Talk:Level 5 escapees

Nice page! I've been thinking about adding it myself. But is Noah really to be included in the 12 escapees...? Pierre 12:29, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

• He did escape from Level 5. I wouldn't consider him one of the 12 villains that Noah describes (though that would be a big twist if he were one of them), but he is one of the individuals who escaped from Level 5 when Elle knocked out the power.--Bob (talk) 13:05, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Yes Noah did. He was in a cell and then he left the bulding to go home and Anglia said 'i knew you would come back'.--Skywalkerrbf 13:08, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
    • Although he is not a part of the twelve level 5 escapees... Pierre 13:18, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
• When I started writing the page, I wasn't sure if I should include Noah or not, because, well, he's not a bad guy. I think. Anyways, he did escape from Level 5, so I guess he belongs here. It doesn't really matter what he did after his escape. Obi-Dan Kenobi 13:39, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
  • It's not objective to say he doesn't belong because he's not a bad guy. He is a bad guy, but to group him with the twelve that he describes to Claire may be incorrect. However, this article is about the people who escaped from Level 5 when Elle knocked out the power, and Noah is one of them.--Bob (talk) 15:04, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
    • • I agree that he belongs, and this whether he's good or bad has nothing to do with whether he escaped or not (Angela states he did, and Elle confirms it). But I don't know if I'd consider him a 'bad guy.' He's no Peter, but he's certainly no Knox or Angela either. Stevehim 17:50, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

He didn't escape, though. Just prior to the grid's failure, Elle lets him out. Therequiembellishere 22:23, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

• He was let out specifically to deal with Sylar, not to roam free. I think they expected him to return to his cell after the job was done. Angela even says 'And Noah Bennett is gone too,' which implies he shouldn't be. Plus, Elle doesn't have the authority to release prisoners (and she even answers Angela with 'And I'm gonna get right on it,' so it seems plain even she meant for Noah to stay. Stevehim 02:36, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
  • It doesn't imply that at all, it's just a statement. And he certainly does roam free, he goes to California as soon as he's let out. Elle was a Company agent of unknown clearance, it's OR to assume she didn't have it. "Get right on it" was for the true escapees, Noah isn't a threat and could be taken down by anyone. Therequiembellishere 05:32, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
    • How doesn't it imply that? If Noah was allowed to go free then Angela wouldn't be commenting on his absence to Elle. As for assuming Elle's clearance (actually, you're assuming she has the clearance to let people go), she's not the head of the Company, and we've seen her lack of authority many times. Bob removes her from field work altogether. She visits Noah in Season 2, and Bob asks her what she's doing there and tells her to leave the room. And when she comes to get Noah in Season 3, he states that Bob doesn't want him leaving, to which she replies her dad is dead. Since we know for a fact that authority doesn't fall to her upon his demise (it falls to Angela), there's no reason to assume that she has authority to release level 5 prisoners. Even Noah, who could be assumed to be the main Company agent in season 1, didn't have that kind of clearance. "I'm gonna get right on that" could be in reference to either Noah or the evolved humans, and I don't see why you'd assume it wcouldn't be. Now, if you want to say that Angela has no intention of reimprisoning him, then there is evidence to support that (though I don't know that it's clear that will be the case yet). But he was not 'let go' when Elle blew the grid. And simply because he doesn't have 'powers' doesn't mean Noah isn't a threat, or that he could be taken down by anyone. I think we have ample evidence that that's not the case.  :) Stevehim 05:58, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

All escaped

Can we assume that everyone held at Level Five escaped? If so, can we assume Echo escaped as well? Therequiembellishere 22:29, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

Canfield really deceased

We don't really know if someone put into his black hole dies or not.