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*I agree it's at its ''max'', but not that it's too long. I think if we add any more examples, we'll have to take some out (perhaps some of the less dynamic examples, like teleporting into the ladies room). Let's discuss possibilities before deleting examples, though. <p> Just another suggestion - perhaps, for the completionist in me, we could have just a few illustrative examples on each individual power page, and then a link to another full and complete list, perhaps something called "List of Space-time manipulation examples"? Thoughts? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:26, 3 January 2007 (EST) |
*I agree it's at its ''max'', but not that it's too long. I think if we add any more examples, we'll have to take some out (perhaps some of the less dynamic examples, like teleporting into the ladies room). Let's discuss possibilities before deleting examples, though. <p> Just another suggestion - perhaps, for the completionist in me, we could have just a few illustrative examples on each individual power page, and then a link to another full and complete list, perhaps something called "List of Space-time manipulation examples"? Thoughts? - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 15:26, 3 January 2007 (EST) |
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**See [[Heroes_Wiki:Administrator_Portal#Examples_on_Portal_Pages|here]] for further discussion. |
**See [[Heroes_Wiki:Administrator_Portal#Examples_on_Portal_Pages|here]] for further discussion. |
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== Manipulation is misnomer == |
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''' "Exactly how this ability works is unclear." ''' Using the phrase "stopping time" is actually a misnomer. We can only venture into speculation this early in the series, but we can't jump to the conclusion that he can affect time or space in any manner. In fact, time is but a measurement, from the limited perception of we linear temporal beings. Time doesn't really exist any more than a 'meter' or a 'fathom' exists. Comparing the time he stopped time in front of Micah & DL to the time he failed to stop time to get the sword and slowed it instead, I believe it safe for us to presume that Hiro is not stopping and starting time. He is only realigning his place in time, much like moving a needle on the grooves of a record. To be honest, if he literally stopped all time in the universe, that would include gravity, causing him to hurl out into space like an ant being thrown off a spinning orange. Since gravity is not affected, and he can breathe normally, and other laws of physics seem to affect him like the size and weight of surrounding objects, he's not altering reality in any manner, just his relation to it. In fact, it's really the only rational explanation based on what we've thus far observed. He doesn't stop time. He speeds up or slows down, puts himself in reverse, or fast forwards himself through reality, outside temporal constraints. -- [[User:ZachsMind|ZachsMind]] 15:56, 3 February 2007 (EST) |
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Revision as of 20:56, 3 February 2007
This article could use an image and references. --Ted C 15:16, 8 December 2006 (EST)
Examples Limit
The Examples section is way too long. Heroe 14:43, 3 January 2007 (EST)
- We've already discussed the possibility of limiting the number of examples in Powers pages, as they would grow out of control over the course of a 5-year plotline. Identify which examples you think are best, and how many you think should be the max for one Powers page. --Ted C 14:46, 3 January 2007 (EST)
- I agree it's at its max, but not that it's too long. I think if we add any more examples, we'll have to take some out (perhaps some of the less dynamic examples, like teleporting into the ladies room). Let's discuss possibilities before deleting examples, though.
Just another suggestion - perhaps, for the completionist in me, we could have just a few illustrative examples on each individual power page, and then a link to another full and complete list, perhaps something called "List of Space-time manipulation examples"? Thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:26, 3 January 2007 (EST)
- See here for further discussion.
Manipulation is misnomer
"Exactly how this ability works is unclear." Using the phrase "stopping time" is actually a misnomer. We can only venture into speculation this early in the series, but we can't jump to the conclusion that he can affect time or space in any manner. In fact, time is but a measurement, from the limited perception of we linear temporal beings. Time doesn't really exist any more than a 'meter' or a 'fathom' exists. Comparing the time he stopped time in front of Micah & DL to the time he failed to stop time to get the sword and slowed it instead, I believe it safe for us to presume that Hiro is not stopping and starting time. He is only realigning his place in time, much like moving a needle on the grooves of a record. To be honest, if he literally stopped all time in the universe, that would include gravity, causing him to hurl out into space like an ant being thrown off a spinning orange. Since gravity is not affected, and he can breathe normally, and other laws of physics seem to affect him like the size and weight of surrounding objects, he's not altering reality in any manner, just his relation to it. In fact, it's really the only rational explanation based on what we've thus far observed. He doesn't stop time. He speeds up or slows down, puts himself in reverse, or fast forwards himself through reality, outside temporal constraints. -- ZachsMind 15:56, 3 February 2007 (EST)