Talk:Hiro Nakamura

I think the "great disservice" part was that Hiro thought that he had not been doing his mission -- that he was just living a mundane life and not showing the bravery that his grandfather had exemplified. -Icewind 11.15.06 // 4:23PM

Hiro Nakamura runs out of mana. WTF. -Icewind 11.27.06 // 8:54PM

Hiro doesn’t stop time, he moves independently from it. Stopping time would have universal ramifications. One person moving independently from time, not so much. When it appears that time stops, Hiro is basically just moving really fast.--ASEO 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST)

Hiro accidentally jumps away from Charlie. I still don’t understand why he doesn’t save her from being murdered, even if she is going to die anyway, at least she wouldn’t be murdered. --ASEO 11:04, 1 February 2007 (EST)

Shiro Nakamura of Nissan

Sounds fine. It's not stating that there's a necessary or causal relationship between one or the other, which we don't yet know. From my recollection, Hiro is named for sounding like "hero" and being explained somewhere that it's short for Hiroshima? Though dunno if that bit's canon. I've usually heard "Hiro" as short for Hiroyuki, though I guess there's likely other possibilities. His last name could be named after this Senior VP, or for some other reason, or be entirely coincidental. But it's just trivia. I usually figure if people read more into something than is actually written, they're the one's bearing the risk of going out on that limb. ^^ --Glue 05:48, 25 February 2007 (EST)

• No comment on Shiro Nakamura (although, Nakamura is a popular Japanese last name -- see Saemi Nakamura). Just a quick note about his name: Hiro sounding like hero is a very cool connection -- I'm sure it's purposeful, but not canonical. He mentioned he was named after Hiroshima in Graphic Novel:The Crane. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 08:46, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Hiro's Blog Shutdown by Yamagato Industries

http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/2007/03/notice_from_yamagato_industrie.php

What's up with that? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/9/2007 14:46 (EST)

• Oh, now that's just awesome. Those Yamagatans, they're such teases! — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Section Cleanup

The Powers section needs a bit of cleanup. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Hiro in Kanji

I'm not Japanese, but I have been involved with Japanese Wado Ryu Karate and Shindo Yoshin Ryu Jiujitsu for years and years. I noticed that the article wants the kanji for Hiro's name. Here are the two best choices taken from the online J-E Dictionary at: http://dict.regex.info/cgi-bin/j-e/dosearch?sDict=on&H=PS&L=J&T=Hiro&WC=none&FG=r&BG=b&S=26 They are:
1) "hiro":
the kanji entry which means 'fathom' and is the most literal same romanji spelling of the name.

and
2) "hirroo":
the kana entry which means 'hero', and is a contextually more accurate fit. I will list that graphic #2 on the main page. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/15/2007 17:12 (EST)

Being directed here by a fellow member with obviously more Wiki-experience than I have, I am willing to discuss what Hiro's name in kanji should be. He explained to me that I should have Asian fonts as uploaded pictures, however I believe this to be bulky and distracting to the flow and aesthetics of the article in general, and looking at almost every other page that utilizes Asian fonts, they all have them as regular text. What I'm trying to say is, if you don't have Asian fonts installed, you not that interested in knowing Hiro's authentic name! Ok, just kidding about that, but I stand by my original opinion that pictures make it bulky looking. And to think that everytime you want to type Asian fonts you would have to make a picture and upload it, it would be aggravatingly painstaking.

From my couple of semesters of Japanese at my university, I can safely assume that the correct kanji for Hiro's family name is:

and his given name is: because it was stated his name is based on the city of Hiroshima. --Pred_0212 (talk) 03/17/2007 23:17 (CST)

• Sounds reasonable. We just need to be careful that it's clear that this is probably Hiro's name in kanji, since it's never been shown on screen or in a comic. As for the pictures: yes, it looks bulky, but the alternative is users seeing little boxes, which gives the impression that we're sloppy and don't care. A user without Asian language support is unlikely to know they lack it. An alternative would be to use actual text and write a help article about installing Eastern language support, and make sure that a note with a link to it appears every time we use kanji (probably with a template). I actually kind of like that idea, but I don't even remember what was involved in adding Eastern language support, and I don't speak or read any Eastern languages. If you'd like to collaborate on it, I can set up the shell for the help page and add the template, if you're willing to provide instructions for at least IE and Firefox (and we should ask Admin how many and which non-IE/FF hits we get so we can add more if needed.)--Hardvice (talk) 00:29, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
  • I prefer the pictures (though they can be made smaller to be less bulky and less interrupting of flow) because I often work on Heroes Wiki at work. My computer there does not have Asian language support, and I have been denied permission to download it there ... go figure. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:40, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
    • Well, yeah. But you know what the little boxes mean, and if you didn't, then the help page would tell you, even if you couldn't do anything about it. I think Pred has a point: uploading (and maintaining) images is a pain compared to text (not that there's a ton of kanji, nor should there be, but still...) It's also less accessibility-friendly to have text as images (assuming a blind visitor has a speech browser than supports Eastern languages, I guess...) and is generally considered poor web design (at least without alt text, and alt text on Wiki is either the caption, or the filename if there's no caption). I definitely think images are the way to go on, say, The Symbol, because they're in a gallery and fit well with that page. But for a quick note on a character page or episode, straight text is probably the way to go. Besides, we already have a ton of non-image kanji that's snuck into the articles--including this one, I just noticed.--Hardvice (talk) 00:46, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Right, I'm not saying we should use images, either. I'm just sorta playing devil's advocate, and stating my preference. Well, at least my preference for when I'm at work....That, and I'm just complaining about my 1982 model computer at work. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:07, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
  • Here's the template Wikipedia uses. We could conceivably add one for Indic text as well on the off chance somebody's able to translate Chandra's file for us, and use one centralized help page.--Hardvice (talk) 00:57, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
    • Thanks for the insight on how we should resolve this, Hardvice. You are right, we need to agree that it is probably his name, and I already knew that those characters are just going on assumption, perhaps I should have stated clearer. You are also right saying that the only Japanese probably to exist on this wiki would be on Hiro's page, and for the time being, it would be fairly limited to his Japanese name. I am willing to update Hiro's page with my contributions if it is the general consensus. --Pred 0212 01:34, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
      • That's fine, Pred, go ahead and update the page. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:41, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Portal:Hiro

I have been wanting to create a portal or page for each main character. See my Sandbox for a very rough draft of one. Besides "Portal:Hiro" we could make it "World:Hiro" or the like. Thoughts? Comments? ---- 20:54, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

• Yeah, I think it's a nice idea. I'm not sure about the name, and there are some changes I would make, but I could see the concept fitting in with the site. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:17, 22 March 2007 (EDT)