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::::As soon as I saw your original comment that's the exact scene I went and checked out. :) He does say "persuasion" there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 15:19, 28 December 2006 (EST)) |
::::As soon as I saw your original comment that's the exact scene I went and checked out. :) He does say "persuasion" there. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 15:19, 28 December 2006 (EST)) |
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:::::Settles that, then. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 15:24, 28 December 2006 (EST) |
:::::Settles that, then. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 15:24, 28 December 2006 (EST) |
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== Canon naming == |
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I've seen the discussion above, and although Sylar says "the power of persuasion", is this an explicit naming of the ability. For example if he said the power of reading minds, that wouldn't be an explicit name would it. But the main reason I've brought this up is that in [[Graphic Novel:From the Files of Primatech, Part 1]] the ability was ''explicitly'' by the company. Would this not be more appropriate than Sylar's comment for the naming conventions? --[[User:Mc hammark|mc_hammark]] 18:49, 19 February 2010 (EST) |
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| Ability Naming Conventions | |
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| The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order: | |
| Episodes | |
| 2. Near-canon Sources | Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions |
| 3. Secondary Sources | Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival |
| 4. Common names for abilities | Names from other works |
| 5. Descriptions of abilities | Descriptions |
| 6. Possessor's name | If no non-speculative description is possible |
| Source/Explanation | |
| Sylar explicitly refers to Eden's ability as "persuasion" in Fallout. | |
I suspect Eden's power is more effective when she has already established good relations with the target; she has more difficulty compelling someone to act when she has to overcome a hostile attitude. This would explain her failure with Sylar and the need to repeat her instruction to Matt Parkman. Her power probably works best when she is simply coaxing someone past a little bit of reluctance instead of over direct opposition. --Ted C 12:16, 12 December 2006 (EST)
Name
Is there some reason we changed this from "Suggestion", since that's the only term for her power I recall actually being used in the show? --Ted C 10:10, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- I just checked and near the end of Fallout when Eden visited Sylar he did call it "the power of persuasion." Do you recall when they referred to it as "suggestion" in the show? In the end it may not be that important... a rose by any other name... :) (Admin 10:24, 28 December 2006 (EST))
- Sylar definitely calls it persuasion. I think that's a good name, too. Eden persuades (um, persuaded), which has a stronger connotation of control, rather than simply making a "suggestion". - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:11, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- Hmmm... I thought Sylar called it the "power of suggestion" when he attacked Eden in "Fallout". --Ted C 15:15, 28 December 2006 (EST)
- Sylar definitely calls it persuasion. I think that's a good name, too. Eden persuades (um, persuaded), which has a stronger connotation of control, rather than simply making a "suggestion". - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 11:11, 28 December 2006 (EST)
Canon naming
I've seen the discussion above, and although Sylar says "the power of persuasion", is this an explicit naming of the ability. For example if he said the power of reading minds, that wouldn't be an explicit name would it. But the main reason I've brought this up is that in Graphic Novel:From the Files of Primatech, Part 1 the ability was explicitly by the company. Would this not be more appropriate than Sylar's comment for the naming conventions? --mc_hammark 18:49, 19 February 2010 (EST)