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* Hard to tell. He's only written on paper so far.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)
* Hard to tell. He's only written on paper so far.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)
** We also don't know if his imprints are ink or something else... depending on what substance it is, he could possibly use the ability offensively. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 19:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)
** We also don't know if his imprints are ink or something else... depending on what substance it is, he could possibly use the ability offensively. {{User:Thrashmeister/Autosig}} 19:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)
== Sylar ==
Anyone else thinks that Sylar could have used it to forge Sandra's signature and not be caught by Noah? [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 18:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

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Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities
Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine imprinting's name.
Source/Explanation
"Imprinting" is a common name for what Joe Macon can do.


Useful/Useless

Unless this can bu used to write long works wuch as papers and essays, this has got to be the most useless ability the show has ever come up with. However, if he can forge people's signatures or things like that, it can actually be quite useful. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 11:10, 3 February 2009 (EST)

Agreed! I don't know why Sylar would want THAT power. --Cro Magnon 11:45, 3 February 2009 (EST)

  • How about to remotely forge checks and other documents? And it gives validating his parking ticket a whole new meaning...--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:53, 3 February 2009 (EST)
    • You think he might be able to use it to change what's already written down? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:03, 3 February 2009 (EST)
      • I dunno about that, but he could likely copy parts of what's written down onto another piece of paper. I think his ability may work by xeroxing his signature onto the papers, though to call it xeroxing or photocopying would be adding speculation.--MiamiVolts (talk) 12:26, 3 February 2009 (EST)
  • I'm getting a hilarious image of this being used offensively....
  • An ability doesn't have to be destructive to be useful. Sylar could use this power to save time while writing things down. He doesn't have a photographic memory anymore, so it would be helpful for him to be able to write information quickly. Remiel DeCarta
  • Sylar is not picky with power he just wants them all --Cj31094 17:22, 25 February 2009 (EST)

Animal imprinting

...is what I think of first when I hear "imprinting". If someone winds up with that ability, I recommend changing this to inscribing. This name is fine for now, though.--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:53, 3 February 2009 (EST)

I'm just glad it's not "Joe's ability"

  • because if that would have happened I would have done a backflip and kicked my printer out the window. It's nice to have a new power with no speculation for once. Too bad it didnt work for shattering, then sylar's powers would be completley clean. Oh, and we got to see Mr. Muggles again! --Piemanmoo 16:07, 3 February 2009 (EST)
    • Also glad it's not another pseudo-electical ability like electrical ink manipulation. I also hated seeing how vague they were in the show about Peter's power(s) resurfacing too...sometimes I think the writers do things solely with the purpose to tie us here at the HeroesWiki in knots for a week or so. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/3/2009 16:20 (EST)

Name and Naming conventions

This ability has a name in popular culture already (which is higher on the conventions list)... It is called Nensha. Thoughtography also falls under this banner usually, but it isnt necessary, so the name isnt speculative. But essentially its the ability to imprint objects with your mind. Check it out here- [1] --Action Figure 23:45, 3 February 2009 (EST)

  • Never heard of this word, and it certainly doesn't take my mind to what the ability does. Still think that imprinting is a better name. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 09:20, 4 February 2009 (EST)
  • Imprinting might work, but it puts me in mind of, dare I say it, Twilight *shudders*. So, my vote goes to Thoughtography. -- Bonchilla 13:12, 20 February 2009 (EST)
  • "thoughtography" sounds good though. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 09:49, 4 February 2009 (EST)\=
    • I'm just glad someone with a weird sense of humor didn't name it first, and call it "John Hancocking". --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 02/4/2009 09:51 (EST)
      • Or John Footpenis LOL jk XD
  • I'm not a big fan of "nensha," but thoughtography is good for me. And you're right; that is the common name for the ability so it would rank higher on the canon scale. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 17:36, 4 February 2009 (EST)
    • Where else has this been used? Until now, I've never heard of this term. Can you give some examples? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:44, 4 February 2009 (EST)
    • I saw this in one of the Xmen films, Soz I know not helping much. Thoughtography has my vote though.---Drwho113
      • I think "imprinting" works fine. "Nensha" might be the actual name for it, but I don't know if it's the common name for it. I've heard the term before, but if you asked me what it was two days ago, I probably wouldn't have been able to tell you. That doesn't seem like a good choice in name, in my opinion. However, I don't really care too much one way or the other on this one. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:09, 4 February 2009 (EST)
        • I saw this in the X-Men film as well, but until this showed up, I've never heard of either term. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:17, 4 February 2009 (EST)
          • I recommend adding redirects for "nensha" and "thoughtography", but leaving this article's name as-is.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:23, 4 February 2009 (EST)
    • I would like to point out that it doesnt matter which name anyone likes, or if they personally have heard of the term. But this IS the name for it, and clearly its well known enough to pass as the name for the article on Wikipedia. I am asking for a name change simply to follow the rules here. I wasnt really looking for opinions. I know that sounds jerk-y.. but.. well.. thems the breaks. --Action Figure 16:19, 7 February 2009 (EST)
      • Our naming conventions place common names above descriptive names. I don't have a very strong opinion on the name of this article, but I'll be the first to say that "nensha" is not a common name. It might be technically "correct" (we're talking about fantasy, here, so I'm not sure there's ever a "correct" name) and it may be the title of an article on another wiki, but that still doesn't mean it's a common name. I'm not opposed to "nensha" any more than I'm in favor of or opposed to "thoughtography" or "imprinting". None of those names is more common than the other. In that vein, I think "imprinting" is as good as any other name, and works better as the title of this article. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2009 (EST)
        • But Nensha and thoughtography are more common than "imprinting" for what we are talking about. In fact, I'd bet there is nowhere else where this ability is called Imprinting... These are their common names in the paranormal.. just like "Telepathy" or "Telekinesis" (which is actually more commonly called psychokinesis now...) --Action Figure 23:22, 7 February 2009 (EST)
          • The reasons I didn't vote in the other names: Nensha is far from being common, at least in the Heroes universe; thoughtography, while accurate, it doesn't feel as natural as imprinting and inscribing gives me the idea of actual writing, even carving. The reason I chose imprinting is because the way the ability works, it's like he's actually printing what he wants written, as if he was stamping what he wanted written. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:54, 16 February 2009 (EST)

Consensus

  • How bout a consensus?--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 19:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)
    • A consensus [check], you mean? But using the below format is actually a type of polling which discourages consensus. It is normally divisive, as it encourages people to join camps without interacting with the others who express opinions.--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Nensha

  1. --Shade 23:51, 23 February 2009 (EST) Imprinting sounds like a more purely mental ability... dunno, my guess at its meaning before actually opening the page was some kind of mental snapshots or telepathic control power. And Thoughtography... whether or not it's used elsewhere, it seems like an awkward name both in meaning/possible interpretations and just sound. Honestly, the first time I heard it, I thought it was a joke. Nensha may be uncommon and have no verbal associations with "writing things with your mind", but it's at least a distinct name that has no verbal associations with anything else.

Thoughtography

  1. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 19:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)Sounds clearer. Thought = mind/ graphy = writing (i.e. Calligraphy (produce an artistic writing), Filmography (produce images/ films), Hagiography (write about a certain subject), Radiography(produce image ) = they all have something to do with ink/printing/writing. And its a substitute for the name ability's real name Nensha, (Nensha Link).
    • Some people above have already said they prefer 'Imprinting'. All the terms mean roughly the same thing. A consensus [check] cannot help here, but only serve to force this to become Joe's ability. Is that what you want???--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2009 (EST)
  2. --Action Figure 19:08, 5 February 2009 (EST) Although Nensha is closer, because thoughtography usually refers to photographs, it technically isnt wrong and it seems to be the one people prefer. As for if you've never heard of it, thats fine, but it doesnt mean much. Anyone who is into the paranormal and especially ESP would know the term. Its used a lot. Nensha is just the Japanese word for it. (And used in the Ring movies for how the girl imprints her "curse" on the videotape) I have to go for this because I think we cant be so loose on some names and so strict on others (freezing... lightning...) you know? :)
  3. -- IronyUTC CH 14:46, 8 February 2009 (EST) Makes much more sense than imprinting (it makes it sound like the ability is to activate a printer)
  4. --Witchy2006 07:46, 13 February 2009 (EST) Imprinting just doesn't sound like an ability's name
  5. --Most formal, and descriptive. Imprinting sounds too much like Twilight, something we do not want to be associated with. Therequiembellishere 12:52, 15 February 2009 (EST)
  6. --Bonchilla 13:19, 20 February 2009 (EST) I agree that Imprinting doesn't sound like the right name for an ability. Plus, it also sounds too strongly of Twilight.
    • Whats the connection to Twilight? I neither read the books nor watched the movies, so it doesn't ring a bell to me. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:21, 20 February 2009 (EST)
      • Consider yourself lucky, mate. In Twilight, "Imprinting" is apparently when a werewolf finds someone s/he loves and is destined to be with; something reminiscent of finding your soul-mate. This is called 'imprinting'. The werewolf in questions knows that they are meant to be with that person they "feel a connection to" against all odds. In Twatlight Twilight, there's a werewolf - can't remember his name, fortunately - who "imprints" his mark on an infant; the bouncing baby of joy damnation offspring of the protagonists. Now excuse me while I go and bleach my brains out. - Bonchilla 08:42, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Imprinting

  1. --Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:59, 5 February 2009 (EST) It's a simple and accurate name, it says exactly what the ability does, it's easy to understand and it fits the format used by other abilities (ability supercharging, cloning, crumpling, enhanced hearing, freezing, healing, melting, phasing and precognitive dreaming).
  2. --Crazylicious 13:34, 8 February 2009 (EST) IE said it all.
  3. ----Steelymcbeam 14:19, 8 February 2009 (EST) Yep IE got here first.
    • It just doesnt matter --Action Figure 22:17, 8 February 2009 (EST)
  4. For me this sounds the most concise and just rolls off the tongue well. --Gianni23 18:13, 9 February 2009 (EST)
  5. SPARTAN-077 20:44, 13 February 2009 (EST)
  6. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 06:23, 19 February 2009 (EST)

  1. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 19:47, 18 February 2009 (EST) Nothing no one else hasn't said yet.
  2. ~I'm Uncanny474. Fear my wrath.
Uncanny474
Portrayed by I'm not telling you!!!
First appearance N/A
In-story stats
Known ability None
Formal name Sir Dr. Reverend Mr. Uncanny 474, PhD, MD, FYI (kidding)
Alias The dark but not quite black knight who's really more of a dusty grey.
Nicknames Uncanny, Mr. Awesome, Hey, you,
Gender
Age Now, that would be telling
Date of birth If I'm not going to tell you my age, why would I tell you my DOB?
Place of birth America
Date of marriage None
Date of death N/A
Home Everywhere (the Interwebs)
Residence The Interwebs
Occupations Editor for several Wikis, including Heroes Wiki, Professor of Star Wars History at the University of Ardent
Significant other None
Parent 2
Grandparent 4
Child None
Grandchild None
Sibling A few
Other relatives Several

Strengths

Besides my analytical mind, I loooooove to consider theoreticals. For instance, how far can TK go? How far can Telepathy, for that matter? What if Danko had killed Nathan (Shades of Grey)? What if...

See?

Powers

I may have Intuitive aptitude. I fixed my mom's watch once. Then again, it was just putting the back on, but...

I also may have Wind Amplification. This is a fancy name for the ability to make the wind blow harder (please, no jokes!). I have demonstrated this ability on a few occasions, but they may have just been coincidences. I must conduct further testing.

How I Learned I Have Wind Amplification

This is the story of how I learned about my Wind Amplification. It's a doozy, and it's still in progress (once again, I'm still testing it)

Origins

I first learned of this when (as I periodically do) I was testing myself for superpowers in the middle of a really boring class (Marketing). I was sitting by the window in one of the computer labs, when a slight breeze came through. It was a hot day, and I was sweating, so I liked that little breeze. I wanted it to be a bit bigger, though. So I closed my eyes, and thought very hard about making that little breeze big. I didn't think it would work, after my humongous failure at Space-time manipulation, but it was worth a shot. Lo and behold, the little breeze became big, and I opened my eyes. The big breeze shrunk. But the most interesting aspect of this ability was my instinctive ability to use it. It seems (I suspected this the first day and have proved a correlation through testing) that I must hold my hands a certain way to use it. This instinct is another case-in-point for the possibility of Intuitive aptitude.

Testing

My first test was conducted im my brother's room. I had learned about this power a few days ago and decided to try it again. So, we opened a window and, luckily, there was a breeze. I concentrated, and the curtains on my brother's window began to dance. Once I stopped concentrating, the wind died down.

Results of testing: Firstly, there must be a breeze. I have confirmed this several times. Secondly, it must be local. I had a failed test over the phone with a friend that confirmed this. Thirdly, I must hold my hands a certain way, and focus. Finally, there is sometimes a time delay in the activation of the power and my concentration. Hopefully, this power will evolve, but if it doesn't, oh well. At least Nathan and Danko aren't going to come for me anytime soon.

Harvey Jeffries

Harvey Jeffries was my entry in the Cockney Heroes Competition. He ended up losing, but he he now is appearing in the Heroes: Survival Game and several RPs on 9th Wonders. A link to him can be found in the title of this section.

Joseph Kentz

Joseph Kentz is my character who hangs out at the Angry Skunk Bar and Underground Lines bar on 9th Wonders. He has the ability to create weapons.

Karina Valez

Karina Valez is a character created for Underground Lines, to suppliment Joseph Kentz, who is frozen right now.

Mission

If I knew of a page that needed my attention that people aren't already swarming over, I'd work on that, but...

In the meantime, I will focus my efforts on concentrating the useless information of the world into the articles it deserves.

Enim Gloriae Quidnonique

--Uncanny474 20:03, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

Ardent Forever Come on. Thoughtography? What's next, Ink-okinesis?

  1. -Mateussf 19:19, 18 March 2009 (EDT) IE said it all.
  • Thoughtography isn't just randomly made up like "ink-okinesis". Its one of the substitute names for Nensha (Nensha Link), but 'Nensha' just doesn't described the ability carefully. --NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 16:30, 1 March 2009 (EST)
  • Four tildes to sign.. yes "Ink o kinesis" and a term that is ACTUALLY ALREADY USED for this ability are similar. Slippery slopes are for bad debaters. --Action Figure 23:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)

Inscribing

  1. ----Powermimic 22:27, 5 February 2009 (EST) Simple and to the point, Imprinting usually means to imprint by pressure.
  2. ----Max G. (T) 13:37, 9 February 2009 (EST) exactly.


In the Show

I am hoping to see this ability in the show at some point. I have no clue why Sylar would need to use this ability, but it would be interesting to see..--Catalyst (talk) 14:00, 8 February 2009 (EST)

He could use this ability to write a new list of evolved humans. Hope he doesn't lose this one without ever using it, the way he did with Trevor's cool ability. Mateussf 22:14, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Combat?

Just a random thought, anyone think he could perform a "Zorro"? Or just super office clerk?--Drwho113 (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2009 (EST)

  • Hard to tell. He's only written on paper so far.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)
    • We also don't know if his imprints are ink or something else... depending on what substance it is, he could possibly use the ability offensively. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 19:11, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Sylar

Anyone else thinks that Sylar could have used it to forge Sandra's signature and not be caught by Noah? Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 18:15, 8 April 2009 (EDT)