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Not a big deal, but I just wanted to list my initial reasoning somewhere. I was under the impression that [[Ando]] interpreted his death scene in [[9th Wonders!]] to be by [[Sylar]], but not due to the [[explosion]] (possibly in a scene similar to the one that takes place in [[Isaac's loft]], had [[Hiro]] not showed up). From the picture, it doesn't seem that Ando was in an explosion (eg - no burnt flesh), but rather was crumpled and mangled (possibly an effect of [[telekinesis]] or [[enhanced strength]] (though I know we don't know Sylar had the latter at any point). Also, the [[:Image:9th wonders andowned.jpg|original picture]] description seems to indicate that it was due to something other than the explosion (ie - "at Sylar's hands"). I have no problem with leaving it as is, but just wanted to list my thoughts somewhere. :) --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 16:23, 10 November 2008 (EST) |
Not a big deal, but I just wanted to list my initial reasoning somewhere. I was under the impression that [[Ando]] interpreted his death scene in [[9th Wonders!]] to be by [[Sylar]], but not due to the [[explosion]] (possibly in a scene similar to the one that takes place in [[Isaac's loft]], had [[Hiro]] not showed up). From the picture, it doesn't seem that Ando was in an explosion (eg - no burnt flesh), but rather was crumpled and mangled (possibly an effect of [[telekinesis]] or [[enhanced strength]] (though I know we don't know Sylar had the latter at any point). Also, the [[:Image:9th wonders andowned.jpg|original picture]] description seems to indicate that it was due to something other than the explosion (ie - "at Sylar's hands"). I have no problem with leaving it as is, but just wanted to list my thoughts somewhere. :) --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 16:23, 10 November 2008 (EST) |
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* Thanks, Stevehim. I think it's a matter of interpretation. I've never interpreted Ando saying "I die. Sylar kills me." as a death by telekinesis or anything other than an explosion. If Sylar was the cause for the explosion, then yes, it would be a death "at Sylar's hands". But really, that's just the description that a fan put for the uploaded picture, not a canon description, of course. Also [[Tim Sale]]'s philosophy is to get the story across in simplest way possible...though dying from an explosion doesn't necessarily mean being burned to death--certainly it could mean something falling on Ando, for instance, and crumpling him in such a way... In the end, I think it's important to not assume that there's a discrepancy unless we know there is one. I tried to word it that way by saying that "some have found a discrepancy"...but I don't want to assume that just because there could be holes in the plot that there definitely are holes in the plot....Great article, by the way! -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 17:03, 10 November 2008 (EST) |
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** Thanks. :) And I can see it being as something falling on him due to the explosion... I just didn't think of that initially. In light of that, it could even be removed entirely. I have a list of other places to add this to on my userpage, and I'm gonna try to get to it tonight. Thanks for adding the character links and to the portal. --[[User:Stevehim|Stevehim]] 17:13, 10 November 2008 (EST) |
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*** I wouldn't mind if it's removed altogether. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 19:21, 10 November 2008 (EST) |
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== don't look back == |
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Can I add this (him answering the phone, etc) in notes as being an alternate future? I added it in history but I understand why someone removed it. -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 01:11, 3 January 2009 (EST) |
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* It was removed because that's a different Ando from a different alternate future. When Hiro jumped ahead 5 weeks (''[[Don't Look Back]]''), that was a future in which the explosion occurred and Ando was in Japan. Later, when Hiro and Ando jumped ahead five years (''[[Five Years Gone]]''), that was a different future in which the explosion occurred and Ando was in New York. Two different Andos, just like the [[Ando (exposed future)|Ando]] who kills Hiro is a completely different Ando from a different future. That's why it was removed. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:59, 3 January 2009 (EST) |
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**What I meant was I understand why it was removed, but can it be put as a note anyway? -- {{User:Tristan0709/Signature}} 02:07, 3 January 2009 (EST) |
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*** Only that the Future Ando from ''[[Don't Look Back]]'' shouldn't be confused with the Future Ando who is killed in the explosion. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 02:36, 3 January 2009 (EST) |
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== Deletion == |
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Why are you keeping this article? There was no Ando Masahashi in explosion future - he died when the bomb went off. Or when Sylar killed him in present. Anyway, he was dead. Like Micah, D.L. or Candice. Can't see articles about then, however. {{User:Altes/Signature}} |
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Latest revision as of 16:51, 14 August 2009
Death discrepancy
Not a big deal, but I just wanted to list my initial reasoning somewhere. I was under the impression that Ando interpreted his death scene in 9th Wonders! to be by Sylar, but not due to the explosion (possibly in a scene similar to the one that takes place in Isaac's loft, had Hiro not showed up). From the picture, it doesn't seem that Ando was in an explosion (eg - no burnt flesh), but rather was crumpled and mangled (possibly an effect of telekinesis or enhanced strength (though I know we don't know Sylar had the latter at any point). Also, the original picture description seems to indicate that it was due to something other than the explosion (ie - "at Sylar's hands"). I have no problem with leaving it as is, but just wanted to list my thoughts somewhere. :) --Stevehim 16:23, 10 November 2008 (EST)
- Thanks, Stevehim. I think it's a matter of interpretation. I've never interpreted Ando saying "I die. Sylar kills me." as a death by telekinesis or anything other than an explosion. If Sylar was the cause for the explosion, then yes, it would be a death "at Sylar's hands". But really, that's just the description that a fan put for the uploaded picture, not a canon description, of course. Also Tim Sale's philosophy is to get the story across in simplest way possible...though dying from an explosion doesn't necessarily mean being burned to death--certainly it could mean something falling on Ando, for instance, and crumpling him in such a way... In the end, I think it's important to not assume that there's a discrepancy unless we know there is one. I tried to word it that way by saying that "some have found a discrepancy"...but I don't want to assume that just because there could be holes in the plot that there definitely are holes in the plot....Great article, by the way! -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:03, 10 November 2008 (EST)
- Thanks. :) And I can see it being as something falling on him due to the explosion... I just didn't think of that initially. In light of that, it could even be removed entirely. I have a list of other places to add this to on my userpage, and I'm gonna try to get to it tonight. Thanks for adding the character links and to the portal. --Stevehim 17:13, 10 November 2008 (EST)
- I wouldn't mind if it's removed altogether. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:21, 10 November 2008 (EST)
- Thanks. :) And I can see it being as something falling on him due to the explosion... I just didn't think of that initially. In light of that, it could even be removed entirely. I have a list of other places to add this to on my userpage, and I'm gonna try to get to it tonight. Thanks for adding the character links and to the portal. --Stevehim 17:13, 10 November 2008 (EST)
don't look back
Can I add this (him answering the phone, etc) in notes as being an alternate future? I added it in history but I understand why someone removed it. -- Tristan0709 talk 01:11, 3 January 2009 (EST)
- It was removed because that's a different Ando from a different alternate future. When Hiro jumped ahead 5 weeks (Don't Look Back), that was a future in which the explosion occurred and Ando was in Japan. Later, when Hiro and Ando jumped ahead five years (Five Years Gone), that was a different future in which the explosion occurred and Ando was in New York. Two different Andos, just like the Ando who kills Hiro is a completely different Ando from a different future. That's why it was removed. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2009 (EST)
- What I meant was I understand why it was removed, but can it be put as a note anyway? -- Tristan0709 talk 02:07, 3 January 2009 (EST)
- Only that the Future Ando from Don't Look Back shouldn't be confused with the Future Ando who is killed in the explosion. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:36, 3 January 2009 (EST)
- What I meant was I understand why it was removed, but can it be put as a note anyway? -- Tristan0709 talk 02:07, 3 January 2009 (EST)
Deletion
Why are you keeping this article? There was no Ando Masahashi in explosion future - he died when the bomb went off. Or when Sylar killed him in present. Anyway, he was dead. Like Micah, D.L. or Candice. Can't see articles about then, however.
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