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I think it's confirmed in the online comic associated with the episode. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 09:56, 6 December 2006 (EST) |
I think it's confirmed in the online comic associated with the episode. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 09:56, 6 December 2006 (EST) |
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:Yeah, she's dead. She killed herself to prevent Sylar from taking her power. You're right, it is confirmed in the graphic novel [[Graphic_Novel:Fathers_and_Daughters|Fathers & Daughters]]. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 09:58, 6 December 2006 (EST)) |
:Yeah, she's dead. She killed herself to prevent Sylar from taking her power. You're right, it is confirmed in the graphic novel [[Graphic_Novel:Fathers_and_Daughters|Fathers & Daughters]]. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 09:58, 6 December 2006 (EST)) |
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== Eden's Power == |
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Poor, poor Eden... Alas, I pine. Anyway, I vote that we change Eden's power from "Suggestion" to "Persuasion" - that's what Sylar calls it, and I think it's so much more descriptive. Any opposition? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 23:46, 4 December 2006 (EST) |
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* The only times we see Eden attempt to ''persuade'' are times when she is avoiding her power. (After "Six Months Ago" and relearning self-control, and before Bennet demands she use her power again.) Her power is that she doesn't need persuasion or physical coercion to gain compliance for anything. I would agree with improving her power description on [[Eden|her own page]]. Arguably every woman has the power of persuasion, and the ability to suggest. In Eden's description, I'd...recommend replacing "Suggestion" with [http://www.bayn.org/psyche/mind-control.html Mental Dominance]. —[[User:Dreamcore|Dreamcore]] 12:15, 5 December 2006 (EST) |
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**Though mental dominance may describe Eden's power, I'm not sure it's specific enough to tell exactly what she does (um, ''did''). :) I still say "Persuasion" is the best bet. Maybe "Coercion". - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 21:11, 5 December 2006 (EST) |
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*** True, a problem with "mental dominance" is that it's a jargon term for parapsychology types. While more specific than it sounds, it probably won't get it across to most. Perhaps "Mind Control/Compliance". "Suggestive mind control"? Also, she wasn't shown communicating her commands in another way than aural/orally. "Coercion" or "persuasion" could work if qualified in some instant mental/psi/aural way. —[[User:Dreamcore|Dreamcore]] 20:14, 6 December 2006 (EST) |
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If we're going to change the format on the "Memorable Quotes" section, then we need to change it everywhere.--Hardvice (talk) 22:12, 18 November 2006 (EST)
Are we sure she's actually dead? Is there actual evidence that she's dead? --DrDuck 05:41, 6 December 2006 (EST)
I think it's confirmed in the online comic associated with the episode. --Ted C 09:56, 6 December 2006 (EST)
- Yeah, she's dead. She killed herself to prevent Sylar from taking her power. You're right, it is confirmed in the graphic novel Fathers & Daughters. (Admin 09:58, 6 December 2006 (EST))
Eden's Power
Poor, poor Eden... Alas, I pine. Anyway, I vote that we change Eden's power from "Suggestion" to "Persuasion" - that's what Sylar calls it, and I think it's so much more descriptive. Any opposition? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:46, 4 December 2006 (EST)
- The only times we see Eden attempt to persuade are times when she is avoiding her power. (After "Six Months Ago" and relearning self-control, and before Bennet demands she use her power again.) Her power is that she doesn't need persuasion or physical coercion to gain compliance for anything. I would agree with improving her power description on her own page. Arguably every woman has the power of persuasion, and the ability to suggest. In Eden's description, I'd...recommend replacing "Suggestion" with Mental Dominance. —Dreamcore 12:15, 5 December 2006 (EST)
- Though mental dominance may describe Eden's power, I'm not sure it's specific enough to tell exactly what she does (um, did). :) I still say "Persuasion" is the best bet. Maybe "Coercion". - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:11, 5 December 2006 (EST)
- True, a problem with "mental dominance" is that it's a jargon term for parapsychology types. While more specific than it sounds, it probably won't get it across to most. Perhaps "Mind Control/Compliance". "Suggestive mind control"? Also, she wasn't shown communicating her commands in another way than aural/orally. "Coercion" or "persuasion" could work if qualified in some instant mental/psi/aural way. —Dreamcore 20:14, 6 December 2006 (EST)
- Though mental dominance may describe Eden's power, I'm not sure it's specific enough to tell exactly what she does (um, did). :) I still say "Persuasion" is the best bet. Maybe "Coercion". - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:11, 5 December 2006 (EST)