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Archived Talk: Nov/Dec 2006

Table of Contents

Is there an template that would put a "table of contents" at the top of the page, making it easier to jump to a particular theory subject? --Ted C 16:21, 3 January 2007 (EST)

  • Right now, it's forced NOTOC. If we take that out, it will generate a TOC. We should see how it looks. WE can also try Template:tocright.--Hardvice (talk) 16:28, 3 January 2007 (EST)
    • Looks OK on the right; just narrows the first table a bit. --Ted C 16:33, 3 January 2007 (EST)
      • I definitely like the TOC there....And since I use the page so much, um... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:25, 3 January 2007 (EST)

Powers

Did Mr. Bennet not confirm in Fallout that at least one of Claire's birth parents had powers? --Ted C 16:07, 8 January 2007 (EST)

Wow, I don't know. The only info I know of about Claire's birth parents is here. I'd love a quote, though! :) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:23, 8 January 2007 (EST)
Wait, it wasn't Fallout. It was Seven Minutes to Midnight! Bennet was trying to convince Isaac to take the drugs and paint something that would help him save Claire! --Ted C 16:39, 8 January 2007 (EST)
Specifically, I think he said that his organization was attempting to pick up an evolved human like Isaac when things went bad, resulting in the deaths of Claire's parents. I got the impression that the target of the pick up was one of Claire's parents, but I can't recall the exact dialogue now. --Ted C 16:42, 8 January 2007 (EST)
Wow, good catch - I must've missed that. :) Makes sense, though, that her parent(s) would be evolved. I'd love an actual quote so it's not so vague. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 16:59, 8 January 2007 (EST)
Alas, I don't have a recording of any sort to check. --Ted C 17:21, 8 January 2007 (EST)

Although I can't be bothered to dig up the exact dialogue, I remember it was made pretty clear that at least one of Claire's biological parents (I think her mother) had powers. Branfish 01:32, 18 January 2007 (EST)

Exploding Man

"The painting does not depict Peter absorbing Ted's radiation power and exploding. The painting instead shows Peter absorbing Claire's mother's power of pyrokinesis."

No evidence is cited for this at all, so I have to ask: what makes us think that Claire's mother had the power of pyrokinesis? Branfish 01:30, 18 January 2007 (EST)

Also, "Uluru causes Peter to explode or tries to kill him"? I question that a statement as ridiculously unfounded as this one qualifies as a "theory". Branfish 01:35, 18 January 2007 (EST)

  • See "Micah Sanders will build a suit like Iron Man". We're not here to judge, just report. And yes, it is pretty silly.--Hardvice (talk) 01:45, 18 January 2007 (EST)

So what here defines a "fan theory"? From where are we getting these absurd ideas? Is it just that any user of this wiki can add to this page whatever they feel like, or is there an external source for each of these "theories"? Because I submit that in order to qualify as a theory, these ideas must have some justification, or at least a basic stimulus. Branfish 02:04, 18 January 2007 (EST)

  • A fan theory is just that - speculation from viewers about unexplained aspects of the show. There are some really good theories here, and there is also a lot of nonsense, as you've found. A theory does not have to be based on fact in order to be considered valid, and the only basis for inclusion is basically that it hasn't been disproven. For instance, a theory like "Peter is Sylar" would be discounted because we have evidence against that. Unfortunately, a theory like "Jessica works for Yamagato" would be valid (um, well, how about "allowed to be included on the page") because there is no evidence against it. As for justification, there is a column on the table for evidence - many say "none" or are blank, and those are pretty easy to sort out. That doesn't mean they should be deleted, it just means that not all theories have canonical evidence to back them up.

    For a person reading the theories page, it's a case of needle-in-a-haystack to find the cogent theories among the drivel. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 06:43, 18 January 2007 (EST)

    • I'm just asking where these theories actually come from. Are they theories just devised by those who edit the page, or are they theories found elsewhere and transcribed, or both? Branfish 07:57, 18 January 2007 (EST)

Claire

On several occasions on this page, the fact that Claire is alive in Peter's vision is used to refute the possibility that that is the "end of the world". However, it has not yet been directly stated that Claire is the cheerleader that Future Hiro was talking about. Branfish 01:54, 18 January 2007 (EST)

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