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Talk:Portal:Abilities

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SO I was getting set to take Peter and Sylar off all the powers, and it just occurred to me that's gonna leave "cryokinesis" as "unknown" again, which seems wrong since there is a known user. Any ideas on how to make it clearer within the portal that we're listing only the original character? --Hardvice (talk) 14:57, 20 February 2007

  • How about just a big disclaimer at the top that says "Only original holders of powers are listed. Those that have duplicated powers are not listed here." — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2007 (EST)

Engineer

  • Any reason not to include the Engineer as an example of induced radioactivity even though he never actually aired? We do have articles on him plus the unaired episode is supposed to be included on the season one dvd set when it comes out. (Admin 12:47, 5 March 2007 (EST))
    • Mostly to clean up the page. Every other power only lists one person per power. Plus, since he's a cut character, it's kind of an iffy judgment call. If you want to put him back, that's fine. I was just trying to streamline the page and follow suit with how he is now listed on induced radioactivity (in the notes). — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Superfluous space

Right now, only "Space-time manipulation" and "Electronic data transception" are taking up more than one line for the power name. It would look a lot more succinct, I think, if we shortened these two names and took out extra whitespace. We could change Hana's power (on this page only) to just "Data transception". I know it's not as descriptive, but it's just for this page, and it will link to the full description on Electronic data transception.... Hiro's power is a bit more tricky -- we could use one of his shorter power names ("teleportation" or "time travel" for instance). I know that's very limiting, but again, it's just for this page. We could also just put "Space-time", or "Bending space-time" might fit too.... Or we can just leave the big cells as they are. Thoughts? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:49, 5 March 2007 (EST)

  • I like it as is. It doesn't really bother me that they take up two lines, and calling Hiro's power "Teleportation" or "Time Travel" even just on this page would be a lot worse in my opinion.--Hardvice (talk) 13:01, 5 March 2007 (EST)
    • It kind of bugs me that there's so much space, but I'll deal. I agree, though, I can't think of a good solution for Hiro's power. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:46, 5 March 2007 (EST)

Examples variable

Weird. I didn't think there was an examples variable anymore, but the examples link was just not showing up for me. I added it "examples=" and it showed up in the preview. When I took it off, the examples link was gone. It's showing up now, so it's kinda moot ... but weird, eh? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:31, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

  • Since the content of the page itself didn't change--just the results of one of the templates--it probably just showed you the cached page. It saw no edits to the page or its included templates and assumed that was correct.--Hardvice (talk) 14:55, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
    • ...but it went back after I took it off, which is the part that really gets me. ... Are you saying I just need to do a shift-F5 cache to see it? I'll try that next time. Thanks. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Well, yes, that is weird. Still, there's two separate caches going on; Mediawiki caches the generated pages (which I don't really know much about, except that it can create issues with randomized content) and your browser caches visited pages. I'd imagine it's just a combination of the two, though I'd be hard pressed to come up with an explanation.--Hardvice (talk) 15:44, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

Oneiromancy

Sorry if I'm bringing up something that has already been resolved. But shouldn't Peter's dreams be treated somewhere besides "Empathic Mimicry"? Even though they aren't perfect precognitions, they still seem to convey knowledge to him via extra-sensory means. In addition, it seems like Charles Devaux exhibited the same ability. And since that occurrence is the only canonical evidence of Devaux being an evolved human, there should be a place for it, especially since the groundwork is being laid for the audience to learn about his significance in earlier developments regarding evolved humans. The term "oneiromancy" applies more the ability to interpret dreams prophectically than the ability to have prophetic dreams. But I think it covers both. And it might be a good way to capture what Peter does and what Devaux did without causing confusion between that and Isaac's precognition.--E rowe 18:06, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

  • Don't be sorry, you have legitimate questions. Peter's visions are mentioned briefly on empathic mimicry--I personally don't think they should be there, but I'm not so objected to them there, so I haven't removed them. There hasn't really been much talk about it--this is all I could find. His dreams are dealt with in much more depth on the Peter's visions article. As for the part about Charles Deveaux, I would say it sounds very reasonable, but it's still a theory or a spoiler. Does that answer your question? — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:25, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
  • My thoughts about oneiromancy--isn't that more of a practice that people actually use today, and less of a superpower? To me, it would be like saying somebody who can predict the future based on the stars has the power of "astrology". I'm not sure that oneiromancy is a power, but rather an actual system or study (no matter how dubious it may be). — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
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