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***But Knox and Niki have the same power because they have a similar effect, and we have seen variations of powers take [[Flight]] for example. As for my opinion I think we should leave it as is, because it could go either way.--[[User:Sylar Fan09|Sylar Fan09]] 20:55, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
***But Knox and Niki have the same power because they have a similar effect, and we have seen variations of powers take [[Flight]] for example. As for my opinion I think we should leave it as is, because it could go either way.--[[User:Sylar Fan09|Sylar Fan09]] 20:55, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
****Well I can't argue there, I've always supported the split between Niki and Knox's ability, but as it is now, there's not enough information to say they have the same ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:58, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
****Well I can't argue there, I've always supported the split between Niki and Knox's ability, but as it is now, there's not enough information to say they have the same ability. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:58, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
***** Not sure you understand... Niki and Knox both have an ability that enhances their strength... in this case, there's a possibility that what the man is doing isn't really melting, but sublimation or some other sort of transformation instead.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 21:54, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

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2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
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Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
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6. Possessor's name
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Sure sounds like melting to me...

From the information given on this page, (and me not being a religious iStory follower) I believe that it is actually more speculative to say this new power is a separate ability than to say it's melting, an ability which we already know. The man is described to do exactly what Zane and Sylar were able to do, he is seen melting objects. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 11:38, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

  • He can "melt" chains. Of course it's melting. --BoomerDay 14:01, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
    • While I do think that it's melting, I wouldn't support moving it there for now. Melting was never shown to be touch based, neither by Zane nor by Sylar. Unless it's revealed in future chapters or by interviews, SAS's ability is the way to go. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 17:53, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
      • I agree with Intuitive Empath on not merging this with melting, but don't think we know whether the ability is or isn't the same as Zane's melting ability. They could very well be one and the same, but the description is so vague that it's impossible to tell at this point.--MiamiVolts (talk) 18:51, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
      • Well, it would be kinda hard for this guy to not be touching the chains which are tying him up when he melts them... -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/-18:58, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
        • Right, though we don't know whether or not he can also use his ability without touching them.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:03, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
          • I believe it says he melts the chains into jeans. The exact quote being "The chains around the man with the crazy grin suddenly melt into jeans and a T-shirt" --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 19:10, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

            • Right, I took that to mean that the chains appear to vanish into his jeans and T-shirt. But since it's supposed to be dark in that tent, I'm not sure whether Anna would be able to tell if any liquid fell to the ground.--MiamiVolts (talk) 19:21, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
              • I took it to mean the chains actually created the jeans and T-shirt when they melted --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 19:43, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

                • I guess anything is possible, but it didn't say that the melting "formed" the jeans and T-shirt.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2009 (EDT)
                  • I know, just my opinion :), the problem is they used "into" this could mean actually created them or the clothes absorbed the liquid. I do wish the heroes crew would become better at explaining and describing exactly what each ability is and does. But anyway, I agree with you, this page should be kept separate until new information comes to light to suggest otherwise. --posted by Laughingdevilboy

Talk 20:15, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

  • This is an actual serious question, i dont read the istory or whatever, but what reasons are there for this not being melting? --Lolwut 16:49, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
    • 1) Zane's melting ability didn't involve touching the item; 2) Zane's ability left mushy metallic substances behind... it isn't clear what happens with the crazy grin man's ability, but Anna didn't see any remains fall to the ground. PS: You should check it out; it's actually quite a fun read. :)--MiamiVolts (talk) 17:12, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
      • But Knox and Niki have the same power because they have a similar effect, and we have seen variations of powers take Flight for example. As for my opinion I think we should leave it as is, because it could go either way.--Sylar Fan09 20:55, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
        • Well I can't argue there, I've always supported the split between Niki and Knox's ability, but as it is now, there's not enough information to say they have the same ability. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:58, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
          • Not sure you understand... Niki and Knox both have an ability that enhances their strength... in this case, there's a possibility that what the man is doing isn't really melting, but sublimation or some other sort of transformation instead.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:54, 13 April 2009 (EDT)