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{{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br /> | {{minus}} The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br /> | :{{plus}} Freezing would allow a tsunami to become a snowstorm, we have seen this power, and it isn't unlikely that one of the twelve also had this power.<br /> | ||
:{{ | :{{minus}} But weather control is the best explanation for the tsunami becoming a snowstorm.<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br /> | :{{minus}} Weather control implies that the tsunami could have been avoided altogether. The snowstorm implies that it was averted. Perhaps it took the abilities of several [[evolved humans]] to predict and neutralize the tsunami into a relatively harmless snowstorm.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br /> | {{minus}} Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.<br /> | ||
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:{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br /> | :{{note}} Tsunamis are not a type of weather, but snowstorms are.<br /> | ||
::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br /> | ::{{note}} Weather control would create a snowstorm, but could not deal with the wave.<br /> | ||
:::{{note}} Waves are controlled by the gravity of the sun and moon, and the wind, so someone with weather control might have been able to blow the tsunami into the air and turn it into snow.<br /> | |||
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| The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None | | The [[group of twelve]] have been using [[Adam Monroe]]'s blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. || None || {{plus}} They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br /> | :{{minus}} Yes, they do. The picture was obviously taken less than 30 years ago, based on the appearance of [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] as seen 30 years ago in ''[[Episode:Truth and Consequences|Truth and Consequences]]''.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using | {{minus}} If the [[Group of Twelve]] had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then [[Charles Deveaux]] would have recovered and would not have needed [[Peter Petrelli]] to be his hospice nurse.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} | {{plus}} Charles Deveaux is probably one of the good guys, and has refused to use the blood. We know there are members of the [[group of twelve]] that are helping Adam. [[Victoria Pratt]] may have revealed that Mr. and Mrs. Petrelli are not the good guys.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> | {{minus}} If they were using Adam's blood, he would have been unable to kill any of them and Sylar would have been unable to kill Bob Bishop.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br /> | :{{plus}} There is no indication that injecting oneself with regenerative blood has permanent effects; Nathan, for instance, was shot down (albeit somehow later revived).<br /> | ||
::{{note}} Blood lasts in the body 12 weeks before being broken down by the liver, therefore that is the maximum amount of time a person that has been injected with a regeneraters blood would be able to regenerate for. This is why Nathan died when attacked by Sylar but why he didn't die when he was shot.<br /> | |||
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| The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None || {{minus}} The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American.<br /> | |||
| The [[journal female 4|journal female]] who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than [[Victoria Pratt]], the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. || None | |||
{{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> | {{plus}} Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} If | {{minus}} If Victoria Pratt was clairvoyant she would have known Adam was coming and that Peter could also regenerate.<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} Victoria knew that Peter was with Adam, even though Peter had not mentioned him. Clairvoyance would not allow her to know Peter could regenerate.<br /> | |||
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| Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None | | Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. || None ||{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that [[Ishi Nakamura]] is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that.<br /> | {{minus}} The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that [[Ishi Nakamura]] is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers.<br /> | {{minus}} The creators hinted that all of them have powers. Kaito is hinted to have a power. Some may have passive powers.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> | {{minus}} [[Bob]] tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> | ||
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| [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None | | [[The Company's founders]] all have [[powers]], although some of them may be passive. || None || {{plus}} [[Angela Petrelli]], [[Arthur Petrelli]], [[Adam Monroe]], [[Daniel Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Robert Bishop]] all have displayed powers.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br /> | {{minus}} [[Kaito Nakamura]] and [[Victoria Pratt]] haven't displayed powers of any kind.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura | :{{plus}} Kaito Nakamura is hinted at having powers. Kaito is a parent of another [[evolved human]].<br /> | ||
{{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list | {{plus}} [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on the list which implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an | {{plus}} [[Carlos Mendez]] is related to [[Isaac]], who was an evolved human.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} It is implied by | {{plus}} It is implied by Angela that the twelve came together to save the world.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} | {{plus}} Bob tells [[Mohinder]] that the company was founded by normal people with extraordinary powers. (''[[Four Months Later]]'')<br /> | ||
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| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. || None || {{plus}} Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company.<br /> | |||
| There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. || None | |||
{{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br /> | {{minus}} The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common... | {{minus}} Or, they might have just hired a photographer to take a picture of them as a corporate event. It's fairly common... | ||
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| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None || {{plus}} [[Linderman]], [[Maury Parkman]], [[Victoria Pratt]], [[Bob Bishop]] and [[Kaito Nakamura]] were all murdered on purpose.<br /> | |||
| Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. || None | |||
{{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> | {{plus}} [[Arthur Petrelli]] might be trying to stop that happening.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed | {{minus}} He tried to kill [[Angela]] and killed Maury, both are in the group of twelve.<br /> | ||
{{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br /> | {{plus}} [[Adam Monroe]] and [[Sylar]] have both killed two of the group of twelve.<br /> | ||
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| The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. || None | | The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. || None || {{plus}} Five have been shown to have abilities, while seven have not.<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} It has been heavily implied that all of them had abilities.<br /> | :{{minus}} It has been heavily implied that all of them had abilities.<br /> | ||
::{{note}} [[Arthur]], [[Angela]], [[Bob]], [[Linderman]], [[Charles Deveaux]] and [[Maury Parkman]] displayed powers, [[Harry Fletcher]] and [[Paula Gramble]] are on [[Chandra's list]], and [[Kaito]] was confirmed to have an ability by BTE, so there were at least nine evolved humans among the founders.<br /> | |||
:{{minus}} The term also implies a fixed ratio, which as it stands, doesn't occur in the Founders.<br /> | :{{minus}} The term also implies a fixed ratio, which as it stands, doesn't occur in the Founders.<br /> | ||
:{{plus}} The insistence by Bennet to stick to the "one of us, one of them" thing does seem to make it sound like something that would be big on The Company charter. The "extraordinary abilities" line doesn't necessarily mean posthuman. Kaito Nakamura didn't have a power in canon, but certainly did extraordinary things.<br /> | |||
::{{note}} Kaito was confirmed by BTE to have an ability, it just was never revealed.<br /> | |||
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| There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being [[Adam Monroe]]. || None | | There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being [[Adam Monroe]]. || None || {{plus}} He was said to have brought all the other founders together.<br /> | ||
:{{minus}} That doesn't necessarily | :{{minus}} That doesn't necessarily mean that he's a founder himself. He could be a benefactor.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} He doesn't appear in the group photo.<br /> | {{minus}} He doesn't appear in the group photo.<br /> | ||
:{{note}} Adam was imprisoned long before they made the photo.<br /> | :{{note}} Adam was imprisoned long before they made the photo.<br /> | ||
{{minus}} They would've certainly hired a professional photographer for the occasion.<br /> | |||
:{{note}} One of the Company founders might have had [[telekinesis]] or [[technopathy]], so they wouldn't have needed a photographer.<br /> | |||
{{note}} One of the Company founders might have had [[telekinesis]] or [[technopathy]], so they wouldn't have needed a photographer.<br /> | |||
{{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br /> | {{minus}} [[Kaito]] said there were only twelve.<br /> | ||
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| The fifth founder, [[Kaito Nakamura]], was actually supposed to be [[Chris Coolidge]]. || None || {{plus}} [[Angela]] says that [[Angela's dreams|her dream]] brought her to Chris's concert.<br /> | |||
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One member of the Company's founders had the ability to control weather. | Bob claims that a light Miami snowstorm should have been a tsunami. (Out of Time) | + Weather manipulation would account for this. - The person could have worked for the Company and not be one of the twelve.
- The tsunami could have been stopped via a means other than weather control.
- Bob could have invented or embellished the story just to try and get on Nathan's and Matt's good side.
• Technically speaking, tsunamis are NOT a type of weather. They are ocean waves caused by earthquakes on the ocean floor.
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The group of twelve have been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, as a fountain of youth since 1977. | None | + They don't appear to have aged in 30 years.
- If the Group of Twelve had been using Adam Monroe's blood against his will, then Charles Deveaux would have recovered and would not have needed Peter Petrelli to be his hospice nurse.
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The journal female who was believed to have clairvoyance that gave a red hair sample was none other than Victoria Pratt, the woman who "wanted to be left alone". However, her clairvoyance is so developed that she is basically omniscient, almost creating astral projection. | None | - The journal female was of Russian/Polish decent. Victoria Pratt was clearly American. + Victoria could be an American of Russian/Polish ancestry.
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Not every member was an evolved human, but a few instead had other, more worldly attributes to contribute. | None | + Kaito Nakamura is a powerful industrialist (important ally and you would want someone experienced in running a company) and Victoria Pratt is a biological engineer (an obvious asset). Both have yet to demonstrate an actual ability. Being dead probably poses a problem to any future demonstration, but Nakamura and Pratt were both attacked and killed without displaying any abnormal defense. Nakamura actually implied during Hiro's sword training that Hiro was the first evolved human in the family. Pratt had to resort to a shotgun for her defense. - The Kaito thing may have been a continuity error due to the fact that Ishi Nakamura is an evolved human. The Pratt thing may be due to Victoria having a passive power like precognition or something like that. |
The Company's founders all have powers, although some of them may be passive. | None | + Angela Petrelli, Arthur Petrelli, Adam Monroe, Daniel Linderman, Maury Parkman, Charles Deveaux and Robert Bishop all have displayed powers. - Kaito Nakamura and Victoria Pratt haven't displayed powers of any kind.
+ Harry Fletcher and Paula Gramble are on the list which implies that they have the gene of the evolved humans. |
There is a person missing from the picture, but involved in the founding of the Company--the photographer. | None | + Someone may be holding the camera, and would be present at an intimate occasion amongst the founders of the Company. - The photograph could have been taken using a time-delayed camera or via one of the founders in the photo using telekinesis. |
Lots of different people are trying to eliminate the group of twelve so they could become part of a new group of twelve. | None | + Linderman, Maury Parkman, Victoria Pratt, Bob Bishop and Kaito Nakamura were all murdered on purpose. + Arthur Petrelli might be trying to stop that happening. |
The "One of Us, One of Them" term is taken from the group of twelve. | None | + Five have been shown to have abilities, while seven have not.
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There are thirteen founders, the thirteenth being Adam Monroe. | None | + He was said to have brought all the other founders together.
- He doesn't appear in the group photo.
- They would've certainly hired a professional photographer for the occasion.
- Kaito said there were only twelve. |
The fifth founder, Kaito Nakamura, was actually supposed to be Chris Coolidge. | None | + Angela says that her dream brought her to Chris's concert. |
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