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Are we sure that this is a food? Might it be better named a compound? --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:03, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

  • "Usutu's compound"? Sounds forced. We don't know what it is, but we know he eats it. I think it's okay for two more days until we (hopefully) find out a little more about this little mystery... -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:04, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

Speculation

We need to be very careful about avoiding anything that directly shows a causal relationship between the food and Matt's trance. Likewise for the Walkman. We have no idea what really caused to the trance, so we need to not say things like "Matt ate the food so he could go into a trance" or "Matt went into a trance because he put on the headphones" or "Usutu gives Matt food that gets him into a state of precognition" or "The Walkman has similar effects on Matt" or "Usutu uses a Walkman to create prophetic paintings". Likewise, Matt hasn't actually painted anything or even seen the future--we should be careful about saying that he has the power of precognition at this point. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 02:03, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

Rename

Usutu calls this a recipe that's been in his family for generations. I think a name that at least reflects this would be better than the one we have now.--SacValleyDweller (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

  • He also calls it a paste. I think "Usutu's paste" is just as good a name. Either way, as long as we have an article about it that mentions dung. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:59, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
    • How about "Usutu's family's paste" then? I would equally support "Usutu's family's recipe". I wouldn't oppose leaving "family's" out of the name, but I think it makes sense to have it based on Usutu's above quoted statement.--MiamiVolts (talk) 21:15, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
  • Is this really necessary? It is a food, it belongs to Usutu...I think it's good as-is. Besides, technically speaking, the food itself is not the recipe - the recipe is hyena dung and tree roots. --Yamawhata? 17:05, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Hilarity

Would be fun to see a parody ad for this paste, along the lines of Gerber. And Hiro going back in time to find out how it was first formulated. --Torley 23:25, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

  • Not sure it'd be that funny. I imagine it was case of hunger triumphing over instinct. One of his ancestors was probably starving, and came upon some hyena dung that had fallen on a piece of Tambuti tree bark... the rest is self-explanatory.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:01, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
    • You trascribed more than once [laughs], he might have been joking indeed. You really imagine there was hyena dung imported? It would'nt even pass security! I would leave it. --Juba 14:20, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Precognitive?

Is it correct to say that the paste causes a precognitive trance? Doesn't that mean that they would only be able to see the future? But in Villains, Hiro was also able to see the past. Shouldn't this be mentioned on the page, and maybe changed from just precognition to include post/retrocognition as well, or perhaps a more encompassing term?--PrometheusMMIV 16:05, 12 November 2008 (EST)

  • Agreed. There have been questions as to the ability of precogs to see the past before (eg - Peter's dream with Charles, Sylar's eye-flashes when he is stabbed), but it seems now there is no question at all that, at least the paste, can confer the ability to see the past. --Stevehim 19:14, 12 November 2008 (EST)
  • I was under the impression that the paste simply enhances the users power to take them on a 'spirit walk' - aka clairvoyence. With Matt, it tapped into his telepath powers to give him dreams of the future, with Hiro it tapped into his Spatial/temporal manipulations to give him dreams of the past. Thelink 20:32, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Fumes from the Paste?

Are we sure that the bowl that fumes and helps Hiro go back into his trance is the same paste that Hiro ate earlier. I assumed it was something else, like the Opium, that would help him relax. I guess it could be the paste as well, that also makes sense. But do we know for sure?--PrometheusMMIV 16:13, 12 November 2008 (EST)

Usutu fed Hiro the paste, then cooked the paste when the trance started to "fade."--ERROR 21:19, 17 June 2009 (EDT)