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It's ironic that a page dedicated to incidents of rape exists, yet no page for murder or any other crime... --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 16:50, 15 May 2009 (EDT) |
It's ironic that a page dedicated to incidents of rape exists, yet no page for murder or any other crime... --[[User:Lolwut|Lolwut]] 16:50, 15 May 2009 (EDT) |
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*There a page for [[death]], and many victim pages. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:51, 15 May 2009 (EDT) |
*There a page for [[death]], and many victim pages. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 16:51, 15 May 2009 (EDT) |
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**Lolwut brought this to my attention on my talk page, so I instructed Lolwut to add an afd so it can be discussed and he has done so. I think rape is more an [[:Category:Events|event]] than a reference. Also, since there has only been one actual rape (Eric Doyle's), that info. can be placed on the [[Women in Refrigerators]] page and this page deleted until there are more. Since we don't normally list near-death cases on the death page, it makes sense not to list near-rape cases on the rapes page. I realize rape is a touchy issue (pun not intended), so |
**Lolwut brought this to my attention on my talk page, so I instructed Lolwut to add an afd so it can be discussed and he has done so. I think rape is more an [[:Category:Events|event]] than a reference. Also, since there has only been one actual rape (Eric Doyle's), that info. can be placed on the [[Women in Refrigerators]] page and this page deleted until there are more. Since we don't normally list near-death cases on the death page, it makes sense not to list near-rape cases on the rapes page. I realize rape is a touchy issue (pun not intended), so this article might warrant remaining for that reason, but I think some discussion would be good.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 16:58, 15 May 2009 (EDT) |
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Wasn't she actually raped?
I've been rather confused on this matter. That coroner or whoever said Claire's body was pulled from Red River Creek, found naked and dragged. While removal of clothes could be to delay the identification of her body, that still highly suggests to me that she was likely raped after she died. She wasn't examined for signs of rape and, not being female, I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is for a girl to tell if she's been violated like such, especially after what Claire's been through. But I'd thought that Brody likely had raped her because he stripped her nude before abandoning her, and that Claire and her dad only had the idea that Brody tried to.. or that Claire did know better but only chose to tell her dad that he tried to force her.
Thus all this time, I've thought that Claire had been rather charitable even when ramming his car straight into a wall, or especially charitable when she decided to apologize to him with the whole two-wrongs-don't-make-a-right bit (which is true and with which I agree, but then all this time I've just been considering Brody the lowest kind of filth who got much much better than he deserved). So was there evidence that Brody didn't actually rape Claire's body and I just missed it? --Glue 05:33, 14 February 2007 (EST)
- To answer one question, rape kits nowadays are very advanced in detecting whether or not a woman has been raped. As for whether or not Claire was actually raped, that's unconfirmed. We don't know whether Brody stripped Claire, or whether her clothes were shredded while being dragged, if the water currents washed her clothes away, or if something else happened entirely. Brody is scum, but I just don't seem him as a necrophiliac. I think he rapes more as a matter of circumstance than a matter of perverse fetish and addiction. Though definitely a depraved young man, I don't think he's such a predator that he would rape a girl after he accidentally killed her. That said, there's no way to know for sure.
I'd have to go back and watch the episode and read the GN for a specific mention of "almost" or "tried" or another revealing word. But in the end, I think the writers may have purposely left it somewhat ambiguous. This was not a Boys Don't Cry-style rape, it's meant for television where young viewers sometimes watch. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:09, 14 February 2007 (EST)
Is Knox the rapist?
Angela Stated that level 5 contained Rapists. I was wondering if, Knox's ability is strength enhanced via fear,he could use the huge amount of fear the act of rape would create in his victim, to increase his strength. Just my musings on it. Nothing to actually back it up. He is just the only one who could benefit (for want of a better word) from abusing his victims. --Ronin 10:59, 28 September 2008(GMT)
- This is pure speculation. Chrisyu357 07:52, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
- It's good speculation...but remember that Angela said that in the scrapped second half of Season Two (which also featured Level 5 prisoners), not in any aired episodes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:23, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
- I think that it was Flint--Cj31094 12:39, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
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It's ironic that a page dedicated to incidents of rape exists, yet no page for murder or any other crime... --Lolwut 16:50, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
- There a page for death, and many victim pages. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 16:51, 15 May 2009 (EDT)
- Lolwut brought this to my attention on my talk page, so I instructed Lolwut to add an afd so it can be discussed and he has done so. I think rape is more an event than a reference. Also, since there has only been one actual rape (Eric Doyle's), that info. can be placed on the Women in Refrigerators page and this page deleted until there are more. Since we don't normally list near-death cases on the death page, it makes sense not to list near-rape cases on the rapes page. I realize rape is a touchy issue (pun not intended), so this article might warrant remaining for that reason, but I think some discussion would be good.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:58, 15 May 2009 (EDT)