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Did you all check out some of these "extra bits"? :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:45, 4 November 2009 (EST)

  • Cool films. We're discussing them at Talk:Samuel Sullivan. I think we could document them on the Coyote Sands article.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2009 (EST)
    • That seems like an odd place to discuss them...but I'll continue the conversation over there. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:56, 4 November 2009 (EST)
      • Thanks... I'm trying to think now the best image for Coyote Sands films. Perhaps a screenshot of the cameras from the 1961 episode?--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:37, 5 November 2009 (EST)

The Force

Would this explain how evolved humans always seem to find each other? --mc_hammark 15:28, 7 November 2009 (EST)

  • Yeah, thats what I thought. Plus it might be why Samuel is gathering all these evolved humans. It seemed like thats also what Samuel was describing to Tracy. On a side note, I bet Edgar has a very strong "Force". (sorry, very extreme star wars nerd, couldn't resist)--Ratclaws 15:33, 7 November 2009 (EST)
  • Call yourself a Star Wars nerd? see here. And you should consider yourself a geek, not a nerd (always studying etc, geeks are fascinated with fantasy stuff like star wars), so add youself to my self-confessed geeks list on my userpage. --mc_hammark 15:36, 7 November 2009 (EST)
    • Cool. Glad to see you have phasing on there. Although as far as I know, only one Jedi can do that.--Ratclaws 16:28, 7 November 2009 (EST)


Why don't these qualify as Webisodes? ~~IHHTalk 17:14, 7 November 2009 (EST)

  • They don't have names or title-cards. --mc_hammark 17:16, 7 November 2009 (EST)
    • Neither does Slow Burn. ~~IHHTalk 17:20, 7 November 2009 (EST)
      • I suppose, but we have been told they are webisodes, unlike these. Although Slow Burn is another type of thing as well (can't remember the exact name) because 30s of it is played during ads. --mc_hammark 17:32, 7 November 2009 (EST)
        • Slow Burn is technically considered "tagged media", which simply is a way that NBC can get around paying actors at a different scale. They are considered webisodes among the producers and writers at Heroes. Hard Knox was a series of deleted scenes that were released as "Extra Bits" on In retrospect, they probably were not webisodes, but they resembled a webisode series in every other way, so we kept them as such. It still fits. However, the Coyote Sands videos do not have a title, do not tell a linear story like the other webisodes (including Hard Knox), and I have not seen them called "webisodes" among the producers and writers. I'll see if I can find out more information, though, including the nature of the videos, the writer, the director, etc. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:43, 7 November 2009 (EST)
          • Ok, well if we vote on them being webisodes, I vote yes! :) ~~IHHTalk 17:57, 7 November 2009 (EST)
            • They do have an order. They are chronological with the entry numbers. Obviously, the birthing entry ("entry 21") is the last. And IMO, they are as much webisodes as sketchy kinda-"webisodes" like Hard Knox and Slow Burn. NileQT87 18:30, 7 November 2009 (EST)
              • No, I don't mean that the individual clips don't have an order...I mean that all five clips were released at the same time. In contrast, all other webisodes released their parts or clips one at a time. And regarding Slow Burn, among the actors, writers, producers, and directors, they all call the Slow Burn clips "webisodes". It's only for legal reasons that they have to call it "tagged media". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2009 (EST)
  • They do have a name by the way, "March 5th, 1961"; "Entry 5"; "Abnormal Spike"; "Entry 21"; and "Suresh Blackboard Footage". ~~IHHTalk 17:03, 11 November 2009 (EST)
    • No, I don't mean that each individual clip doesn't have a name, I mean that the "series" doesn't have a name. "Extra Bits" is not the name of the series. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2009 (EST)
  • I guess it doesn't matter now! :) They have appeared on the episode! ~~IHHTalk 21:18, 16 November 2009 (EST)
  • Have all these films/clips been collected in the extras on one of the DVD or Blu-Ray sets? -- K1darkknight (talk) 04:09, 19 November 2015 (EST)

Interesting Stuff

I sorta liked how these clips were presented, and will there be a new villain or at least character with the earthquake generation or could it be Samuel Sullivan's earth ability? Either way, I'm still interested in what they are going to be doing with Papa Suresh's films about this stuff. After two seasons, they are finally going back to his stuff. --TrueBlueBrooklynite 21:35, 7 November 2009 (EST)

Plot hole

So If that is Samuel bring born in the one film, which it most likely is, then why is he alive? Didn't Angela say that every one accept herself, Bob, Linderman, and Charles died the night her sister started the storm?--Cairoi 12:38, 8 November 2009 (EST)

  • Which is one reason it may not have been Samuel. Also, Angela couldn't have known that everyone was dead, and there is no telling when these clips took place, it could have been before Angela arrived, and the mother and child could have left or escaped. --mc_hammark 12:43, 8 November 2009 (EST)
    • The videos took place on March 5, 1961, which is about a month after the Shaws arrived at Coyote Sands. However, there were other survivors--Chandra and Alice also remained alive. And if I were a doctor, and I knew what Chandra knew, I would have immediately sent that baby to the nearest hospital. This is not a plot hole, this is just speculation that Angela knew everything (which she didn't), and speculation that the baby is Samuel (which is not nearly confirmed, or even hinted, frankly). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:16, 8 November 2009 (EST)

Films or film

As far as I can tell, there is only one film, not several. Should we rename the page to Coyote Sands Film, since, as far as we know, there is only one film. --mc_hammark 13:49, 17 November 2009 (EST)

  • There's at least two films, probably more. One contains recordings Dr. Suresh took of himself about Samuel, which is the film we have documented. The other is from the episode 1961 where Chandra and Mr. Lieberman filmed Angela and later filmed Alice. That's currently a section stub needing to be expanded.--MiamiVolts (talk) 15:27, 17 November 2009 (EST)