Talk:List of evolved humans

Shanti

I think we're making a big leap calling Shanti Suresh an evolved human. Her father said she had a "genetic anomaly" that started him on his research, but that doesn't mean she had whatever mutation results in superhuman powers. She may have had a well-known genetic disorder that lead to her death. We definitely don't know enough about her to list her as an evolved human. --Ted C 15:55, 24 January 2007 (EST)

Inclusion of Shanti doesn't cause any harm at this point.

We have more info on her specific to a 'genetic anomoly' that most people on the computer list.

Chandra himself quoted her as having a 1) 'genetic anomoly' and 2) another reference says she was 'special' and 3) Chandra goes as far as saying "My hope is that no one will suffer as she did.", which goes about as close to saying she had some type of power that brought about her death, without specifically saying what it was. If she didn't have a true power, and her death was simply inert, then none of those 3 points would be worth noting.

At least by including her in the list with the power listed as 'genetic anomoly' it is recorded. If the show ever returns to expand on her past, and theres a good chance it will with the continued influence of Chandra, Mohinder, and Sanjong, this entry isn't without merit.--HiroSynoSlayer

However, it's completely unsupported at this time. We have to treat as canon only what's aired, and to date, all we know is that she had a "genetic anomaly". That could be Down's syndrome for all we know. Including Shanti on a list of evolved humans, when we define "evolved humans" as those with superpowers, is pure speculation.--Hardvice (talk) 16:17, 24 January 2007 (EST)

"Genetic anomaly" is not a power, nor is being "special". So far, there is no evidence that Shanti was an evolved human. So far, all we know is that she had some kind of genetic mutation or abnormality that was linked to her death. As I said, it could have been a well-known genetic disorder. Her condition was important because it was the motivation for Chandra's genetic research, but there is no indication that it was related to the genetic condition that creates superpowers. --Ted C 16:18, 24 January 2007 (EST)

It's not pure speculation....the show's premise is that folks on it with 'genetic anomolies' have powers....it isn't a show about gentic anomolied Down's syndrome people.

Name any example from the show where other people are identified with 'genetic anomolies' of any kind that isn't related to a power.

Shanti's power is simple not-yet stated, like many other folks on the lists, journals, map, etc.

Take it out if you want to be adamant about it, but there is enough reasonable evidence given for her inclusion. -- HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 16:24, 24 January 2007 (EST)

Shanti has not exhibited powers and is not an evolved human, though she did have a genetic anomoly. Micah was not considered an EH until after he exhibited his powers. Claire would not have been an evolved human before she exhibited her powers either. If we put Shanti on the list, we may as well speculate that Monty and Simon Petrelli belong on the list because they're the sons and nephews of evolved humans. It's all speculation. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:28, 24 January 2007 (EST)

The possibility that Shanti was an evolved human is noted on the appropriate character page. That's all the evidence warrants at this time. --Ted C 16:32, 24 January 2007 (EST)

Niki

I went ahead and changed Niki's power to "Unknown" since we've seen no confirmed instances of her using enhanced strength.--Hardvice (talk) 20:08, 22 January 2007 (EST)

Yeah, I struggled with that one. I completely agree with you - I just decided to go ahead with what's already listed on her page. Thanks for the change. ... I thought about making her power "Alter Ego", just to see if I could get you riled up. :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:12, 22 January 2007 (EST)

You know me all too well.--Hardvice (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2007 (EST)

Moot point, now, I guess, eh? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2007 (EST)

Distinguish Between Show, Map, and List

I think we need to somehow distinguish between names on this list. It looks odd to have 23 names in the category, and then a million and one names on this table. I suggest we color code the names in a very basic way. Perhaps black for those that are in the episodes/GNs (Charlie, Claire, David Berman, etc.), green for those names that come from the list (Felipe, Abu, etc.), and blue for those that come from NBC's map (Byron, Penkala, etc.) A person not familiar with the list, or especially with the 360 map, can be very confused coming to this page. "Who the heck is Felipe?" "What is a temptress?" (especially since there's no article on them, and no other easily attainable information). Any thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:20, 24 January 2007 (EST)

• Something is defiantly needed, the colors could work, but what about the links and those who are from multiple places? Another thing that could be added is a source column. --Level 14:33, 24 January 2007 (EST)