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*My perception of clairvoyance was always an ability to know something was going on at that particular moment, and I'm not one who's well researched on paranormal, nor do I look these names up. Instead, I like to go with what most people know (the stuff seen on Jamaican psychic nightlines). Personally, clairvoyance shows what Molly did in Landslide: see a person at that particular moment and know what was happening with that individual, including their location. The Company used her as a tracking system, but that doesn't mean her ability is limited to knowing '''just''' the location of the person, but any number of things. The episode shows her thinking of Matt, and a) his current/most recent location, b) actually seeing him, and c) being able to know, on a map, where he is. Clairvoyance, to me, sustains the examples shown in the show.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 02:56, 17 May 2007 (EDT) |
*My perception of clairvoyance was always an ability to know something was going on at that particular moment, and I'm not one who's well researched on paranormal, nor do I look these names up. Instead, I like to go with what most people know (the stuff seen on Jamaican psychic nightlines). Personally, clairvoyance shows what Molly did in Landslide: see a person at that particular moment and know what was happening with that individual, including their location. The Company used her as a tracking system, but that doesn't mean her ability is limited to knowing '''just''' the location of the person, but any number of things. The episode shows her thinking of Matt, and a) his current/most recent location, b) actually seeing him, and c) being able to know, on a map, where he is. Clairvoyance, to me, sustains the examples shown in the show.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 02:56, 17 May 2007 (EDT) |
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*I agree with Addude. The power Molly demonstrates is closer to remote viewing than to general "clairevoyance". ''Remote Viewing is the purported ability for a viewer to gather information on a remote target consisting of an object, place, or person, etc., that is hidden from the physical perception of the viewer and typically separated from the viewer at some distance.''--[[User:Skener47|Skener47]] 14:19, 17 May 2007 (EDT) |
*I agree with Addude. The power Molly demonstrates is closer to remote viewing than to general "clairevoyance". ''Remote Viewing is the purported ability for a viewer to gather information on a remote target consisting of an object, place, or person, etc., that is hidden from the physical perception of the viewer and typically separated from the viewer at some distance.''--[[User:Skener47|Skener47]] 14:19, 17 May 2007 (EDT) |
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**The [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clairvoyance dictionary definition] of "clairvoyance" is almost the same: ''1- the power or faculty of discerning objects not present to the senses, 2- the ability to perceive matters beyond the range of ordinary perception''. Clairvoyance is a somewhat more familiar term. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 14:29, 17 May 2007 (EDT) |
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I would prefer to rename this Clairvoyance, but will await further discussion. --Ted C 10:58, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- Clairvoyance is a better term, but doesnt that imply visions that happen in the past? Like Sanjog Iyler? If not, then yeah my vote goes with Clairvoyance --Piemanmoo 11:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- Clairvoyance is generally regarded as the ability to see things happening far away. Merriam-Webster defines it as "1- the power or faculty of discerning objects not present to the senses, 2- ability to perceive matters beyond the range of ordinary perception." Molly could apparently see brief glimpses of Matt that told her where he was. --Ted C 11:06, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- My understanding of clairvoyance (or "clear seeing") is that it includes knowledge beyond just knowing someone's location. However, when it comes to the powers, I tend to defer to Ted. Clairvoyance is not my favorite name, but it's not a bad description. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:08, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- Move made. "Clairvoyance" is just so much more familiar a term to most people that I think it's much more useful. --Ted C 11:12, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- My understanding of clairvoyance (or "clear seeing") is that it includes knowledge beyond just knowing someone's location. However, when it comes to the powers, I tend to defer to Ted. Clairvoyance is not my favorite name, but it's not a bad description. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:08, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- As a note, postcognition and precognition are powers which are time-specific (seeing the past and future respectively) but leave the question of range open. "Clarvoyance" implies seeing at a distance but leaves the question of time open. A postcog, for example, most usually sees events that happened earlier in their current location or to a particular object, but a clairvoyant postcog could also have visions about past events in other locations.--Hardvice (talk) 14:46, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- Clairvoyance is generally regarded as the ability to see things happening far away. Merriam-Webster defines it as "1- the power or faculty of discerning objects not present to the senses, 2- ability to perceive matters beyond the range of ordinary perception." Molly could apparently see brief glimpses of Matt that told her where he was. --Ted C 11:06, 15 May 2007 (EDT)
- I want to through into the ring that we change it to remote viewing, she saw matt from far away and was able to establish a lication, for better desription check the discussion on molly--Addude 00:45, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
- My perception of clairvoyance was always an ability to know something was going on at that particular moment, and I'm not one who's well researched on paranormal, nor do I look these names up. Instead, I like to go with what most people know (the stuff seen on Jamaican psychic nightlines). Personally, clairvoyance shows what Molly did in Landslide: see a person at that particular moment and know what was happening with that individual, including their location. The Company used her as a tracking system, but that doesn't mean her ability is limited to knowing just the location of the person, but any number of things. The episode shows her thinking of Matt, and a) his current/most recent location, b) actually seeing him, and c) being able to know, on a map, where he is. Clairvoyance, to me, sustains the examples shown in the show.--Bob 02:56, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
- I agree with Addude. The power Molly demonstrates is closer to remote viewing than to general "clairevoyance". Remote Viewing is the purported ability for a viewer to gather information on a remote target consisting of an object, place, or person, etc., that is hidden from the physical perception of the viewer and typically separated from the viewer at some distance.--Skener47 14:19, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
- The dictionary definition of "clairvoyance" is almost the same: 1- the power or faculty of discerning objects not present to the senses, 2- the ability to perceive matters beyond the range of ordinary perception. Clairvoyance is a somewhat more familiar term. --Ted C 14:29, 17 May 2007 (EDT)