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imported>Ryangibsonstewart New page: To me, this page seems too close to secrets and deception to merit its own article. I'm not sure there's enough unique examples of loyalty and treachery that won't already fit on other... |
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To me, this page seems too close to [[secrets and deception]] to merit its own article. I'm not sure there's enough unique examples of loyalty and treachery that won't already fit on other pages. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 08:14, 16 February 2007 (EST) |
To me, this page seems too close to [[secrets and deception]] to merit its own article. I'm not sure there's enough unique examples of loyalty and treachery that won't already fit on other pages. — [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 08:14, 16 February 2007 (EST) |
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* "Treachery", as we're using it here, does not necessarily equal deception. Simone disobeys Nathan's request by showing Peter the missing painting, but I wouldn't say she deceives him in doing so ... she's just loyal to Peter instead. Eden goes rogue, but she's not particularly sneaky about it. Sure, the Haitian's loyalty is brought into question because of his deception, but even that disloyalty is separate from the deception itself--if he's not loyal to Mr. Bennet, where ''does'' his loyalty lie?<br><br>Treachery aside, there are even more example of loyalty to consider. Hiro sticks with Ando when Kaito's men catch him. Mohinder's mother puts her husband's needs above her own. I'd say if it's done properly, this is quite a separate theme: who are people loyal to? When faced with a choice, with whom do they side? In Eden's story alone, I'd say her primary quest is figuring out who to side with.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 09:41, 16 February 2007 (EST) |
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To me, this page seems too close to secrets and deception to merit its own article. I'm not sure there's enough unique examples of loyalty and treachery that won't already fit on other pages. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:14, 16 February 2007 (EST)
- "Treachery", as we're using it here, does not necessarily equal deception. Simone disobeys Nathan's request by showing Peter the missing painting, but I wouldn't say she deceives him in doing so ... she's just loyal to Peter instead. Eden goes rogue, but she's not particularly sneaky about it. Sure, the Haitian's loyalty is brought into question because of his deception, but even that disloyalty is separate from the deception itself--if he's not loyal to Mr. Bennet, where does his loyalty lie?
Treachery aside, there are even more example of loyalty to consider. Hiro sticks with Ando when Kaito's men catch him. Mohinder's mother puts her husband's needs above her own. I'd say if it's done properly, this is quite a separate theme: who are people loyal to? When faced with a choice, with whom do they side? In Eden's story alone, I'd say her primary quest is figuring out who to side with.--Hardvice (talk) 09:41, 16 February 2007 (EST)