Talk:Healing touch

Heal vs Cure

Cancer is not just an injury that can be repaired. It's an ongoing disease condition in which mutated cells reproduce in an uncontrolled fashion. To cure cancer, Austin had to stop the uncontrolled growth of cancer cells as well as repair the damage to his mother's liver. To my mind, cancer is a disease you have to cure, not just an injury you have to heal. --Ted C 16:47, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

• I know what cancer is, as having many family members with it. The reason why I reworded it was due to the nature of the narrative while the flashback occurred. He talked about organs failing, and how he healed them. In a way, he healed his mother by regrowing healthy cells versus cancer cells. For instance, research now in the field of "curing" cancer is regrowing healthy tissue instead of cancerous tissue, or organ cells instead of cancer cells, and removing the cancer cells. Again, the reason why I rephrased the description was because the ability is known as "healing", so I put it in terms of healing versus curing. Plus, who's to say that his mother was cured of cancer? She merely got better than her previous state, then he left. --Bob 16:56, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
  • Given that we don't anything about how Austin's mother fared after he left home, then, I don't have any further objection either way. --Ted C 17:03, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
  • I have tried to update the entry to reflect exactly what we know about th incident. --Ted C 17:06, 27 March 2007 (EDT)
    • Sounds like what I was trying to do. Good job.--Bob 18:59, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

Nidia's Mexican healer friend

• She explicitly said "I am a healer".
• She attempted to heal Maya in the same manner Linderman healed Heidi.
• As she attempted to use her healing power, Maya's "blackness" blocked the healing, in the same way, and with the same reaction and sound effects as when the Haitian blocks Matt's power.
• Her ability to know about Maya's blackness, and say noone could heal her, shows a understanding of healing, far greater than any 'fake' could be able to determine.--HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/1/2007 23:09 (EST)
  • While she did in fact say she was a healer, what she really said is that she's a curandera. That's her occupation, not necessarily her power.--Hardvice (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2007 (EDT)

When I watched that scene, the sound effects sounded like those when Matt Parkman uses telepathy. I got the impression from that scene and both the visual and audio cues that while she may be a healer, her power itself is more along the lines of telepathy. (Admin 23:11, 1 October 2007 (EDT))

• I thought telepathy, too. I doubt we'll find out anything more about her, and it's too speculative to say for sure. A note on her page at best. (Sounds like a good Behind the Eclipse question, though.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:06, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
  • Agreed. Her dialog could easily be thoughts Maya has on her ability (such as being filled with darkness that streams down from her eyes) and it sounds more like commentary than her actually identifying the problem. I think it's telepathy if anything.--Bob 00:08, 2 October 2007 (EDT)
    • I'll restate this again. Think about it carefully. There is no doubt, from the episode, that the Mexican woman used Telepathy. That power was not blocked. However, something else was blocked. Both of their reactions, as well as the sound-effects, showed something being blocked, while Telepath was working just fine. The lady specifically stated, "I am a healer". Exact Episodic quote. Then she took Maya's hands, and began to attempt to heal her, in the exact manner that Linderman began to heal Heidi. Only then, was a power blocked. And it wasn't Telepathy being blocked, she continued to use telepathy. None of her telepathic statements were ever cut-off, or blocked, or prevented. Based solely on what happened in that scene, and what was said in that seen, and how other episodic scenes in the past have dealt with those similar powers, this Mexican lady is both what she claimed to be, "I am a healer, and based on her results, "a telepath...a telepathic healer. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/2/2007 11:39 (EST)

Notes

• We have a couple entries in the Notes section about people who were called "healers", but haven't demonstrated any specific ability related to the power of Healing as it's being documented here. I think they should be removed, any other thoughts? (Admin 09:45, 2 October 2007 (EDT))
  • While the scene with the Mexican healer did show more characteristics of telepathy, she specifically called herself a healer, and went through the same initial motions to heal Maya that Linderman did to heal Heidi. For me, trying to be the least speculative, it appeared that she showed two powers, Healing, (albeit claimed and attempted but not succeeded), and Telepathy. Maya's ability did not stop or block her Telepathy, because she was able to use it. The only blocking that occurred, was on her Healing power. If the only power she held was Telepathy only, then she wouldn't have gotten any readings, and we wouldn't even know she had telepathy because it wouldn't have worked if it were being blocked. Maya's ability blocked something, by her reaction, and by the blocking-sound effects. The only other power stated in the show, was Healing. "I am a healer". As cannonistically direct from the episode as it possibly could be. Maya's power didn't block Telepathy, it blocked Healing. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 10/2/2007 11:33 (EST)
    • The audio/visual effects were similar to Matt Parkman's when he uses his telepathy normally. So it does seem she used at least some version of telepathy to get an idea of what was wrong with Maya. But just because she calls herself a healer isn't nearly enough evidence to say she has the Healing special ability. It doesn't look like Maya's power blocked anything, the healer was just frightened by what she learned about Maya's power. In terms of canon, all that can be interpreted from that episode is that the womain claims to be a healer, not that she has the Healing special ability. Even as a note, this is misleading. (Admin 11:38, 2 October 2007 (EDT))