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Ability Replication

if this is draph's orginal ability, how did it allow him to get ability replication from his twin. --mc_hammark 12:56, 4 November 2009 (EST)

  • Never said it did, apparently when his twin died in the womb, he got ability replication thanks to a special connection they shared (never elaborated upon). He didn't discover either power until he was 15.--WarGrowlmon18 14:20, 4 November 2009 (EST)
    • it says on Draph's page that it is his original ability, and that ability replication was given to him. I read about the special connection bit too on the Heroes Survival page, but it sounds a bit like empathy to me. --mc_hammark 14:23, 4 November 2009 (EST)
      • Yes, it was supposed to imply a sibling empathy. Draphoenix 00:43, 11 November 2009 (EST)
        • Cool. Imagine if others were able to pass on their abilities! --mc_hammark 11:43, 11 November 2009 (EST)
          • Perhaps, but it was only possible between a combination of Draph's Claircognizance and empathy. Similar to Intuitive Aptitude, but much rarer and much harder. Draphoenix 09:51, 12 November 2009 (EST)

Example

Should the example really be used if it's not a confirmed example? It seems to just be speculation. --OutbackZack 11:34, 9 December 2009 (EST)

  • I agree, it's unconfirmed. Also, Josh believed he read their minds, and telepathy is an ability Draph is confirmed to have.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 19:52, 2 January 2010 (EST)
  • Same, I think it should be removed. Because Draph never elaborated on whether it was Telepathy or not it should be removed, it could be added in the notes section though? --Leckie -- Talk 14:42, 26 January 2010 (EST)

Too much for an ability?

This ability is interesting...Wouldn't someone with this ability be considered as "all-knowing?" or omniscient? I mean, the user can find out what will happen in the future, how to prevent/manipulate it, and pretty have knowledge on everything there is in the world. And, reality-wise, how does this ability happen in the natural world? It's like knowing the conclusion to an experiment without even having any experiment at all. Any thoughts? Just putting up a discussion...--Realistic

  • It's not so much that it makes the user omniscient, it just gives them the potential. The knowledge is at your fingertips but you still have to work for it.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 10:24, 26 January 2010 (EST)

Unconfirmed ability

Josh Davis said that Draph read the girls' minds. The fact that he might have used claicognizance is irrelevant. If we have a source claiming that this was telepathy and not claircognizance, then we can't speculate. The problem is, currently, there's only one single example of this ability; if we remove it, claircognizance becomes an unconfirmed ability. The article would then have to be deleted, since the precedent is to create articles only for abilities that were demonstrated. Thoughts?--Referos 14:35, 26 January 2010 (EST)

  • That's quite the predicament. I think the example should definitely be removed, but I'm not sure whether the article should be deleted or not. I really wouldn't mind either way.--PJDEP - Need further explanation? 15:29, 26 January 2010 (EST)
    • I can't think of a single case where we kept an article for an unconfirmed ability. I'll go ahead and remove the example and add the AFD notice to see what others think.--Referos 15:44, 26 January 2010 (EST)
      • I agree, the article should be deleted. That doesn't mean we're saying Draph doesn't have the ability--we're just saying we don't have any solid examples of him using it. The page should be deleted. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:18, 26 January 2010 (EST)
        • Taking in consideration we'll probably don't see them again, could you also delete the abilities in this situation which have been moved to my namespace? It's boring to have them ready just in case they show up again. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:30, 26 January 2010 (EST)
          • you can put them in my namespace, just incase. --mc_hammark 18:05, 26 January 2010 (EST)