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| [[Noah]], knowing what would happen in the painting, arranged with Mohinder to be shot by him. Mohinder was able to access Claire's blood and used it to revive HRG. || None || {{plus}} Mohinder and HRG had a lot of time together alone in the car to work on a plan.<br />
| [[Noah]], knowing what would happen in the painting, arranged with Mohinder to be shot by him. Mohinder was able to access Claire's blood and used it to revive HRG. || None || {{plus}} Mohinder and HRG had a lot of time together alone in the car to work on a plan.<br />
{{plus}} Mohinder and HRG still planned to take down the Company, even though it appeared that Mohinder was on both sides.<br />
{{plus}} Mohinder and HRG still planned to take down the Company, even though it appeared that Mohinder was on both sides.<br />
{{minus}} Bennet seemed genuinely surprised when he regained consciousness - it seems unlikely that he expected to be revived in a company facility.<br />
{{minus}} Bennet seemed genuinely surprised when he regained consciousness - it seems unlikely that he expected to be revived in a Company facility.<br />
:{{plus}} It's possible he was simply surprised by the feeling of being brought back from the dead. Even if he knew it was coming, it's difficult to prepare oneself for something like that.<br />
:{{plus}} It's possible he was simply surprised by the feeling of being brought back from the dead. Even if he knew it was coming, it's difficult to prepare oneself for something like that.<br />
{{minus}} Mohinder was distraught looking over the gun he had, almost in tears by what he had done. He couldn't have been in two places at the same time.<br />
{{minus}} Mohinder was distraught looking over the gun he had, almost in tears by what he had done. He couldn't have been in two places at the same time.<br />
{{minus}} Noah stopped Mohinder from shooting him when painting 7/8 was realized.<br />
{{minus}} Noah stopped Mohinder from shooting him when painting 7/8 was realized.<br />
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| [[Noah|Bennet]] will always have secrets. || None || {{plus}} He has a history of not telling the truth about his work. Also, he tried to hide the truth about [[Claire]]'s biological parents from her.<br />
| [[Noah]] will always have secrets. || None || {{plus}} He has a history of not telling the truth about his work. Also, he tried to hide the truth about [[Claire]]'s biological parents from her.<br />
{{plus}} He may be hiding that Claire received her ability through injection.<br />
{{plus}} He may be hiding that Claire received her ability through injection.<br />
{{minus}} As all of Claire's maternal side of the family has powers, and these powers run in her paternal side as well, it seems quite unlikely that she was injected with a synthetic ability. Plus, the fact Claire survived the fire as a baby proves that she had the ability from birth.<br />
{{minus}} As all of Claire's maternal side of the family has powers, and these powers run in her paternal side as well, it seems quite unlikely that she was injected with a synthetic ability. Plus, the fact Claire survived the fire as a baby proves that she had the ability from birth.<br />
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:{{minus}} Noah dying in some of the possible futures has nothing to do with the current timeline that the show is following.<br />
:{{minus}} Noah dying in some of the possible futures has nothing to do with the current timeline that the show is following.<br />
{{plus}} Since Noah does not have [[rapid cellular regeneration]], that is a certainty for him to die sometime.<br />
{{plus}} Since Noah does not have [[rapid cellular regeneration]], that is a certainty for him to die sometime.<br />
::{{note}} Rapid cell regeneration doesn't completely prevent death, as seen with Arthur.<br />
:{{note}} Rapid cell regeneration doesn't completely prevent death, as seen with Arthur.<br />
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| One day Noah will [[Heroism|die, protecting his family]]. || None || {{plus}} Noah always does everything to protect his loved ones.<br />
| One day Noah will [[Heroism|die, protecting his family]]. || None || {{plus}} Noah always does everything to protect his loved ones.<br />
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:{{minus}} Noah is Claire's adoptive father.<br />
:{{minus}} Noah is Claire's adoptive father.<br />
{{plus}} BTE confirmed there is a link between Samson Gray and Noah Bennet.<br />
{{plus}} BTE confirmed there is a link between Samson Gray and Noah Bennet.<br />
:{{minus}} This link is likely that Samson is Richard, the murderer of Noah's wife [[Kate]].<br />
:{{minus}} Noah could have captured Samson briefly during an assignment, explaining the company's knowledge of Samson.<br />
:{{minus}} Noah could have captured Samson briefly during an assignment, explaining the company's knowledge of Samson.<br />
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| Noah is looking for Sabine Hazel. || None || {{plus}} He is restarting the company.<br />
| Noah is looking for Sabine Hazel. || None || {{plus}} He is restarting the Company.<br />
{{plus}} Sabine Hazel is an enemy of the Company.<br />
{{plus}} Sabine Hazel is an enemy of the Company.<br />
{{plus}} Sabine Hazel is being hunted by Eric Thompson Jr.<br />
{{plus}} Sabine Hazel is being hunted by Eric Thompson, Jr.<br />
{{plus}} Medsen was looking for her.<br />
{{plus}} Medsen was looking for her.<br />
{{minus}} Noah does not know about the baby.<br />
{{minus}} Noah does not know about the baby.<br />
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{{minus}} So Noah, the great family man, tries to murder his own father and little sister?.<br />  
{{minus}} So Noah, the great family man, tries to murder his own father and little sister?.<br />  
{{plus}} His father and sister were threatening his daughter.<br />
{{plus}} His father and sister were threatening his daughter.<br />
{{plus}} Switching your last name from Bishop to Bennet to Butler (Four Months Later) is not a huge stretch. Perhaps he wanted to prove his own value, instead of being known as the Boss's illegitimate kid.<br />
{{plus}} Switching your last name from Bishop to Bennet to Butler ([[Four Months Later]]) is not a huge stretch. Perhaps he wanted to prove his own value, instead of being known as the Boss's illegitimate kid.<br />
{{minus}} Bennet has no knowledge of Linderman's connection to the Company and is imprisoned without appeal (Parasite). It would be very odd if his father was one of the leaders...<br />
{{minus}} Bennet has no knowledge of Linderman's connection to the Company and is imprisoned without appeal (Parasite). It would be very odd if his father was one of the leaders...<br />
{{plus}} Neither Bob nor Noah may know if they're related as cousins or father and son.<br />
{{plus}} Neither Bob nor Noah may know if they're related as cousins or father and son.<br />
{{plus}} Noah's mother is Anita. The only reference we have to his father is that he wears glasses. So does Bob Bishop.<br />
{{minus}} Noah stated within the flashback that he was the same age as his father when he needed glasses. Bob, however began wearing glasses at a much younger age as seen in 1961. <br />
{{plus}} Neither Nathan nor Peter Petrelli seemed aware of their parents' activities at the Company.<br />
{{plus}} Neither Nathan nor Peter Petrelli seemed aware of their parents' activities at the Company.<br />
{{minus}} Thompson mentions bringing him in personally. (.07%).<br />
{{minus}} Thompson mentions bringing him in personally. (.07%).<br />
{{plus}} An "HRG" shot with Bob (over the shoulder, from the back) was in Powerless. Besides being symbolic reference of Bob's control over Noah, it could also be symbolic of their possible family ties.<br />
{{plus}} An "HRG" shot with Bob (over the shoulder, from the back) was in Powerless. Besides being symbolic reference of Bob's control over Noah, it could also be symbolic of their possible family ties.<br />
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| Tracy and Noah will become partners. || None || {{plus}} Noah trusts Tracy.<br />
| Noah did not know what powers [[the Company's founders]] had prior to the [[Season One]]. || Noah didn't know that Linderman was head of the Company ([[.07%]]). Also, Noah did not associate [[Jeremy Greer]] with Linderman when discussing his [[healing touch]] ([[Tabula Rasa]]). Angela states that the company was formed to hide people with abilities from the world at all costs ([[1961]]). || {{plus}} Noah has never mentioned the powers of the the Company's founders besides Angela (whom has kept Noah under her wing).<br />
:{{plus}} Tracy was the one Noah called regarding [[Governor Malden]].<br />
{{minus}} It isn't known if Linderman could kill with his ability, like Jeremy could.<br />
:{{plus}} They are both lonely.<br />
:{{plus}} It hasn't been said that Linderman couldn't kill with his ability; Jeremy Greer's ability is listed as healing touch, which implies there is not a separate healing-only power for Linderman to have.<br />
:{{plus}} Sandra has divorced from Noah and is dating someone else, it seems.<br />
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:{{plus}} Tracy keeps contacting Noah for help.<br />
| [[Noah]] will be killed by Sylar. || Claire implied Sylar killed him in the exposed future. || {{plus}} He and Sylar have been enemies since Season One.<br />
:{{plus}} Tracy has ended all relations with Nathan and [[Governor Malden]].<br />
{{plus}} [[Sylar]] has come closer to killing him than [[Samuel]] or [[Becky]].<br />
:{{plus}} Neither have a job, they may decide to restart the Company together.<br />
{{plus}} Sylar said he'd kill every person "remotely involved" in what happened to him. Noah was one of the people who came up with the idea, even if he regretted it later.<br />
:{{plus}} There seems to be a trend regarding romance on the show: Gretchen/Claire; Edgar/Lydia; Peter/Emma.<br />
{{minus}} Noah is still friends with [[René]].<br />
::{{note}} Peter and Emma aren't romantically involved.<br />
:{{plus}} René is not invincible and could also be killed.<br />
:::{{plus}} Yet.<br />
::{{minus}} [[Peter]] was able to defeat Sylar with [[mental manipulation|René's ability]], and he only had it for a short time. René has been using his ability for a while, so he should be able to handle Sylar.<br />
{{plus}} Sylar doesn't have to fight Nathan for control, making Sylar's enemies more vulnerable.<br />
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| Noah arranged for Sandra to have her memories rearranged to think she was his only wife. || They met in 1986, yet in [[Turn and Face the Strange]] it was said she was married to him in 1985. || {{plus}} Maury Parkman used to work in the Company.<br />
{{plus}} Arthur Petrelli and Charles Deveaux had telepathy and the abilities to rearrange Sandra's memories.<br />
{{minus}} Timeline discrepancies aren't uncommon in the world of ''Heroes''.<br />
:{{note}} Hiro has changed the past many times, they could have all had unintended and uneventful ripples in the timeline, changing dates and events.<br />
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| Noah did not know what powers [[the Company's founders]] had prior to the [[Season One]]. || Noah didn't know that Linderman was head of the Company ([[.07%]]). Also, Noah did not associate [[Jeremy Greer]] with Linderman when discussing his [[healing touch]] ([[Tabula Rasa]]). Angela states that the company was formed to hide people with abilities from the world at all costs ([[1961]]). || {{plus}} Noah has never mentioned the powers of the [[the Company's founders]] besides Angela (whom has kept Noah under her wing).<br />
| Noah will be forced to help the government round up specials like in Volume 4. || Volume 4 || {{plus}} In order to protect Claire, he will have to help the government again.<br />
{{minus}} It isn't know if Linderman could kill with his ability, like Jeremy could.<br />
{{plus}} This fits into the explosion future coming true.<br />
:{{plus}} It hasn't been said that Linderman couldn't kill with his ability; Jeremy Greer's ability is listed as healing touch, which implies there is not a separate healing-only power for Linderman to have.<br />
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| [[Noah]] will develop a power. || His statement to [[Jeremy Greer]]. || {{minus}} He was trying to reassure a frightened teenager. This is not a prophetic statement.<br /> 
| Noah is the biological father of Noah Gray. || None || {{plus}} Sylar was his partner at Primatech, he could have adopted a son Noah can have with Lauren.<br />
{{plus}} [[Tom Miller]] developed a power, later in life.<br />
{{plus}} Noah is dating Lauren Gilmore.<br />
:{{minus}} No information is given regarding when [[Tom Miller]] developed his power.<br /> 
{{minus}} Noah was with Sandra in the exposed future, not Lauren.<br />
:{{plus}} The list does not mention everyone and who knows how long the gene takes to activate?<br />
{{plus}} We only know that he was dead in the exposed future, not who he was with.<br />
::{{minus}} According to the file Noah had on Jeremy, the Company started keeping a watch on Jeremy before he manifested, because there his genome was a match to an ability.<br />
{{plus}} [[Noah]] is only about 5-6 years older than [[Nathan]] who discovered his power at 39 in 2006. [[Nathan]] would've turned 40 according to [[Angela]] in the opening episodes of Season 4.<br />
{{minus}} Noah said his "power" is to understand evolved humans, but he never tried to understand [[Sylar]] or [[Stephen Canfield]].<br />
:{{plus}} He did try to understand Sylar, but he just couldn't.<br />
{{minus}} BTE often joked about non-evolved characters' powers - for example, [[Kimiko]] has the power "to make [[Ando]] drool", and [[Mr. Muggles]] has the power to re-arrange matter on sub-atomic level.<br />
{{minus}} Noah worked in the Company for fifteen years, they would've known if he had a power.<br />
:{{minus}} Since the company probably knew whether or not he did, it would have violated the "one of us, one of them" policy.<br />
::{{plus}} If the company knew or suspected, he might develop a power later on, then he would still count as one of us rather than [[Evolved Humans|one of them]].<br />
:::{{minus}} Company went after Jeremy Greer before he actually manifested, in their eyes, he was already a "one of them".<br />
:{{plus}} [[Elle Bishop]] and [[the Haitian]] worked together to catch [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Peter Petrelli]]. They are both [[Evolved Humans|one of them]].<br />
::{{minus}} Adam was someone certifiably dangerous, and he had Peter, who he manipulated to aid him. Not the usual bag and tag mission.<br />
::{{minus}} We don't know to what extent "one of us, one of them" goes to, Angela called herself an "us" to Noah, "us" could mean human or non-offensive evolved human.<br />
:::{{note}} It is unknown if Noah knew of her status as an evolved human at that point.<br />
::::{{minus}} Noah always seems to know more than he is letting on. He knew about Coyote Sands when there was never any need for it to have been mentioned to him.<br />
:::::{{note}} Noah said he was always told he didn't need to know because he asked about it. He knew there was something about it, just not what it was.<br />
:{{plus}} [[Primatech]] has often kep secrets from people like [[Penny Logan]] about having her father imprisoned. They could have done the same regarding Noah and his potential power.<br />
::{{minus}} Hiding kinship is not the same as hiding an ability.<br />
:{{minus}} The [[Catalyst]] is gone. [[Victoria Pratt]], one of Primatech bioengineers is dead. [[Mohinder Suresh]] destroyed one of the last vials. There is no way for them to give [[Noah]] the genetic modification formula.<br />
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Noah, knowing what would happen in the painting, arranged with Mohinder to be shot by him. Mohinder was able to access Claire's blood and used it to revive HRG. None + Mohinder and HRG had a lot of time together alone in the car to work on a plan.

+ Mohinder and HRG still planned to take down the Company, even though it appeared that Mohinder was on both sides.
- Bennet seemed genuinely surprised when he regained consciousness - it seems unlikely that he expected to be revived in a Company facility.

+ It's possible he was simply surprised by the feeling of being brought back from the dead. Even if he knew it was coming, it's difficult to prepare oneself for something like that.

- Mohinder was distraught looking over the gun he had, almost in tears by what he had done. He couldn't have been in two places at the same time.
- Noah stopped Mohinder from shooting him when painting 7/8 was realized.

Noah will always have secrets. None + He has a history of not telling the truth about his work. Also, he tried to hide the truth about Claire's biological parents from her.

+ He may be hiding that Claire received her ability through injection.
- As all of Claire's maternal side of the family has powers, and these powers run in her paternal side as well, it seems quite unlikely that she was injected with a synthetic ability. Plus, the fact Claire survived the fire as a baby proves that she had the ability from birth.

- Only her mother and maternal uncle were shown to have powers.
- Noah was seen holding Claire after the fire, so he saved her.
- Claire only began displaying a power in Six Months Ago.

It is unknown as to whether Noah knows that The Company developed a formula to grant people abilities.

Noah will eventually die permanently. None + He died in the explosion future and the exposed future.

+ 93% of the world died in the outbreak future. Noah was probably among them.

- Probably is not a confirmation.
- Noah dying in some of the possible futures has nothing to do with the current timeline that the show is following.

+ Since Noah does not have rapid cellular regeneration, that is a certainty for him to die sometime.

Rapid cell regeneration doesn't completely prevent death, as seen with Arthur.
One day Noah will die, protecting his family. None + Noah always does everything to protect his loved ones.
Noah's father is Samson Gray. None + Claire describes Sylar as her uncle in the future. This would be true if Noah is Sylar's brother.
- Claire said so, believing Sylar to be Peter and Nathan's brother.
- Noah is Claire's adoptive father.

+ BTE confirmed there is a link between Samson Gray and Noah Bennet.

- This link is likely that Samson is Richard, the murderer of Noah's wife Kate.
- Noah could have captured Samson briefly during an assignment, explaining the company's knowledge of Samson.
Noah is looking for Sabine Hazel. None + He is restarting the Company.

+ Sabine Hazel is an enemy of the Company.
+ Sabine Hazel is being hunted by Eric Thompson, Jr.
+ Medsen was looking for her.
- Noah does not know about the baby.
- Building 26 employees were looking for Hazel, not Company officers.

Bob Bishop and Noah are related, possibly as father and son. None + Bob was born sixteen years before Noah was born, making him just old enough to be Noah's father.

+ Elle's mother is unmentioned, perhaps the supposed connection between Elle and Claire is Elle is her half-aunt.
+ This ties in with Sylar as Claire's uncle if in the exposed future, he fathered a son with her adopted aunt.
+ This ties in with Sylar's link with Noah, he was involved with his sister.
- So Noah, the great family man, tries to murder his own father and little sister?.
+ His father and sister were threatening his daughter.
+ Switching your last name from Bishop to Bennet to Butler (Four Months Later) is not a huge stretch. Perhaps he wanted to prove his own value, instead of being known as the Boss's illegitimate kid.
- Bennet has no knowledge of Linderman's connection to the Company and is imprisoned without appeal (Parasite). It would be very odd if his father was one of the leaders...
+ Neither Bob nor Noah may know if they're related as cousins or father and son.
+ Noah's mother is Anita. The only reference we have to his father is that he wears glasses. So does Bob Bishop.
- Noah stated within the flashback that he was the same age as his father when he needed glasses. Bob, however began wearing glasses at a much younger age as seen in 1961.
+ Neither Nathan nor Peter Petrelli seemed aware of their parents' activities at the Company.
- Thompson mentions bringing him in personally. (.07%).
+ An "HRG" shot with Bob (over the shoulder, from the back) was in Powerless. Besides being symbolic reference of Bob's control over Noah, it could also be symbolic of their possible family ties.

Noah did not know what powers the Company's founders had prior to the Season One. Noah didn't know that Linderman was head of the Company (.07%). Also, Noah did not associate Jeremy Greer with Linderman when discussing his healing touch (Tabula Rasa). Angela states that the company was formed to hide people with abilities from the world at all costs (1961). + Noah has never mentioned the powers of the the Company's founders besides Angela (whom has kept Noah under her wing).

- It isn't known if Linderman could kill with his ability, like Jeremy could.

+ It hasn't been said that Linderman couldn't kill with his ability; Jeremy Greer's ability is listed as healing touch, which implies there is not a separate healing-only power for Linderman to have.
Noah will be killed by Sylar. Claire implied Sylar killed him in the exposed future. + He and Sylar have been enemies since Season One.

+ Sylar has come closer to killing him than Samuel or Becky.
+ Sylar said he'd kill every person "remotely involved" in what happened to him. Noah was one of the people who came up with the idea, even if he regretted it later.
- Noah is still friends with René.

+ René is not invincible and could also be killed.
- Peter was able to defeat Sylar with René's ability, and he only had it for a short time. René has been using his ability for a while, so he should be able to handle Sylar.

+ Sylar doesn't have to fight Nathan for control, making Sylar's enemies more vulnerable.

Noah arranged for Sandra to have her memories rearranged to think she was his only wife. They met in 1986, yet in Turn and Face the Strange it was said she was married to him in 1985. + Maury Parkman used to work in the Company.

+ Arthur Petrelli and Charles Deveaux had telepathy and the abilities to rearrange Sandra's memories.
- Timeline discrepancies aren't uncommon in the world of Heroes.

Hiro has changed the past many times, they could have all had unintended and uneventful ripples in the timeline, changing dates and events.
Noah will be forced to help the government round up specials like in Volume 4. Volume 4 + In order to protect Claire, he will have to help the government again.

+ This fits into the explosion future coming true.

Noah is the biological father of Noah Gray. None + Sylar was his partner at Primatech, he could have adopted a son Noah can have with Lauren.

+ Noah is dating Lauren Gilmore.
- Noah was with Sandra in the exposed future, not Lauren.
+ We only know that he was dead in the exposed future, not who he was with.


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