File talk:Betty4 aftermath3.jpg

Symbol

I'm not seeing it. I don't even see Gumby. -- Lulu (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2008 (EST)

• I agree. It's "missing" part of the top half. --Ice Vision (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2008 (EST)
  • Should I upload a highlighted version? If you're trying to trace it, make sure to include the wires.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:52, 27 February 2008 (EST)
    • That may be helpful. I'm not seeing it either and examples of The Symbol so far have been very obvious. (Admin 22:51, 27 February 2008 (EST))
      • Ok, here's a highlighted version:
        
        The Symbol is in green.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:49, 27 February 2008 (EST)
        • That's a pretty big stretch. There's no actual S shape to the image itself (despite the green line attempting to suggest otherwise) and looking at the other telephone pole it seems much more likely that it's just a telephone pole drawn in the distance. Symbol appearances have always been well-defined and this one doesn't appear to pass scrutiny. (Admin 23:54, 27 February 2008 (EST))
          • Agreed. Artists/effects like to sprinkle the symbol through out episodes/novels, but generally speaking, it's fairly obvious that it's there. Sometimes a telephone poll and its wires are just a telephone pole with coincidentally placed wires. -- Lulu (talk) 00:10, 28 February 2008 (EST)
          • Ok, though looking at Image:Kanji_godsend_great_talent.JPG and Image:Symbol bookcase wreckage.jpg, I had thought the curving wasn't required. I guess when you stare at the sunset long enough, you begin to see things that aren't really there. ;)--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:15, 28 February 2008 (EST)
            • I know what you mean, that tree in the middle is starting to look like a sheep to me! Goodness! -- Lulu (talk) 00:20, 28 February 2008 (EST)
              • Yeah, kinda, though it kind of reminds me more of an ape or gorilla. BTW, I updated the image highlight to match the same outline as Image:Symbol bookcase wreckage.jpg since that symbol isn't curved.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:38, 28 February 2008 (EST)
            • You're right, it looks like the bookcase example you referenced is an obvious example where it's not curved, so I guess that's not a requirement, though it definitely helps. :) One of the main things going against it is that it's not a conspicuous formation, but rather a relatively common structure. You know... I could actually buy that it's a direct reference not to The Symbol, but rather one or both of the kanji images you referenced. The similarity is pretty striking to me, though it could still be coincidence. Ryan Odagawa might be willing to answer that question and even definitively say one way or the other. (Admin 01:22, 28 February 2008 (EST))
              • Good idea. RGS interviewed him in June 2007, and afterwards RGS mentioned Odagawa was quite busy and rushed. I'll remember to add it to the list of questions if he agrees to a second interview.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:57, 28 February 2008 (EST)
                • Ryan Odagawa is always very explicit with me about Easter Eggs he hides in the novels. He never mentioned even a hint of the Symbol. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:48, 28 February 2008 (EST)
                  • Right. Usually, if you have to highlight or outline it to show people, it's too far-fetched. --Ice Vision (talk) 14:57, 28 February 2008 (EST)