never said his name was Danko but we list that as an alias. It's the same here. Besides, it's not really causing any harm. --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 16:10, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
*****I agree with Boycool. Jane Doe was used as a place holder, not an alias.--{{User:PJDEP/signature1}} 22:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
== Guess they couldn't save the cheerleader... ==
Looks like Claire bit the dust on June 13th. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/13/heroes-reborn-nbc
Obviously we'll wait until we have confirmation in show to add this to her page, but I'm a little sad that this happened. Though I imagine being caught in a catastrophic event like the Odessa attack would probably blow her to bits, beyond regenerative capabilities, so it makes sense. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 19:39, 8 September 2015 (EDT)
* I'm not sad about it. I loved Claire's character, but it's not good to have an immortal character around. Do we ever really fear their demise? Are there really any stakes for that character? Maybe partially, but not fully. As much as I love Claire and as awesome an actress I think [[Hayden Panettiere]] is, I think this is a good creative move. (Also, are we sure she was killed on June 13, or just "a year prior"?) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:09, 8 September 2015 (EDT)
** Pretty sure she was killed in the Odessa attack depicted in the Dark Matters webisodes, judging from this teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjsnE-YDbc4 And while I do agree in that it's a good creative move, I feel like, it's a bit of a copout considering that she's basically the entire reason (in the context of the storyline) that Heroes Reborn exists. Everything in this new Reborn timeline is because of her, and in my eyes, that elevated her to the same level as Peter or Sylar in my eyes. I get that they couldn't get Hayden back but still, I feel like her character deserved a more proper sendoff. Maybe it's also the fact that they've revealed that she's dead before Reborn even aired. I would have been fine if she died, but only if we found that out in the actual show. Finding it out through teasers and interviews... I feel doesn't really do her justice. ONE LAST THING, since I'm such a stickler for details like this, I just don't get how she died. I assumed that her body was just blown to bits beyond regenerative capabilities, but that teaser clearly shows that her body is still relatively intact. Who knows, maybe under that sheet she's decapitated, but just looking at the way her body looks under the sheet, I highly doubt it. From a continuity perspective, I really don't get how she managed to die. Maybe they'll explain it like, an evo used a power that killed her past the point of regeneration or something, like a specifically permadeath type ability, but I don't know. If they can explain it effectively while at the same time sending off Claire in the show properly, I'll be more okay with everything. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 04:50, 21 September 2015 (EDT)
She's not dead. Well, we don't know that yet, but they've established their out already by establishing Phoebe as a power-blocker. --[[User:Gibbeynator|Gibbeynator]] ([[User talk:Gibbeynator|talk]]) 22:23, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
== Claire Audio in the premiere ==
Do we know who is credited with the audio clip of Claire?  <small>--[[User:HiroDynoSlayer|HiroDynoSlayer]] ([[User talk:HiroDynoSlayer|talk]]) 10/5/2015 16:36 (EST)</small>
* Not positive. It sounds a lot like Hayden, so it might be archival audio. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:56, 5 October 2015 (EDT)
== Claire's Babies ==
I'm calling this before the end. Her babies are Malina and Tommy--[[User:Iheartheroes|Iheartheroes]] ([[User talk:Iheartheroes|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Iheartheroes|contribs]]) 20:29 29 October 2015 (EDT)
* Looks like you made the right call. :) Just please remember to add your signature. I've added it now according to the [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Claire_Bennet&diff=470873&oldid=467015 history].--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:01, 7 November 2015 (EST)
== Temporarily dead ==
In Heroes, Hiro was able to get his ability back, by Matt Parkman Junior touching him; if someone of the same ability were to touch Clare, then she will be able to come back to life.--[[User:Masterofgravity|Masterofgravity]] ([[User talk:Masterofgravity|talk]]) 10:04, 7 November 2015 (EST)
:Maybe, but there's also the possibility that while Tommy can only hold onto one power at a time, the power goes back to the person when he gets another one. So Claire got her power back and revived after Tommy absorbed Hiro's power, and Hiro will get his power back if Tommy absorbs someone else's power. [[User:Sandubadear|Sandubadear]] ([[User talk:Sandubadear|talk]]) 12:12, 7 November 2015 (EST)
** I don't think it's possible. Future Peter (exposed one) died because Haitian blocked his healing ability. Since Haitian did not stay with him all the time, his power would kick in and he would come back to life. But he died for good when his power was blocked (Not like that spot behind the neck thing, but actually blocked, negated, like it was never there) --[[User:Sekobro|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro|talk]]) 19:15, 7 November 2015 (EST)
*** In addition to it being an alternate timeline, I think Peter's version of the ability worked differently than Claire's... I think Peter needed to remember his connection to Claire for the ability to kick in. It may also matter as to whether her body and more so, her brain, survives long enough for her ability to be given back, though with time travel as a possibility that may not be an issue.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:35, 7 November 2015 (EST)
**** Peter used DL's phasing but they had no connection. And after Peter lost his memory in season 2, he was still able to use his abilities without even remembering their source. And brain starts dying right after death(like 15 minutes), but in season 1 Claire get back to life after an autopsy which is like hours later. Or Peter came back to life after Sylar killed him (without remembering a connection, since he was dead). The powers work the same but if Haitian or Phoebe is there, it's like you never had them.--[[User:Sekobro|Sekobro]] ([[User talk:Sekobro|talk]]) 15:50, 8 November 2015 (EST)
***** I think the connection with DL was with his wanting to escape, and that's how he was able to use the ability without knowing DL... whenever he got that feeling of being held captive, he was able to phase. What I recall about Claire's ability and Peter is that Peter said he needed to recall how he felt about her to access her ability. And when Peter came back to life after Sylar got him, Claire was there so I guess that's the connection in that instance. And it's not just being there, I recall power negation not always being absolute and that it can be turned off by the user.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 16:31, 8 November 2015 (EST)

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Removed blog link

Guys, I removed the link for "Claire, That's Disgusting": A Heroes blog that got its name from a now-famous quote from Sylar to Claire", as I think it's mainly there for self - advertising, and I can't see any reason for it to be there. If you revert it back, that's fine as I'm not sure there isn't a reason why it's there.--IotV 17.42, 6 January 2009 (GMT)

  • I agree with you I dont think it has any reason for being there --laughingdevilboy 12:47, 6 January 2009 (EST)

Brody as a significant other

Can we really call Brody her former "significant other"? I mean, he's not so much her former "significant other" as her attempted rapist... --Golden Monkey 19:20, 26 January 2009 (EST)

Continuity

Anyone else thinks that the whole Claire meets Anna and Red Eye needs some closure? Just like Adam's 11th wife and Caitlin's fate, they just left that hanging. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:19, 8 February 2009 (EST)

  • I don't think anything really happened there, she was out shopping, fought off a few guys, told Anna she was lucky to have Red Eye and left without getting too involved. After all she is having her own problems right around now.--Steelymcbeam 12:20, 8 February 2009 (EST)
    • I don't think so, I just hope they don't end up like Gael and Bianca, who appeared two seconds in the show just to be killed off. I hope they appear fighting off HLS agents. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:25, 8 February 2009 (EST)

No I think it's hilarious the build-up that goes into a character, for a 2 second death. It's hysterical.--Steelymcbeam 12:28, 8 February 2009 (EST)

  • Well, I think it's a waste, both of them were well developed characters in the novels, they could have made a transition to the show easily. That's the thing I don't like about the GNs, they make good characters and just kill them off, either in the GN or in the show. How many interesting characters died in the end of the Evs Dropper arc? They didn't need to kill everyone. The German also had what? Five lines on the show before Knox punched him through the gut? If the writers don't want the characters to stay, just stop making good characters and stick to the ones they've got. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:35, 8 February 2009 (EST)

I don't agree with that, I think they definitely should keep making GN characters. They have their own story arc but yeah you're right, the writers should find new ways to implement them into the show. Just for clarification was Adam a GN character first or was that after his first episode?--Steelymcbeam 12:38, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Right thanks, so still no proof of a successful transition.--Steelymcbeam 12:42, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Pain

I'm re watching volume 3 on Netflicks, and I'm on the episode where Claire and Elle travel to Pinehearst so they can get help controlling their abilities. Claire was upset because, ever since Sylar attacked her, she can no longer feel pain and was afraid shed eventually not be able to feel anything at all. Do any of you remember if she ever solved that problem, can she feel pain again?--Cairoi 21:40, 8 February 2009 (EST)

I kind of doubt it. Nothing has really changed with her physically since then. And I believe Sylar said it was something to do with her nerve endings... Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 21:56, 8 February 2009 (EST)
She felt pain during the eclipse, and appreciated it. I don't think it's been mentioned since the eclipse. - Josh (talk/contribs) 22:47, 8 February 2009 (EST)
Check out the latest Behind the Eclipse. Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite said she didn't regain the ability to feel pain, though "in retrospect, she maybe should have." Still no pain, I guess. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:34, 9 February 2009 (EST)

Worst day ever!

Looking back I noticed a series of terrible events that all happen during the same day. First Claire broke things off with her boyfriend, then her apparently dead father comes home only to tell her that he is leaving again, soon after she sees her birth father get shot on the news, then Peter turns her down when she calls and asks if she can use her blood to help, finally she perused by Sylar in her own home, ultimately having her head sliced open and brain violated. To top it all off this results in her not being able to feel pain anymore. Poor kid, how does she handle it :/ --Cairoi 22:04, 8 February 2009 (EST)

  • Maybe her feelings heal, too. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:41, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  • I still think Jack Bauer has worse days. -Whizzles 10:22, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Weaknesses.

So far throughout the whole 3 seasons, I wanted to know everyone's weakness, because it was the only way for me to figure out if some characters would die or not. So far, the weaknesses leading to possible death I've witnessed of Claire are:

She can drown, Her head can be cut off, She obviously cannot go into outer space, She can suffocate, She cannot heal if there is something in her skull, She can be shot in the head, She cannot heal internally (?), She can get shot in the heart.

Isn't that sad? She has so many weaknesses rendering her pretty weak, especially since she has no combat skills (that we know of right now) Claire might and can be easily killed.

  • Those weaknesses can be applied to every character. Except Sylar.--Altes 10:02, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
    • She can heal internally, if makes no sense for that not to happen, and Sylar is as much vulnerable to the other weaknesses as she is. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 13:51, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I honestly think she can't die. Sylar says he couldn't kill her even if he wanted to. And then in I am become death he goes nuclear. Claire was a few feet away, it would have completely incinerated her, but she was still able to regenerate. --Gamerelite1 20:41, 22 March 2009
        • I think that in Meredith's little training session, Meredith mentioned something about "not needing to breath, but since she has relied on it for 15 years, she goes into panic mode and thinks she need oxygen"...was i the only person who saw this or did i remember it wrong?--Anthony Gooch 16:08, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
          • She did say something like that but she does need to breathe, adam died in the coffin several times but kept coming back to life. Also, Claire can't be killed by being shot in the head, only in the back of the head (or full on shotgun anywhere on head :() She will also heal if shot in the heart, where did you get the last two ideas from?
            • I have re-watched that episode and she dosent die because of lung regeneration (A Brave New world) she said its like water-boarding her body thinks it needs oxygen but claire's actually dosent

Please...

Tell me it's a joke. "Defensive Player of the Year" - that's a horrible nickname! It doesn't even sound like one! Why do you keep it in Claire's page?

  • I agree, this was Claire's joke she uttered to distract Flint and Knox. Claude called Peter an empath, yet it wasn't added to the list of his nicknames. Also, DPotY sounds disgusting. --Altes 10:43, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Claire and drunkenness

Claire was not drunk. She faked it. She didn't act drunk until the guy said something to her so she pretended to be drunk so he wouldn't be suspisious. It was quite obvious.--WarGrowlmon18 08:58, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

  • oh my gosh your so smart to have noticed this i mean i really wouldn't have! Crazytom112 15:57, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
    • Uh drop the sarcasam. I put down the page that Claire was unable to get drunk due to her power and someone removed it and I think said something about she was though she recovered quickly or something like that in the summary. I posted this in response to that. I think they missed she was faking it.--WarGrowlmon18 16:07, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

RCR vs. parasites

Just a thought: if Claire happened to have, umm, dunno, worms or lice, her ability wouldn't help much to get rid of them. Huh?))) --Altes 08:43, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Worms...I think her ability could fix those as they are internal, but I would think when it comes to lice I think she could contract them. I wonder, can Claire Bennet get pimples? lol--Anthony Gooch 16:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
  • lol, I think every teenage girl is jealous of Claire now because she can't get pimples. Acne is caused by skin pores getting infected and clogged, and Claire's ability prevents her from getting infected by bacteria and viruses (remember in The Eclipse: Part 2 when Claire lost her ability due to the eclipse and she died from sever infection from the gunshot wound? The eclipse ended and her ability returned and killed all of the bacteria that had originally killed her). Any bacteria that gets in her pores that would normally cause acne gets destroyed immediately. Lucky girl.

Baby Claires

Company Man and Our Father both feature babies playing Claire. Should we try to find out the identities of the babies or is doing that too small a thing to fuss with at this point? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 01:49, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

  • Yes, we should try to find out. I've put out various emails for about a year now, and nobody seems to know their names. Likewise, there is another set of twins (they're actually girls) who portray Matt Parkman, Jr. but likewise, nobody knows their names. :( -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:04, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

Brody

I think brody should be added as a boy frend i mean he was one even though he raped he

  • I don't. They never dated, Claire had a crush on him. They were never an item. Before they even started dating, he tried to rape her. That's hardly a boyfriend or even significant other. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:41, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
    • Yeah, you're right. I read the above sentence here and just for a moment, I took a kiss and a few moments together as a date. A moment of thought's mistake :) --Janrodrigo 13:01, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

Not Feeling Pain

I think that the reason Claire and Elle were having problems with there powers was because Sylar had sliced their heads open. He started cutting Elles and she lost control of he power and the same happened with Claire. Maybe its a defense mechanism.--Connorbb (Connor ROCKS !!!!) 15:23, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

  • Elle didn't get to have her head sliced open, Sylar only began to do it before she knocked him out, Claire not feeling pain makes perfect sense as a development of her ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:17, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
  • Sylar also attempted to open Peter's head, but Peter didn't lose control over his powers. And Ted didn't explode when Sylar killed him. And Angela is okay although both Peter and Sylar attempted to open her head. AltesUTC CH

New picture?

I think its time for new pictures for her and most of the cast. They look different this season.--Cairoi 10:15, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

  • I think the character portraits we have look great, and I don't think we need to change them. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:15, 27 September 2009 (EDT)
    • They are nice, but Peter has long hair now, Claire's is shorter, and some of the other side characters look different as well. I guess it's not that big of a deal though.--Cairoi 13:05, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

Claire's birthdate

She is born on 8th August. This can be seen in her profile when she found out Gretchen has been "stalking" her (the computer). --JLYK

ugh

"Haven't you heard? I'm the defensive player of the year." That is such a bad quote. It made me cringe when I first watched it. Could we remove it and update the section with some new quotes from this season?--Cairoi 14:49, 4 November 2009 (EST)

  • Sounds like someone is jealous that they aren't defensive player of the year.Gamerelite1 13:35, 12 November 2009 (EST)
    • Haha that actually made me laugh out loud. :) lol--Cairoi 15:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Gretchen

Shouldn't Gretchen be added as a significant other? They are very close.--PJDEP 14:34, 1 December 2009 (EST)

  • Friends, probably. But I doubt that they're going to be lovers (at least, not both ways.). And if Tim Kring ends up actually making them lovers, I swear, I will give him a piece of my mind. Just as people don't have a choice in regards to what skin color they have, what eye color they have, what medical conditions they might be born with, or who their parents are, people also cannot choose their sexual orientation. Genetics is never ones choice, and Sexual Orientation is part of genetics. I was born straight, so I cannot choose to be gay or bisexual, it's impossible. Actually, the only real choice that people have in regards to sexual orientation is whether they act on their lusts/attractions or not. Claire Bennet has never shown attraction to the same sex at all prior to Redemption, and considering how she was on the Cheerleading squad, that says quite a lot, if you ask me. If she has shown any attraction to people, it was to males. I really wish the rumors would just stop. Pokeria1 08:19, 26 January 2010 (EST)
  • lol your theory about genetics :p fail :p -- (WaterRatj) 21:35, 29 January 2010 (EST)
  • First off, it's not a theory. Look, bisexuality involves having crushes on both genders developing and occurring at the exact same time. When someone is straight, they cannot just change their tastes. The same goes for being gay. Even IF I desired to be gay, I definitely would never be able to try and change my orientation. If I'm not capable of doing that, neither can others, hence why it's down to the genetic level. Besides, the way people react to the gender that they are attracted to are through organs known as pheromone receptors, which are organs that are made up of tissues and cells, and DNA is in essence what covers it. As I said, the only REAL choice that we have in regards to sexual orientations is whether we act on our lusts/attractions/crushes/instinct to breed or not. Pokeria1 22:55, 29 January 2010 (EST)
  • I have had some friends who started out being straight and after several straight relationships, realized that they were bisexual or gay/lesbian. Claire has told Gretchen that she hasn't had any real relationships, so perhaps she's really bisexual or lesbian and just hasn't realized it yet. I think, while neither Claire nor Gretchen have openly admitted it, the last few episodes have show that Claire is bisexual and is starting to have sexual feelings for Gretchen. Claire says "And I wanna be more like that and not be holding to any label or definition of who I'm supposed to be... I just... I wanna hold your hand." (Episode: Pass/Fail) After that point, Claire and Gretchen hold hands repeatedly and hint at being a couple, but they haven't explicitly said they are together. I think that in the next episode or two, Claire will come out and fully admit her feelings for Gretchen. Also, I just noticed that the Heroes Wiki pages for Claire and Gretchen say they are each others significant others. --lightmaster 00:01, 30 January 2010 (EST)
  • This is a heroes wiki, but still want to say it a bit rubbish to say you are what you are when your born. you don't have experience then. You can be straight and never thinking of being gay or bisexsual and many many years later find out you have feelings for the same gender. So dont tell me that its genetic and can't change in course of life. It's simple silly to say so. Love isn't only have to do with pheromones and chemical reaction and stuff, i agree they affect love to but its not 100% the reason -- (WaterRatj) 11:55, 30 January 2010 (EST)
So... holding hands implies that she has sexual interest in Gretchen? I held my parents hands all the time, and I never had any attraction to them even once. Also, I know of a lesbian user on IMDb who stated that her first sexual attraction was towards Ariel from The Little Mermaid, and that was back when she was three. And BTW, if that was the case, my parents as well as any other members of my family would have gone that same route. You can't just start out being straight then turn towards homosexuality. That's just impossible. That's like turning from a caucasian into an african american in terms of appearance. It's just not naturally possible. And, yes, pheronomes do indeed dictate what love is about. I learned this in my science classes, and in "Max Keeble's Big Move," they explicitly referred to pheronomes as "Nature's Dating Service." And as for her not having any real relationships, then what was her dating West all about?! Pokeria1 13:01, 30 January 2010 (EST)
  • first off all i wasn't saying anything about Claire and gretchen, I was responding to you. And yes its possible and its happens very frequent! Don't compare sexuality with race. Anyway, its possible if you wanne believe it or not. You think everything you learn at class is 100% the way life works? Don't think so. Sexuality is not defined at birth. Only the gender -- (WaterRatj) 13:13, 30 January 2010 (EST)
    • Look, personal choice is fickle, so if you honestly think that sexuality is a matter of personal choice, then I'd be changing sexualities by the hour nonstop. Heck, knowing how fickle humanity is, I'd argue that they'd be doing the very same thing nonstop. Sorry for the confusion on the first part of my previous post, though, that was more directed at Lightmaster. And anyways, I've been drawing girls since I was twelve, and had three crushes, as well as overall attractions to girls, and I've even been completely repulsed at the mere thought of whether guys and guys do it. Granted, I'm also repulsed at the idea of sex as a whole, especially that outside of marriage, but sodomy/lesbian sex is basically even more disgusting to me than male/female. I would have been gay or bisexual a long time ago if I truly was those things, but I'm not. I'm straight and borderline asexual. And if what I learned in class is truly not 100% the way life works, then we should just annihilate the education system, period, since if it's not 100%, then it is not going to work, plain and simple. Pokeria1 13:24, 30 January 2010 (EST)
      • I'm not saying anything personal to you, cause i don't dislike you are anything, but just, their more cases then only you. If your sure your not attracted to anyone of your gender, then that your choice :D No one blames you. Everyone has to follow his own feelings. Everyone also have its own arguments and things they will never do or even can think about it. Its their right. But don't drag the whole human race over the same line :D Thier are people who can change their sexuality when they discover their self. But just don't say its immpossible, cause i know alot of people who can confirm that. So Lets drop it here. We are all different and thats the way it should be -- (WaterRatj) 13:28, 30 January 2010 (EST)
  • Claire and Gretchen don't have a relationship. It's just two dorky college girls hyped up on caffiene and being chased by three different serial killers.--Boycool42 07:42, 24 February 2010 (EST)
    • I'm going to advise that you be less aggressive than you are, lest you incur the wrath of a lot of people. It is quite clear at this point that Claire and Gretchen are in a relationship. --Ricard Desi 09:54, 24 February 2010 (EST)
      • Oh yeah, Claire just turned homosexual after four volumes.--Boycool42 16:37, 24 February 2010 (EST)
        • She didn't "turn" anything. It is well within the realm of reason that she had never explored that particular side before. The way this series is right now, Claire is bisexual. --Ricard Desi 17:07, 24 February 2010 (EST)
          • Like it or not, Claire's sexual discovery is not uncommon. Sexual orientation is not set in stone, especially in young adults. And I agree with Ricard, your comments can be quite aggressive, confrontational, and sometimes downright rude, Boycool42. Please watch your tone. Thank you. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:00, 24 February 2010 (EST)
            • Why are we calling it sexual when they haven't had sex?--Boycool42 07:32, 25 February 2010 (EST)
              • Sexuality and sexual orientation are not defined by sex. They are an indication of preference (when there is one) or sexual interest, or merely attraction. A person can be homosexual or heterosexual without ever having had sex. --Ricard Desi 10:52, 25 February 2010 (EST)
                • And on that note, if the had to have had sex before being homosexual or heterosexual, then that would mean Claire would not be straight, since she admitted to Gretchen that she was a virgin. --mc_hammark 11:30, 25 February 2010 (EST)
                  • You people are vicious lol--Boycool42 15:44, 26 February 2010 (EST)
                    • We're like vultures, we'll strip the show of any meat it has so we can feed the wiki. :) --mc_hammark 15:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)
                      • Definitely.--Boycool42 19:07, 26 February 2010 (EST)
                        • Well this really sparked up a debate but to be honest i do not care about Claire's sexual preferences biological or otherwise, just keep it away from the main story line. --Melkor111 11:52, 14 March 2010 (EDT)

Future Claire had Trevor's ability

It looks like it a little, doesn't it? AltesUTC CH 06:27, 5 December 2009 (EST)

lol you forgot the part where, peter got her gun :p, ust noticed it this so many months later your comment -- (WaterRatj) 21:34, 29 January 2010 (EST)

It's been 4 seasons...

Can we PLEASE get brown-haired Claire in the present timeline, please?--Gibbeynator 16:43, 12 January 2010 (EST)

  • thats actually a good point, when will we get a brown haired Claire?. --Melkor111 11:44, 14 March 2010 (EDT)
    • I think it's just one of those things they used to distinguish between the present and future character, like Peter's scar, HRG's wirerims, etc. We probably will never see it. Probably the only one we will see will be Matt's gray hair :)--Boycool42 13:50, 14 March 2010 (EDT)

Image

I dont want to start a poll or something (like with Sylar), but isn't this picture a little bit better?--Trizzy 15:25, 12 February 2010 (EST)

  • I'd say so. A straight on profile. --mc_hammark 15:30, 12 February 2010 (EST)
    • I think we should change it after one or two more users agree.--Trizzy 15:31, 12 February 2010 (EST)
      • So, does anybody agree?--Trizzy 15:51, 12 February 2010 (EST)
        • I don't have a problem with either image (the proposed change one or the current one), but I would not suggest doing something that major without getting most of the communities opinions first (eg - poll). Just my opinion though. --Stevehim 15:56, 12 February 2010 (EST)
          • Well, I sort of agree but I dont really think it's a major change of picture, the only difference is that in the other picture she looks straight in the camera. --Trizzy 15:59, 12 February 2010 (EST)
            • Yes, the other image is better.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 16:17, 12 February 2010 (EST)
              • I'd prefer this one.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 16:49, 12 February 2010 (EST)
                • "This" being the one we've got? or the one we're discussing? --mc_hammark 16:52, 12 February 2010 (EST)
                  • Sorry, should have clarified, the new one suggested. But I don't care if it does change or not. But if it is going to, then the new one.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 17:01, 12 February 2010 (EST)
                    • So are we ready for the change? Nobody seems to disagree and I dont think anybody will.-- Yoshi | Talk | Contributions 18:28, 12 February 2010 (EST)

MacGuffin

Does anyone else think Claire is just a MacGuffin for all the other characters?--Boycool42 17:43, 22 February 2010 (EST)

  • Yes. Save the cheerleader, save the world. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:17, 22 February 2010 (EST)
    • I'm not alone.--Boycool42 15:42, 23 February 2010 (EST)
      • In Generations, she was a MacGuffin for her miracle blood. In Villains, she was some weird damsel in distress that saves herself. Past that, she hasn't really contributed to the plot...at all.--Boycool42 15:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Is Anyone Else Really tired of Claire

I mean not just because shes a whiny teenager but because of how ungrateful she is oh look at her supposed problems, she dosent want to be an immortal healer, who cant get hurt, feel pain, or die she wants to be normal, without a super-powered family and the best ability ever I mean come on. Melkor111

  • I'm not tired of her at all. I think Hayden Panettiere gives her richness and depth, and I really identify with many of her storylines. In fact, I would say that Claire is the heart of Heroes. Oftentimes, she is the audience's connection to the rest of the characters. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:23, 8 March 2010 (EST)
    • Well I suppose your Kinda right, I guess its that I don't connect with whiney Claire Im more like Sylar not the killing part just the personality... Maybe Melkor111
  • I'm with Melkor on this one. She whines constantly and has this over-inflated sense of self-righteousness. She talks so much about how she just wants to be "normal", but she doesn't realize that her power would be easy to hide if she didn't constantly toss herself out windows. I felt that she made her relationship with Gretchen much more complicated then it needed to be, deciding whether you're attracted to a member of the opposite sex is difficult, but I didn't see that as her main issue.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 17:55, 8 March 2010 (EST)
  • She needs to die. Period.--Boycool42 19:44, 8 March 2010 (EST)
  • I wouldn't say she's whiny, but I also am starting to get tired of her. For example, understandable as they are (at times), her "opinion swings" can get on my nerves (two examples: her relationship with Noah (I love you, dad -- I hate you -- I love you, dad -- I hate you etc.) and her attitude towards being special (I want to be normal -- OK, I can't live a normal life, let's be special -- No, I want to be normal -- I don't want to be normal, I want to be a hero)).
    Also, I *think* she's somewhat overused. --DrIstvaan 02:31, 9 March 2010 (EST)
    • She almost let New York explode because of her feelings. Blow his @#*!ing brains out! Claire, you idiot. --BOYCOOL -- THE END IS NIGH. 07:43, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

Aliases

When did she use these aliases: Vivian Lewis, Bonnie Monaco, and Jane Doe?--Boycool42 15:47, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

  • Jane Doe was when she was killed by Brody on the operating table. Vivian Lewis was the name when she was going to France with René, and Bonnie Monaco is the name she used when she went back in time to meet herself as a baby to stop the catalyst from being put in her. --mc_hammark 15:54, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
    • Jane Doe is a placeholder name, not an alias. She never used Vivian Lewis. It was assigned to her and she ran away to New York. Why do we have them on there?--Boycool42 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
      • Not sure for the Jane Doe, but for Vivian she did use it. She used the tickets/passports to get through the security gates, using Vivian as an alias. --mc_hammark 16:04, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
        • So, can we get rid of Jane Doe?--Boycool42 16:05, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
          • I don't think so. The medical examiner called her Jane Doe. It's like with Noah. In "Jump, Push, Fall" the bank worker calls him Danko. Noah never said his name was Danko but we list that as an alias. It's the same here. Besides, it's not really causing any harm. --mc_hammark 16:10, 21 March 2010 (EDT)
          • I agree with Boycool. Jane Doe was used as a place holder, not an alias.--PJDEP - Talk - Polls and Opinions 22:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

Guess they couldn't save the cheerleader...

Looks like Claire bit the dust on June 13th. http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/13/heroes-reborn-nbc Obviously we'll wait until we have confirmation in show to add this to her page, but I'm a little sad that this happened. Though I imagine being caught in a catastrophic event like the Odessa attack would probably blow her to bits, beyond regenerative capabilities, so it makes sense. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 19:39, 8 September 2015 (EDT)

  • I'm not sad about it. I loved Claire's character, but it's not good to have an immortal character around. Do we ever really fear their demise? Are there really any stakes for that character? Maybe partially, but not fully. As much as I love Claire and as awesome an actress I think Hayden Panettiere is, I think this is a good creative move. (Also, are we sure she was killed on June 13, or just "a year prior"?) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:09, 8 September 2015 (EDT)
    • Pretty sure she was killed in the Odessa attack depicted in the Dark Matters webisodes, judging from this teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjsnE-YDbc4 And while I do agree in that it's a good creative move, I feel like, it's a bit of a copout considering that she's basically the entire reason (in the context of the storyline) that Heroes Reborn exists. Everything in this new Reborn timeline is because of her, and in my eyes, that elevated her to the same level as Peter or Sylar in my eyes. I get that they couldn't get Hayden back but still, I feel like her character deserved a more proper sendoff. Maybe it's also the fact that they've revealed that she's dead before Reborn even aired. I would have been fine if she died, but only if we found that out in the actual show. Finding it out through teasers and interviews... I feel doesn't really do her justice. ONE LAST THING, since I'm such a stickler for details like this, I just don't get how she died. I assumed that her body was just blown to bits beyond regenerative capabilities, but that teaser clearly shows that her body is still relatively intact. Who knows, maybe under that sheet she's decapitated, but just looking at the way her body looks under the sheet, I highly doubt it. From a continuity perspective, I really don't get how she managed to die. Maybe they'll explain it like, an evo used a power that killed her past the point of regeneration or something, like a specifically permadeath type ability, but I don't know. If they can explain it effectively while at the same time sending off Claire in the show properly, I'll be more okay with everything. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 04:50, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

She's not dead. Well, we don't know that yet, but they've established their out already by establishing Phoebe as a power-blocker. --Gibbeynator (talk) 22:23, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

Claire Audio in the premiere

Do we know who is credited with the audio clip of Claire? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/5/2015 16:36 (EST)

  • Not positive. It sounds a lot like Hayden, so it might be archival audio. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2015 (EDT)

Claire's Babies

I'm calling this before the end. Her babies are Malina and Tommy--Iheartheroes (Talk | contribs) 20:29 29 October 2015 (EDT)

  • Looks like you made the right call. :) Just please remember to add your signature. I've added it now according to the history.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:01, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Temporarily dead

In Heroes, Hiro was able to get his ability back, by Matt Parkman Junior touching him; if someone of the same ability were to touch Clare, then she will be able to come back to life.--Masterofgravity (talk) 10:04, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Maybe, but there's also the possibility that while Tommy can only hold onto one power at a time, the power goes back to the person when he gets another one. So Claire got her power back and revived after Tommy absorbed Hiro's power, and Hiro will get his power back if Tommy absorbs someone else's power. Sandubadear (talk) 12:12, 7 November 2015 (EST)
    • I don't think it's possible. Future Peter (exposed one) died because Haitian blocked his healing ability. Since Haitian did not stay with him all the time, his power would kick in and he would come back to life. But he died for good when his power was blocked (Not like that spot behind the neck thing, but actually blocked, negated, like it was never there) --Sekobro (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2015 (EST)
      • In addition to it being an alternate timeline, I think Peter's version of the ability worked differently than Claire's... I think Peter needed to remember his connection to Claire for the ability to kick in. It may also matter as to whether her body and more so, her brain, survives long enough for her ability to be given back, though with time travel as a possibility that may not be an issue.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2015 (EST)
        • Peter used DL's phasing but they had no connection. And after Peter lost his memory in season 2, he was still able to use his abilities without even remembering their source. And brain starts dying right after death(like 15 minutes), but in season 1 Claire get back to life after an autopsy which is like hours later. Or Peter came back to life after Sylar killed him (without remembering a connection, since he was dead). The powers work the same but if Haitian or Phoebe is there, it's like you never had them.--Sekobro (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2015 (EST)
          • I think the connection with DL was with his wanting to escape, and that's how he was able to use the ability without knowing DL... whenever he got that feeling of being held captive, he was able to phase. What I recall about Claire's ability and Peter is that Peter said he needed to recall how he felt about her to access her ability. And when Peter came back to life after Sylar got him, Claire was there so I guess that's the connection in that instance. And it's not just being there, I recall power negation not always being absolute and that it can be turned off by the user.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:31, 8 November 2015 (EST)