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== Angela's power ==
I think by now it is safe to say that whatever Peter's dreams are this power was absorbed from [[Angela]].
* [[Tim Kring]] says that Angela's power is used in the [[unaired pilot]]
* [[Jesse Alexander]] also says that [[Peter]]'s use of her power was kept in the [[Genesis|pilot]]
* [[Jeph Loeb]] and [[Jesse Alexander]] state in a [ Word Balloon podcast] that Angela's power has:
** been used on the show not by her but by [[Peter]] ([[Genesis]])
** is similar to [[Isaac Mendez|another character's]] [[Precognition|power]]
** allows to get from Point A to B quickly
== Mentioning Peter's vision on character pages ==
== Mentioning Peter's vision on character pages ==


How do we want to mentioning Peter's vision on character pages? There were many characters there, would it be a good idea to put a mention of this on every page? I just mentioned it on [[Matt_Parkman#Fallout|Matt's page]], and I think it just looks out of place. Suggestions? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:57, 7 December 2006 (EST)
How do we want to mentioning Peter's vision on character pages? There were many characters there, would it be a good idea to put a mention of this on every page? I just mentioned it on [[Matt_Parkman#Fallout|Matt's page]], and I think it just looks out of place. Suggestions? {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:57, 7 December 2006 (EST)
* I can go either way.  They're not really there, so it doesn't affect their own character history, but it doesn't really hurt anything to note it, since it ''is'' an appearance by the character.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 16:38, 7 December 2006 (EST)
* I can go either way.  They're not really there, so it doesn't affect their own character history, but it doesn't really hurt anything to note it, since it ''is'' an appearance by the character.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 16:38, 7 December 2006 (EST)
** Since the other character histories didn't mention it, I took it out of Matt's. It looked silly anyway. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)
** Since the other character histories didn't mention it, I took it out of Matt's. It looked silly anyway. {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)


==Graphic Novel Included in History==
==Graphic Novel Included in History==
So the entire graphic novel [[Super-Heroics]] is one of Peter's visions. I didn't know how to effectively include it in the article, so I added it as if it were an episode. I noted that it was a graphic novel. It fits in chronologically. The only other option I see is to put it as a note - but this seems like too big of story point to relegate it to the notes. It's not like we learn something simple (like that Eden killed her mom, or that Hiro was named after Hiroshima, or even that Claire saved Brody) - this is an entire vision. Thoughts? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)
So the entire graphic novel [[Super-Heroics]] is one of Peter's visions. I didn't know how to effectively include it in the article, so I added it as if it were an episode. I noted that it was a graphic novel. It fits in chronologically. The only other option I see is to put it as a note - but this seems like too big of story point to relegate it to the notes. It's not like we learn something simple (like that Eden killed her mom, or that Hiro was named after Hiroshima, or even that Claire saved Brody) - this is an entire vision. Thoughts? {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)


== Moved page ==
== Moved page ==


[[User:Ice Vision|Ice Vision]] moved this page from "Peter's visions" to "Peter's dreams". Does anyone object to this? [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:59, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
[[User:Ice Vision|Ice Vision]] moved this page from "Peter's visions" to "Peter's dreams". Does anyone object to this? [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 20:59, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
*Personally, I think it's fine. "Dreams" is a slightly better description of what Peter sees, in my opinion. My only concern is that it doesn't get mixed up with [[dream manipulation]]. <s>BTW, [[dream]] redirects to Sanjog's power, and [[vision]] redirects here, of course.</s> &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:25, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
*Personally, I think it's fine. "Dreams" is a slightly better description of what Peter sees, in my opinion. My only concern is that it doesn't get mixed up with [[dream manipulation]]. <s>BTW, [[dream]] redirects to Sanjog's power, and [[vision]] redirects here, of course.</s> {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:25, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
 
== Angela's power ==
I think by now it is safe to say that whatever Peter's dreams are this power was absorbed from [[Angela]].
* [[Jesse Alexander]] says in a December '07 [http://cdn.libsyn.com/wordballoon/WBheroesvol2wrapup.mp3 Word Balloon podcast] "Angela’s power has been established in the show and it’s there’s for hardcore people if they were to look at the show and look at Peter and think about him and what he can do and they could probably figure out what Angela’s power might be."
* [[Aron Eli Coleite]] and [[Joe Pokaski]] say that Angela's power is seen, and used by Peter, in [[Genesis]].
 
This means that her power is the dreams because that is the only power [[Peter]] uses in [[Genesis]].
-- {{User:Shoyru1177/sig}}
* Nope, it's definitely not "safe" to say that this power comes from Angela, nor that it is even a power. So far, they're just dreams. It ''is'' safe to ''[[Theory:Peter's dreams|speculate]]'' about it, though. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 21:08, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
**It's not a definite thing, but I had a dream that this page would be changed into a power page about "dreams with premonition qualities" as described by Tim Kring.--{{User:Baldbobbo/sig}} 03:02, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
*** You had a dream, eh? Um, have you been standing around Peter Petrelli lately? :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 07:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
 
==What are they?==
Here's something im sure has been on everyone's minds now that we know who this power is from (see above), what exactly are these dreams. My guess is [[User:Shoyru1177/fan powers#Astral projection|astral projection]].
Image:Dream of flight.jpg|[[Peter]] gets in [[Nathan]]'s head and watches him fly using AP.
.<br>(''[[Genesis]]'')
-- {{User:Shoyru1177/sig}}
 
==Merge with [[Precognitive dreaming|Precognitive Dreaming]]==
Since we know the dreams are part of the [[power]] [[Peter]] [[Empathic mimicry|absorbed]] from [[Angela]], should we merge this with the ability page or make it an "examples of..." page? --[[User:NellaBishop|NellaBishop]] 13:26, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
* I say leave it be, these are separate examples from Precognitive Dreaming, and are not proven to be the same power.--[[User:Steelymcbeam|Steelymcbeam]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (EST)
 
==Peter vs. Sylar==
Shouldnt a note be left on this page to show that peter's dream of battling an indestructable, flying villain did come true in his fight with sylar in ''[[An Invisible Thread]]''. [[User:Daevon|daevon]] 21:53, 12 January 2010 (EST)
 
== Peter's dreams about Emma ==
 
I'm pretty sure those were two ''different'' dreams not the ''same'' one with more detail to it.  Think about it: in the first one, there was no sign of Eric Doyle and Emma looked to be in the House of Mirrors (I think the second one was outside) and Emma didn't seem to be forced and Sylar was calmer, but in the second Emma was clearly forced by Doyle and Sylar wasn't as calm.  I think Peter changed the future a little but not much by destroying the cello.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 18:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)
 
If you look closely, the second dream is different than the first including the location. This is obviously influenced by Peter's warning to Emma that she finally listens to in Brave New World and the change in dream reflects the changes he caused in time with his warning.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] 02:09, 12 November 2013 (EST)

Latest revision as of 02:09, 12 November 2013

Mentioning Peter's vision on character pages

How do we want to mentioning Peter's vision on character pages? There were many characters there, would it be a good idea to put a mention of this on every page? I just mentioned it on Matt's page, and I think it just looks out of place. Suggestions? RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:57, 7 December 2006 (EST)

  • I can go either way. They're not really there, so it doesn't affect their own character history, but it doesn't really hurt anything to note it, since it is an appearance by the character.--Hardvice (talk) 16:38, 7 December 2006 (EST)
    • Since the other character histories didn't mention it, I took it out of Matt's. It looked silly anyway. RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Graphic Novel Included in History

So the entire graphic novel Super-Heroics is one of Peter's visions. I didn't know how to effectively include it in the article, so I added it as if it were an episode. I noted that it was a graphic novel. It fits in chronologically. The only other option I see is to put it as a note - but this seems like too big of story point to relegate it to the notes. It's not like we learn something simple (like that Eden killed her mom, or that Hiro was named after Hiroshima, or even that Claire saved Brody) - this is an entire vision. Thoughts? RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Moved page

Ice Vision moved this page from "Peter's visions" to "Peter's dreams". Does anyone object to this? Heroe!(talk) 20:59, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

  • Personally, I think it's fine. "Dreams" is a slightly better description of what Peter sees, in my opinion. My only concern is that it doesn't get mixed up with dream manipulation. BTW, dream redirects to Sanjog's power, and vision redirects here, of course. RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:25, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Angela's power

I think by now it is safe to say that whatever Peter's dreams are this power was absorbed from Angela.

  • Jesse Alexander says in a December '07 Word Balloon podcast "Angela’s power has been established in the show and it’s there’s for hardcore people if they were to look at the show and look at Peter and think about him and what he can do and they could probably figure out what Angela’s power might be."
  • Aron Eli Coleite and Joe Pokaski say that Angela's power is seen, and used by Peter, in Genesis.

This means that her power is the dreams because that is the only power Peter uses in Genesis. -- Shoyru1177 (talk)

  • Nope, it's definitely not "safe" to say that this power comes from Angela, nor that it is even a power. So far, they're just dreams. It is safe to speculate about it, though. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:08, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
    • It's not a definite thing, but I had a dream that this page would be changed into a power page about "dreams with premonition qualities" as described by Tim Kring.--Bob (talk) 03:02, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
      • You had a dream, eh? Um, have you been standing around Peter Petrelli lately? :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 07:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

What are they?

Here's something im sure has been on everyone's minds now that we know who this power is from (see above), what exactly are these dreams. My guess is astral projection. Image:Dream of flight.jpg|Peter gets in Nathan's head and watches him fly using AP. .
(Genesis) -- Shoyru1177 (talk)

Merge with Precognitive Dreaming

Since we know the dreams are part of the power Peter absorbed from Angela, should we merge this with the ability page or make it an "examples of..." page? --NellaBishop 13:26, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

  • I say leave it be, these are separate examples from Precognitive Dreaming, and are not proven to be the same power.--Steelymcbeam 13:29, 13 January 2009 (EST)

Peter vs. Sylar

Shouldnt a note be left on this page to show that peter's dream of battling an indestructable, flying villain did come true in his fight with sylar in An Invisible Thread. daevon 21:53, 12 January 2010 (EST)

Peter's dreams about Emma

I'm pretty sure those were two different dreams not the same one with more detail to it. Think about it: in the first one, there was no sign of Eric Doyle and Emma looked to be in the House of Mirrors (I think the second one was outside) and Emma didn't seem to be forced and Sylar was calmer, but in the second Emma was clearly forced by Doyle and Sylar wasn't as calm. I think Peter changed the future a little but not much by destroying the cello.--WarGrowlmon18 18:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)

If you look closely, the second dream is different than the first including the location. This is obviously influenced by Peter's warning to Emma that she finally listens to in Brave New World and the change in dream reflects the changes he caused in time with his warning.--WarGrowlmon18 02:09, 12 November 2013 (EST)