Template talk:Newpage theory

Automate?

I think it has to be an admin to install this to work automatically like the season histories template. For now, I'm going to be using {{subst:Newpage_theory}}.--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:15, 20 September 2007 (EDT)

• I've updated the template some and it's going well. I just rediscovered that MediaWiki:Newarticletext is what needs to be edited, and that it is protected for administrator-only editing.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:58, 20 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Actually, it's Template:Newarticletextbuttons that does the work. I don't think that's protected.--Hardvice (talk) 00:23, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Oh wait, you want it to be automagic. Yeah, that's MediaWiki:Newarticletext. I'll do it now.--Hardvice (talk) 00:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
    • K. Should be working now.--Hardvice (talk) 00:51, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Awesome, kudos.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:59, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

Link template

• To make things easier, since some of the theory base articles don't exist and don't need to exist, I added a link template which returns a link or just the text specified. Perhaps this template can be used elsewhere to simplify some of the other templates?--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:59, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
  • Yeah, good call. It had an extraneous line break that was breaking the formatting, but I took care of it. Now to get it to subst properly...--Hardvice (talk) 01:01, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
    • All good to go. This ought to be cake, really, since we're just cnp-ing from the existing articles.--Hardvice (talk) 01:06, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
    • In the end, I had to remove the subst: logic. It works fine when you subst the template, but not when you preload it. IIRC we ran into the same problem when we added the Welcome button. Ah well, no biggie.--Hardvice (talk) 01:17, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
      • Check out here. I think they say how to do optional substitution, though I'm still learning about how it works. Something like {{subst:subst}}PAGENAME}} should work for preloading, right? At least that's what the help says...--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
        • The trouble is that preloaded pages behave oddly with noinclude and includeonly tags (same reason we can't add any cats, even in noinclude tags, to preload pages). I tried all three subst: tricks I know and none worked, but I'll take a look at that help page.--Hardvice (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
          • The trick is that they make subst itself a template that returns "{{subst:"--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
            • I actually got it to behave by putting the subst: in its own set of includeonly tags, but only by closing and reopening the overall includeonly tags around it. Bizarre.--Hardvice (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
              • Very nifty, Hardvice! ⁵ So there is more than one way to do it, then.--MiamiVolts (talk) 01:37, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
                • There are at least a half-dozen ways to get a template to write in a subst. Unfortunately, most of them don't seem to work with preloaded pages. And I still have no idea why this one works. It really makes no sense that <noinclude>text </noinclude><noinclude>substitution </noinclude><noinclude>text</noinclude> is different from <noinclude>text substitution text</noinclude>, but hey.--Hardvice (talk) 01:41, 21 September 2007 (EDT)