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Talk:Judaism
Significance
- I may be jumping the gun here like usual, but is this a significant item within the realm of Heroes? If not we'd just add a link to wikipedia's article on it where necessary. (Admin 16:43, 10 February 2007 (EST))
- As it stands, no, it's not really relevant. I'd like to add some content reflecting Hana's Jewish background affects her, as well as a gallery of all the Stars of David that appear. Give me a bit to work on it, and we can make a decision then... — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2007 (EST)
- Okay, I added some content. Actually, after having written it, I think maybe the article should be renamed "Judaism". ... If it's still deemed insignificant, let's delete it. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:42, 10 February 2007 (EST)
- As it stands, no, it's not really relevant. I'd like to add some content reflecting Hana's Jewish background affects her, as well as a gallery of all the Stars of David that appear. Give me a bit to work on it, and we can make a decision then... — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2007 (EST)
Formatting
We need some better organization on this page. I don't like the nonstandard headings "General Occurrences" or "Hana Gitelman". We should probably just make it into an "About" section with GN and ep headings. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:38, 21 April 2007 (EDT)
Judas
Should Judas Iscariot be considered part of an article on Judaism? While Judas and Jesus were Hebrew, the role the former plays in religion is more rooted in Christianity than Judaism. -- Paronine 13:05, 15 July 2007
- I don't care that it's on this page--the argument could be made that it belongs or that it doesn't belong. We don't have a page about Christianity (nor do I think we necessarily need one), but it is mentioned on our page about faith and religion, right here. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:16, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
- In fact they are ONLY rooted in Christianity. Discussions of Jesus and Judas no more belong on a page about Judaism then they do on a page about Islam or Hinduism. Judaism doesn't believe that the Jesus that Christians believe in ever existed, or any of the stories told in the Gospels. The New Testament does not appear in the Bible, that is, it doesn't appear in the Jewish Bible. Baradrae 20:30, 15 July 2007
- If that's true that the story of Judas is not part of Judaism then, yes, it does not belong on this page. I think the fact that we mention Peter's quote on faith and religion as an example of religious influences on the show is sufficient. (Admin 13:57, 15 July 2007 (EDT))
- In truth, there are different sects of Judaism, and it depends on who you're talking to whether or not they accept the story. Also, Judas and Jesus were Jewish. The argument could be made either way. Personally, I don't care where it's included, as long as it's mentioned is somewhere on the site, which it is. If someone wants it off, that's fine with me. If others express an interest in keeping it on, that's also acceptable. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
- It probably should be removed. Just remember, always leave an edit summary, especially when removing an entire sub section. -Lөvөl 02:06, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
- I don't see a problem with it. Whether he has a role in Judaism or not, he was still Jewish himself, so it doesn't seem too out of place.--Leshia 02:14, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
- But according to Judaism, Jesus and Judas were not Jewish - they are imaginary characters. And there are NO sects of Judaism that accept that Jesus or Judas were real. By definition, if you accept the stories in the New Testament as real you are no longer Jewish, you are a Christian. - Baradrae 10:00, 16 July 2007
- Accepting the New Testament as real is not the definition of Judaism and does not make one Christian. Again, I don't care one way or the other (though my gut says to take out the reference simply because it's about Judas who was Jewish and is not directly about Judaism anymore than a reference to Barbra Streisand or Ben Stiller is about Judaism), but I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. After all... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 03:15, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
- But according to Judaism, Jesus and Judas were not Jewish - they are imaginary characters. And there are NO sects of Judaism that accept that Jesus or Judas were real. By definition, if you accept the stories in the New Testament as real you are no longer Jewish, you are a Christian. - Baradrae 10:00, 16 July 2007
- I don't see a problem with it. Whether he has a role in Judaism or not, he was still Jewish himself, so it doesn't seem too out of place.--Leshia 02:14, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
- It probably should be removed. Just remember, always leave an edit summary, especially when removing an entire sub section. -Lөvөl 02:06, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
- In truth, there are different sects of Judaism, and it depends on who you're talking to whether or not they accept the story. Also, Judas and Jesus were Jewish. The argument could be made either way. Personally, I don't care where it's included, as long as it's mentioned is somewhere on the site, which it is. If someone wants it off, that's fine with me. If others express an interest in keeping it on, that's also acceptable. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
- If that's true that the story of Judas is not part of Judaism then, yes, it does not belong on this page. I think the fact that we mention Peter's quote on faith and religion as an example of religious influences on the show is sufficient. (Admin 13:57, 15 July 2007 (EDT))