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Talk:Phoenix mimicry

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Draph's ability is explicitly named in his Heroes: Survival profile.


The article says that the power allows the user to revive from their ashes, and shortly after that it claims that users are immortal. I'm just slightly confused on how this works. If I have this ability, and I get shot through the heart, do I regenerate or do I have to be in ashen form to come back to life? Can someone just burn my body afterword or does have to be done before I die, or do I simply burst into flames if shot? Also, if I grow old and die of heart failure or something, do I simply revive as my current age, or as a young adult or as an infant? Or do I not age at all? I'm sorry for the overload of questions but I don't read much fantasy, and as a consequence know next to nothing about phoenixes.--PJDEP 21:51, 7 December 2009 (EST)

  • If you get shot, you burst into flame and then something that looks like an Easter egg appears in the middle of the ash, which then hatches. You come out of the egg fully-clothed and holding four million dollars cash. --Cosmic AC 20:14, 15 December 2009 (EST)
    • And then you're surrounded by beautiful women, oh and did we mention that the power also gives you every ability ever.

Now, let's be serious now. My personal interpretation is that, when you die, and you happen to have this ability, you get burned to basically nothing. And that when that happens to a phoenix mimic, they get revived to a perfectly healthy form. I haven't a clue what age you'll be at when you revive like that, but I imagine that it would be the same age you died at, only without any age-related decay, which would probably be negated, considering the immortality part of the ability (Though that was in quotation marks, so the ability might not actually negate aging.).--ERROR 20:49, 27 January 2010 (EST)

My Take On The Ability

I'm sticking this here so it's noticed. Personally, I love the ability. You get revived from your ashes, you can heal others by crying on them, you can wield fire, and you can even fly. Awesome ability. But when I look at it through Heroes's standards, I don't like the ability so much anymore. It's flight, pyrokinesis, pyrokinesis-related revivification, and watered-down healing (No pun intended) in one ability. I like the ability in terms of having it, but not in terms of being an ability on Heroes. Also, I like the story behind Draph's abilities (See? It even has story potential.).--ERROR 20:49, 27 January 2010 (EST)

  • I don't really mind this ability, and to be completely honest, most of the new abilities on Heroes seem to be more magic (Enhanced synesthesia, activation and deactivation, spider mimicry, etc.) then genetic possibilites, so it's not as if this ability is out of place in the Heroes universe. I'm really just not comfortable with the reincarnation from ashes thing, makes the user a little too omnipotent.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 21:36, 27 January 2010 (EST)
    • To be fair, telekinesis and rapid cell regeneration also make the user omnipotent--even in the same way in RCR's case. But, yeah, I don't like regenerating from pure ash. It can't even be explained by any scientific viewpoint (To be fair, abilities like RCR negate science, too. But at least it COULD make sense.).--ERROR 22:39, 30 January 2010 (EST)
      • Exactly, it's improbable that someone could regenerate cells so quickly, but not impossible. Regenerating from ash (and only ash) does seem a lot closer to impossible. RCR also has weaknesses, the "sweet spot" in the back of the brain and (allegedly) being decapitated permanently kills someone with RCR. Resurrection with phoenix mimicry doesn't seem stoppable.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 22:43, 30 January 2010 (EST)
        • Well, you could completely destroy all traces of matter in the user's body, but that seems impossible even by Heroes's standards. I mean, the most induced radioactivity could do to Nathan was heavily burn him (Well, I guess not LITERALLY burn him, but I couldn't think of a better word.). But yeah, other than that, you'll come back to life with this ability. And on top of that, you can emit fire, cry healing tears (The exact limits of with I would like to see), and even fly. To reiterate, one of the first abilities I'd think to choose, but still rather powerful. As a side note, I'd like to see how the Haitian (Okay, Rene) would affect this ability.--ERROR 21:48, 1 October 2011 (EDT)