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| [[West]] is the [[hooded killer|hooded individual]] who killed [[Kaito]]. || None || |
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{{plus}} When [[West]] looked in Claire's window before he flew away, he wore a similar sweatshirt, with an unzipped hood, to that worn by the killer before he attacked [[Kaito]]. |
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{{plus}} Like [[Nathan]], [[West]] has the ability to fly. A reasonable explanation for the disappearance of the hooded killer after he dragged [[Kaito]] off the roof is that he flew away before hitting the ground.<br> |
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:{{plus}} This possibility is strongly implied in ''[[Lizards]]'', when [[Detective Fuller]] says that either the killer fell along with [[Kaito]] 20 feet to the ground, got up, and walked away, or he '''flew''' off. |
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:{{minus}} The killer could simply have used another power to survive the fall, such as a healing ability. This is possible, as there is more than one person to an ability (Kensei and Claire can both heal, for example). |
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{{plus}} [[West]] and the hooded killer have similar physiques. |
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{{plus}} [[West]] is an evolved human, so his parents might be evolved humans as well, and they might be connected to the group of elder evolved humans. [[Kaito]] mentioned that one of the elders could be connected to the assassinations, so it could be West's parents, sending him to kill [[Kaito]], or [[West]] himself trying to avenge the possible death of his parents. |
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:{{minus}} The ages of the original 12 (from what we have seen) seem to be in the mid to late 60's, so it would be unlikely that they had a 16-year-old child. |
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:{{note}} [[West]] may be one of the older generation of heroes. Before [[Kaito]] was killed he said "Of all of them, I never thought it would be you." This suggests that the killer was one of the older generation of heroes (but doesn't do anything to disprove this theory, as the killer looked as young as West). |
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:{{note}} If this theory is true, then it is possible that West has multiple powers, as he was able to travel from California to New York in a short length of time, and appears to be a teenager, despite [[Kaito]]'s statement indicating the killer was one of the older generation of heroes. |
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::{{note}} West may simply be able to fly at supersonic speeds, like [[Nathan Petrelli|Nathan]] can. |
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{{minus}} Some clues during the season premiere suggest that the hooded killer might be [[Nathan]], but the clues seem to be too obvious, possibly indicating that [[Tim Kring]] is trying to misdirect viewers. |
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{{plus}} In ''[[Kindred]]'', Mohinder discovers one of Isaac's paintings which depicts [[Noah]]'s death. In the background of the painting, Claire can be seen kissing a man hidden in the shadows. It is likely that this man is West. |
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:{{plus}} West has already somewhat gained Claire's sympathy by telling her about Noah abducting him when he was younger. It is possible that he could turn her against her own father, hence why Claire is kissing West (assuming the man in the shadows is indeed West) over Noah's dead body in Isaac Mendez's painting. |
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:{{plus}} When West was chasing down Debbie in "The Line", he bore a striking resemblance to the hooded killer. |
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| [[West]] is working for [[Angela]] and/or the [[Company]]. || None || {{plus}} West's power is flight. Angela knows [[Claire]] would relate to a boy her age with her biological father's ability.<br> {{plus}} In ''Kindred'', we see a scar on West's neck, like those of other evolved humans taken by the company; West could have made a deal to work for them, like [[Eden]].<br>{{plus}} Taking orders from the Company would be too "robotic" for him. |
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| ⚫ | | West is a [[wikipedia:sociopath|sociopath]] and possible [[wikipedia:Solipsism|solipsist]]. || He displayed many characteristics of a sociopath b the way he watched people in ''[[Graphic Novel:Flying Blind|Flying Blind]]''. || {{plus}} He refers to himself as a breed apart from humanity. While others with abilities try to retain their humanity, characters like West and Sylar revel in their separateness and superiority.<br /> |
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| West has multiple powers. Notably, [[enhanced hearing]] and reflexes in addition to [[flight]]. || None ||{{Plus}} Reflexes: He was able to brake on split second notice when Claire stepped in front of his car. |
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:{{minus}} That is like saying that an African American who embraces his cultural heritage is a racist. Just because he enjoys being special doesn't make him a monster.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}It does not take superhuman abilities to quickly step on the brakes. Also, it isn't hard to notice a person who is front of you. |
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{{plus}} His observations on the two types of humans (robots and aliens) are snide. West probably doesn't have much love for humans. His disgust does not originate from injustice (like being picked on), but because he sees himself as superior.<br /> |
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{{Plus}} Hearing: When Claire cried out after breaking her leg in the [[Episode:Four Months Later|first episode]], he appeared almost immediately, as if he has heard her and came to help. |
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:{{minus}} He used the "alien" and the "robot" as a metaphor, meaning its not exactly what he meant. What he meant is, if you are an "alien", meaning you do whatever you, no one tells you what to do. And "robot" if you are being controlled by the people around you i.e. your parents; because robots are being controlled.<br /> |
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:{{minus}}West has been "stalking" Claire a lot, so it isn't unusual that West appears after Claire jumps. |
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{{plus}} He has also demonstrated obsessive tendencies, in stalking and spying on Claire.<br /> |
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{{Minus}}Only [[Empathic mimicry|empaths]] and [[Sylar]] have been shown to use more than one power.<br> |
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{{minus}} Sociopaths are incapable of feeling any attachment to -or empathy for- others. He obviously liked Claire, and expressed sadness and remorse when they broke up. A sociopath wouldn't feel sad if his girlfriend broke up with him; he would be angry at her (and probably plan revenge).<br /> |
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{{minus}} A solipsist would find having a relationship almost impossible. They are incapable of figuring out the motives and beliefs behind the actions of others.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | West knew about Claire's powers before seeing her cut off her toe. || West left a copy of ''[[Activating Evolution]]'' at Claire's house after seeing her cut off her toe. (''[[Lizards]]'') || {{plus}} If West were "stalking" Claire out of mere lust or romantic interest, he would have no reason to carry ''[[Activating Evolution]]'' with him.<br /> |
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| [[Nathan Petrelli]] is the biological father of West. || None || {{plus}} They both have the power of flight. |
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{{minus}} He may carry the book around because he is reading it to study his own ability.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Other parent/child relationships have yet to show any powers shared. |
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{{plus}} West showed up almost immediately after Claire jumped off the "tower", injured herself, and regenerated (''[[Four Months Later]]''). He could have seen her power then.<br /> |
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:{{note}}[[Claire]] is Nathan's daughter, but she cannot fly. |
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:{{minus}} Perhaps he carried the book because she was talking about regenerating organs for transplant like a lizard grows its tail like he said he was doing in the following conversation.<br /> |
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::{{minus}}[[Matt Parkman]] and his [[Maury_Parkman|father]] share [[telepathy]] ([[Fight or Flight|''Fight or Flight'']]). |
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{{minus}}It is unlikely that West and Claire would be written in kissing each other if they were siblings. |
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:{{plus}}However, in ''[[Star Wars]]'', Luke and Leia kiss twice even though they later find out they are brother and sister, so some precedent would exist. |
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| ⚫ | | West will become a villain. || West uses his and Claire's powers to play a prank on [[Debbie Marshall|Debbie]] and get her suspended. (''[[The Line]]'') || {{plus}} West has shown he is willing to use his powers for petty and even harmful goals. This sets him apart from characters who use their powers for harmless or unselfish purposes.<br /> |
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| West was not kidnapped by [[Mr. Bennet]] (and the [[Haitian]]). || None || {{plus}} People who were kidnapped by Mr. Bennet do not remember anything about the kidnapping, but West remembers that he was kidnapped by a man with horn-rimmed glasses. West may have made this up so [[Claire]] wouldn't tell her father about him. |
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:{{minus}} Both Matt and Ted remembered a little of their respective kidnappings; they particularly remember the Haitian. |
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| ⚫ | {{plus}} In the episode commentary for ''[[The Line]]'', the writers explain that West views his powers as making him separate from and above humanity (in the scene where he tells Claire that he doesn't really care what his parents think, because he can fly). The belief that superpowered people are superior to normal people is a common theme for comic book villains.<br /> |
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{{Plus}} [[Bob]] is also affiliated with [[the Company]] and also wears horn-rimmed glasses, so he may be the person West remembers.<br>{{plus}}West has been spying on Claire's house and it is likely he has seen Noah. If Noah were the same man with horn-rimmed glasses, West would have taken action somehow. |
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:{{minus}} In scientific terms, evolved humans ''are'' superior. They possess capabilities beyond that of ''homo sapiens'', and are the next step in humanity's evolution.<br /> |
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{{plus}} In the episode commentary for ''The Line'', the writers describe Claire's participation in West's scheme as ultimately self-destructive for Claire.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} This may have simply been referring to Claire's use of her power for frivolous/self-serving purposes (which exposes her to being tracked by the Company), rather than her involvement with West.<br /> |
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{{minus}} In an interview on G4 TV, when asked if West was a potential villain, Jack Coleman mentions that many fans are jumping to conclusions regarding West's character.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} That doesn't mean that they haven't jumped to the correct conclusion.<br /> |
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| [[West]] is the son of [[Adam Monroe]]. || None || {{minus}} Adam said that he was locked up for the last 30 years.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | West is a [[wikipedia:sociopath|sociopath]] and possible [[wikipedia:Solipsism| |
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:{{note}} Adam apparently slept with Elle at some point during his captivity. Although we don't know if anything came of it, it's a possibility...<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Elle is 24. West is 16 or 17. This would mean that Elle gave birth to West when she was seven or eight, and that Adam committed statutory rape.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | West knew about Claire's powers before seeing her cut off her toe || West left a copy of ''[[Activating Evolution]]'' at Claire's house after seeing her cut off her toe. (''[[Lizards]]'') || {{plus}} If West were "stalking" Claire out of mere lust or romantic interest, he would have no reason to carry ''[[Activating Evolution]]'' with him.<br> |
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{{minus}} West shows disdain for his parents because ''he'' has powers, implying that his parents don't.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} This only means his parents have no ''known'' powers.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | West will become a villain || West uses his and Claire's powers to play a prank on [[Debbie]] and get her suspended (''[[The Line]]'') |
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:{{plus}} Adoption is common in Heroes, his parents may not really be his parents.<br /> |
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{{note}} This would be "inverse" power heredity compared to Claire. West would be the flying son of a regenerative man, while Claire would be the regenerative daughter of a flying man.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | {{plus}} In the episode commentary for ''[[The Line]]'', the writers explain that West views his powers as making him separate from and above humanity (in the scene where he tells Claire that he doesn't really care what his parents think, because he can fly). |
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{{note}} Claire and West could have been "switched at birth". This would make Claire Adam's child and West Nathan's. This may not be an unlikely incident for the Company to pull off.<br /> |
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:{{note}} The Company does not purposely strive to make things confusing. There doesn't seem to be a motive for switching them at birth.<br/> |
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{{plus}} The names "Adam" and "West" combine to form the name of an actor famous for playing Batman on TV - a sly comic book reference?<br /> |
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:{{minus}} It could be a coincidence as well.<br /> |
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| Everything bad that happened in [[Season Three]] was West's fault. || If he hadn't have forced his way into Claire's life, he wouldn't have talked her into playing that prank on [[Debbie Marshall]], the Company wouldn't have found out where Claire was, they wouldn't have taken her blood, Sylar wouldn't have taken the blood from Mohinder. He wouldn't have taken Claire's ability to get his ability back, he wouldn't have gone to the company, he wouldn't have attacked Elle, and the Level 5 inmates would not have been released. || {{plus}} The only reason the company found out where Claire was is because of the newspaper article about Debbie Marshall.<br /> |
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:{{note}} It wouldn't have happened if West had left Claire alone like she first told him to.<br /> |
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| Theory | Citations | Notes |
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| West is a sociopath and possible solipsist. | He displayed many characteristics of a sociopath b the way he watched people in Flying Blind. | + He refers to himself as a breed apart from humanity. While others with abilities try to retain their humanity, characters like West and Sylar revel in their separateness and superiority.
+ His observations on the two types of humans (robots and aliens) are snide. West probably doesn't have much love for humans. His disgust does not originate from injustice (like being picked on), but because he sees himself as superior.
+ He has also demonstrated obsessive tendencies, in stalking and spying on Claire. |
| West knew about Claire's powers before seeing her cut off her toe. | West left a copy of Activating Evolution at Claire's house after seeing her cut off her toe. (Lizards) | + If West were "stalking" Claire out of mere lust or romantic interest, he would have no reason to carry Activating Evolution with him. - He may carry the book around because he is reading it to study his own ability.
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| West will become a villain. | West uses his and Claire's powers to play a prank on Debbie and get her suspended. (The Line) | + West has shown he is willing to use his powers for petty and even harmful goals. This sets him apart from characters who use their powers for harmless or unselfish purposes.
+ In the episode commentary for The Line, the writers explain that West views his powers as making him separate from and above humanity (in the scene where he tells Claire that he doesn't really care what his parents think, because he can fly). The belief that superpowered people are superior to normal people is a common theme for comic book villains.
+ In the episode commentary for The Line, the writers describe Claire's participation in West's scheme as ultimately self-destructive for Claire.
- In an interview on G4 TV, when asked if West was a potential villain, Jack Coleman mentions that many fans are jumping to conclusions regarding West's character.
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| West is the son of Adam Monroe. | None | - Adam said that he was locked up for the last 30 years.
- West shows disdain for his parents because he has powers, implying that his parents don't.
• This would be "inverse" power heredity compared to Claire. West would be the flying son of a regenerative man, while Claire would be the regenerative daughter of a flying man.
+ The names "Adam" and "West" combine to form the name of an actor famous for playing Batman on TV - a sly comic book reference?
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| Everything bad that happened in Season Three was West's fault. | If he hadn't have forced his way into Claire's life, he wouldn't have talked her into playing that prank on Debbie Marshall, the Company wouldn't have found out where Claire was, they wouldn't have taken her blood, Sylar wouldn't have taken the blood from Mohinder. He wouldn't have taken Claire's ability to get his ability back, he wouldn't have gone to the company, he wouldn't have attacked Elle, and the Level 5 inmates would not have been released. | + The only reason the company found out where Claire was is because of the newspaper article about Debbie Marshall.
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