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If Janice didn't appear in this episode, (because it was via a EH-induced ability), then do we need to go back and double-check all of our character appearances lists that involved Candace, and make sure we didn't include anyone in any of the earlier episodic character appearances that really weren't in the episode, but were a figment of her ability? What about Charles Deveaux as well, in (How to Stop an Exploding Man)....he really wasn't there either. We just need to be consistent regardless of the way we choose to take this. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/23/2007 11:47 (EST)

  • I don't have a problem including Janice or Simone or Charles. As we've said before, the appearances are as much/more about the actor than the character. We don't list Jessica and Niki separately, we've included (some) people from dreams, etc.--Hardvice (talk) 13:08, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
    • I don't mind including the information on the character's page ("Maury conjures Janice in Matt's nightmare", "Candace creates an illusion of Simone"), but it seems odd to me to include the appearance of a character when he or she doesn't really appear. It would be the same as counting a photograph as an appearance, which I actually think is more of an appearance than the product of a dream or some other conjuring. That said, I don't feel too strongly about it, but I do agree with HDS that there should be more consistency. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
      • I can go either way, honestly. It really depends on whether we're thinking of appearances as appearances by the character or by the actor. But since we list by the character, I would lean towards not including dreams/flashbacks/hallucinations etc.--Hardvice (talk) 13:26, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
        • Now that we have pretty solid character appearance pages, it really wouldn't be that hard to make an appearances page (and corresponding templates) for actors too. It would also help with things like Candice's multiple portrayers, or actors who portray multiple characters. That way we could really cover ourselves with all those quasi-appearances. If we wanted, we could even include photographs on the actor appearance pages, though that's a bit of a separate conversation. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:17, 23 October 2007 (EDT)


  • This is not complete. Off the top of my head, it's missing Officer Landry, and presumably any other new non-Elle characters.--Hardvice (talk) 12:48, 23 October 2007 (EDT)
    • And here they are:
Officer Landry
Nightmare guard
Girl with braces
Fitzpatrick--Hardvice (talk) 00:23, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Are the characters placed correctly in order of appearance now? For instance, I didn't think that the nightmare guard appeared after Tuko. I haven't gone back to check the episode, but I'm not sure the order of appearance is accurate. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:44, 28 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Oh, I didn't realize they were in order of appearance...--Hero!(talk)(contribs) 21:46, 28 October 2007 (EDT)
  • It would be silly to make a list of those who weren't included if there wasn't some reason to not just tack them on the end, right? Otherwise, it would have taken more effort to type the above list than it would have to just add them. ;) --Hardvice (talk) 21:48, 28 October 2007 (EDT)