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She was the nurse that was caring over Parkman at the end of the episode....and later was shown again in next week's preview. Right? <small>HiroDynoSlayer - 18:14pm 2-26-07</small>
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*She was listed in the credits, so yes, I believe so. --[[User:Fcphantom|Fcphantom]] 23:41, 26 February 2007 (EST)
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== Images of her Disguises ==
Instead of including thumbnails in the body of the episodes section, which generally doesn't happen on other character pages, maybe Candice (nee Betty) should get a gallery of guises below Notes. --[[User:FissionChips|FissionChips]] 14:13, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
*I think that's a good idea. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 14:16, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
** Done. I only moved the one shot because while attempting to populate the gallery, I faced the question on how many should be included on the article. All disguises? Only season two disguises? What counts as a disguise? Arguably, Candice wasn't disguised as the blonde twins, but was making Sylar see them. --[[User:FissionChips|FissionChips]] 14:31, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
***How about the Mr. Campbell, Claire, Simone, Sandra, Jessica, Ms. Baker, Michelle, and the geisha. That's eight, which will make a nice little gallery. The gallery's name should just be "Gallery" for standardization. Don't forget to add [[:Category:Galleries]]. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 14:57, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
**** And done again. I like the selection. I left out Claire as the [[:Image:Powers illusion clairedace.jpg|one example I could find]] had Candice/Claire in transition. So I put in the Sylar-on-Sylar action shot; it's funny even when it makes me shudder. --[[User:FissionChips|FissionChips]] 15:29, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
**** I added the category during a section edit and "Candice Willmer" does not appear in [[:Category:Galleries]]. Odd. --[[User:FissionChips|FissionChips]] 15:44, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
*****It's showing up for me. Are you going to the second page? It's listed under "W". -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:51, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
****** Yep, it's there. I swear I looked. --[[User:FissionChips|FissionChips]] 15:53, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
******* If you looked right after the edit, it may have taken awhile to register, since the category sort is actually going through [[template:character box]]. Sometimes it just takes a few minutes. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:58, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
*What about Candice as appearing as her true self? We saw that when Sylar killed her. Why not put that in the gallery?--[[User:Bella|Bella]] 22:21, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
**That wouldn't really be an example of her using her power. However, the gallery doesn't have a topic. If you want to replace an image, that's fine. I'd try to keep the gallery limited to 8, though, just for aesthetics. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:46, 24 October 2007 (EDT)


== Beaming Beeman? ==
==Power==
Should we include the info from Beeman's blog entry about the original Season 2 plans for Candice, and how they shortened her role down to one episode to try to accommodate Missy's new show? --[[User:Cylon|Cylon]] 15:09, 5 December 2007 (EST)
So...do we know what her power is? ([[User:Heroe|Heroe]]) 22:26, 16 February 2007 (EST)
*I think a note would be appropriate. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 18:01, 5 December 2007 (EST)
* The spoiler for [[Missy Peregrym]] said she was a "temptress" (some kind of pheromones, maybe, but that seems awful Eden-esque), but then again, it called the character "Faith" so who knows how accurate it was?--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 22:29, 16 February 2007 (EST)
**Just as a heads up, we're going to have to come up with a better name for her power. "Temptress" is a person, not a power. I'm sure we'll understand more when the ep airs, but I'm thinking "temptation" will be her power. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 21:41, 21 February 2007 (EST)
***Her power could be anything, really. She could be a temptress who can channel the spirits of the Marx Brothers for all we know. I think we're reading too much into the word "temptress".--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 21 February 2007 (EST)
****Right, totally agree. I'm just mentioning it because over at [[evolved humans]], she's commented out, and her power is listed as "temptress". I just want to make sure we don't start calling her power "temptress". Ugh. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 00:41, 22 February 2007 (EST)
*****I read somewhere it's more than likely shape-shifting of some sort, but we'll have to wait and see (look for her to do a nice Simone impression).--[[User:Baldbobbo|Baldbobbo]] 00:41, 27 February 2007 (EST)
******How do you guys know what her power is like? Did NBC send out a spoiler?
******* See [[Spoiler:Candace]] and [[Spoiler:Parasite#Published Spoilers]]. (I guess it was revealed in the The Ausiello Report?) &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 15:50, 28 February 2007 (EST)


== Namechange to Candace? ==
==Next Question==
Should we assume the character is actually called "Candace Willmer", since she has appeared that way on the list three times already? I mean, the NBC blurb also called "Eric Roberts" "Eric Robert" and thought "Aron Malsky" was the actor's name. (Insert regular caveat about NBC confusing DL with the Haitian and periodically spelling Niki with two k's here.)--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 22:32, 16 February 2007 (EST)
:If the only reference to "Candice" is a single NBC blurb then I'd go with Candace for now unless we see "Candice" show up more frequently. If we find that they changed their mind and actually changed her name to Candice we can always fix it. Though the more reliable sources have repeatedly shown Candace, so I'd put more trust in them. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:42, 16 February 2007 (EST))
::So far it's the NBC blurb and TVGuide, but since TVGuide is just going with what the NBC blurb says...let's move her.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 22:46, 16 February 2007 (EST)
:::Ok. It may go without saying, but I'd leave the redirects for Candice in place for now at least until we know for sure what her name ends up being. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:49, 16 February 2007 (EST))
::::I have a feeling when it comes down to it, they'll go with what's on [[the list]]. They pay pretty close attention to it -- I mean, they made a [[:Image:Snapshot20070213033853.jpg|printout]] with names from the list. Hopefully the people that "matter" will throw us a bone and keep some continuity. :) &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 23:25, 16 February 2007 (EST)


*Did the show really showed that the spelling of her name is "Candice"? Because maybe it is pronounced "Candice" with an "i", but then spelled "Candace" with an 'a', coz this is whats written in the list... I'm not really sure about this...--{{User:NiveKJ13/sig1}} 22:14, 12 December 2008 (EST)
== Spoiler Info up so early? ==
**This brings up another thing that bugs me. We're using "Candice", a first name listed all over the place (EXCEPT The List), and "Willmer", a last name used ONLY on The List. --[[User:Ricard Desi|Ricard Desi]] 00:09, 13 December 2008 (EST)
*** [[Talk:Candice Willmer/Archive 1#Move to Candice?|See here]]. "Candice" was used in screen text very prominently. "Candace" was shown only on the list, and not very prominently. Plus, since it's from the list, the difference in spelling may have been because [[Chandra]] misspelled it or it was misspelled when he got his information from the [[Human Genome Project]]. As for the last name, the only time we've seen it spelled "Wilmer" that I'm aware of is on NBC.com, which isn't always very reliable (if you want examples, let me know). But [[the list]] shown onscreen hierarchically outranks NBC.com. There's no good answer here because we're dealing with conflicting sources--that's one thing if it's about somebody's age or something like that. But when it comes to a person's name and the title of the article, that's a bit different. Ultimately, it boils down to this for me: the onscreen text outranks the text on the list (for the first name), but the text on the list outranks anything on NBC.com (for the last name). -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 01:20, 13 December 2008 (EST)


A heck of a lot of people seem to misspell her name like that...--[[User:ERROR|ERROR]] 11:20, 13 June 2009 (EDT)
Since this is the character page, why is the spoiler information up? I left most of it as a comment in other pages since that episode doesn't air until 5 Mar. Normally the character pages reflect what has actually aired.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Baldbobbo]] 14:02, 24 February 2007 (EST)
*If the character hasn't appeared yet at all then typically the character page gets created with the spoiler information, but the character doesn't get linked to from non-spoiler pages. That way people interested in spoilers can still find out beforehand, but people who avoid spoilers don't get exposed to it. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 14:11, 24 February 2007 (EST))
*Actually, I just checked and the page is currently linked to from [[the list]], so you're right it shouldn't have spoiler information in the main article. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 14:14, 24 February 2007 (EST))
**I just delinked Candace from [[the list]] for now, so we're ok and can continue to add spoilers to her article until she airs. This is like how [[Claude]]'s article was entirely made up of spoilers until he aired. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 14:18, 24 February 2007 (EST))
***Cool beans.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Baldbobbo]] 14:26, 24 February 2007 (EST)


== Redirect ==
== Trivia ==
I notice there's no redirect from "Candace" to "Candace Willmer" How do you make one? [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]] 12:29, 3 March 2007 (EST)
*Edit [[Candace]]. For content just place <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Candace Willmer]]</nowiki>. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 12:31, 3 March 2007 (EST))


I'm not too sure on how to edit these pages and add sections but if someone wanted to add this. The Two Names Betty uses in the TV series could be a possible nod to Candice Michelle, A Professional wrestler [[User:ViciousKillgasm|ViciousKillgasm]] 21 December 2008
Thanks. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]] 12:38, 3 March 2007 (EST)
* Is that confirmed somewhere? -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 15:01, 21 December 2008 (EST)


== Whoever put "Dynamic Camo" ==
== “True form” ==
*This isn't that. Dynamic Camo is the ability to blend in with your surroundings unseen... aka Invisibility.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:43, 5 March 2007 (EST)
**I suppose it's possible that it's considered dynamic camo, but I agree Invisibility would be more likely. In any event one of the best reasons to not call it dynamic camo is that we've gotten that term from Chandra's files I believe so we need to wait until they actually explicitly identify someone's power as dynamic camo before we can call it that. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 22:55, 5 March 2007 (EST))
**Define: Dynamic - Refers to actions that take place at the moment they are needed rather than in advance. Almost all of the abilities are dynamic, I know, but Candace's power appears to take a little concentration, like Hiros. Claude's invisibility is dynamic (camo). Nathan's flight - Dynamic (Flight).--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:58, 5 March 2007 (EST)
***Also, I didn't mean to sound snappy there. :P --[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 22:59, 5 March 2007 (EST)


When this page refers to Candice’s “true form”, is it referring to “Candice” or to [[Betty, Part 1|Betty]]? I thought we only saw her true form when she died. —[[User:Frungi|Frungi]] 19:51, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
==Spelling==
*To Betty, that's who we saw when she died. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:06, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
Although NBC.com likes to call her "Candice", the name is spelled "Candace"on [[the list]], which is the only canon source to date for the spelling.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 14:11, 8 March 2007 (EST)
**Right, but I mean before that, like in [[Candice Willmer#Parasite|Parasite]].

***Oh, in that case, she changed back to "Candice". She become so used to that form that it sort of became her default form, so when she was knocked out, that's what she reverted to. [[User:Intuitive Empath|Intuitive Empath]] - [[User talk:Intuitive Empath|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Intuitive Empath|Contributions]] 20:12, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
== Faith ==

What ever happened to her being called Faith? NBC sucks with their promo tags for episodes.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Baldbobbo]] 01:03, 9 March 2007 (EST)
* As far as I know, Faith was only ever in fan-published spoilers. Not that NBC doesn't suck sometimes, but this time, the first official mention of her was as Candace. Or Candice, at least. I guess they do suck after all.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 02:09, 9 March 2007 (EST)

== I'm so glad that.... ==

No has tried to change this page to "shapeshifting" [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green;">Heroe</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small>
* Why, is Candace Willmer's nickname "shapeshifting"? :) &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 10:25, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

== Real Appearance ==

Wouldn't it be funny if Sylar caught Candace, and she reverted to her normal form to be played by Rosie O'Donnell? --[[User:AverageMan|AverageMan]] 10:47, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
* 'cause if I was dumpy in real life and I could shape-shift, I'd appear to look pretty darn good. --[[User:AverageMan|AverageMan]] 19:24, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
** Neener-neener. I hate to say "I told ya so". See [[Betty]]. AverageMan shoots, he SCORES! --[[User:AverageMan|AverageMan]] 08:17, 10 July 2007 (EDT)
*** If they cast Rosie to play Betty in her true form then you get an extra point. :) ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 09:41, 10 July 2007 (EDT))
**** Bingo! Now if only my prediction about [[Theories:Evolved_Humans#Petrelli.2C_Nathan| Niki and Nathan's baby]] could come true. Then I would be super-cool, instead of just average. --[[User:AverageMan|AverageMan]] 13:05, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

== Changing the Effect? ==

Any thoughts on why they changed the visual effect used when Candace uses her power? Did they think it was too confusing, or do they want to show her more as a shapeshifter and less an illusionist? I guess that falls in line better with the original description of a character wielding a tremendous amount of sex appeal. Nevertheless, it was kind of jolting. It's not like they even tried to make it look the same as in Parasite. --[[User:ZyberGoat|ZyberGoat]] 00:06, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
*They've done similar things with some of the other powers (precognition and invisibility come to mind). I think it's a creative challenge to not repeat yourself. It also keeps the story moving ("We've already paraded the power the first time it was used, now we're just referencing it to make sure you remember.") And then there's the issue of different directors with different visions. Plus, it certainly helps keep the budget down. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 01:14, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

== Is the Illusion only visual? ==

Does her illusion only fool the eyes, or can it fool other senses too? If not, surely HRG would have noticed the difference in hairstyle and clothing while hugging 'Claire' in .07% --[[User:Havoc|Havoc]] 04:12, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
*In ''[[.07%]]'', Candace didn't seem to go "full force" with her power--she really only changed ''her'' appearance. In ''[[Parasite]]'', she exerted a lot more control over her surroundings. She was able to somehow hide Simone's body and change a few other details in the room. That's why her power is not called "shape-shifting" but "illusion". &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 06:45, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
**Just to be clear, I meant that if her power of illusion cannot fool the sense of touch, then HRG would have noticed a clear difference between what he was seeing (i.e. Claire's hair) and what he was feeling (Candace's hair). So is this what tipped him off that it wasn't really Claire? Or was it something else?--[[User:Havoc|Havoc]] 07:22, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
*** In the commentary, we learn that the original script had the following complete line of HRG to fake Claire: You're not you...you smell like a stripper. The writers removed the extra excerpt before it got filmed, and Jack and Hayden (HRG and Claire) argued futilely for them to reshoot it. So she either can't modify smell or she didn't know what Claire smelled like.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] 09:28, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
****More likely she didn't know her smell. She had met Sandra before making her illusion, so that's probably why she pulled Sandra off so well for Bennet to mistake his own wife.--[[User:Baldbobbo|Bob]] 10:28, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
*****Bennet even kissed Candace when she was Sandra, and it still fooled him. I think "Claire" came in the cell, there was no tipoff, other than a really bad lie. Bennet's a smart guy and he knows the resources the Company has, and is aware of "what your girl Candace can do." I'm sure he was thinking "Why is Claire here? That makes no sense? (And why is she wearing a cheerleading outfit?)" I believe it was just a case of Bennet using good logic, not a limitation in Candace's power. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 14:28, 29 April 2007 (EDT)
******I agree. I think it was a case of "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." He knew better than to fall for Candace's tricks again. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 11:35, 30 April 2007 (EDT)
* Hey, would a camera see Candace's real form, or her illusion? [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]]</small> 15:17, 30 April 2007 (EDT)
** We don't really know yet. If her power affects other people's minds (like ''The Shadow''), then a camera would see Candace's real form. If it actually creates a holographic image, then the camera might be fooled too.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 15:47, 30 April 2007 (EDT)
*** At first I was going to say this might have implications for observers that Candace isn't aware of. It just occurred to me though that Future Sylar was using Candace's powers to impersonate Nathan in Five Years Gone and showed as Nathan while on all the TV broadcasts to the nation (although I suppose it's still possible that Future Sylar could have been mass-affecting the entire world?). Guess we'll see.. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 16:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
*** Note that Candace mimicked Simone's voice long after she was dead, and Future Sylar mimicked Nathan's. I think, like Hana's wireless data transception, all this might be attempting to delve too far into "how it works" again. --[[User:Glue|Glue]] 16:29, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

== On others' pages ==

I think that when Candace imitates someone it should be on their pages as well, so that it is the same perspective as when watched on TV. It may have to be worded different, like: [[Jessica]] appears to... ...but is revealed to be [[Candace]]. The same for [[Sylar]] when he has her power. -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 15:47, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
* At first thought, I would tend to agree, but the character history section is a history for that specific individual. If Candace is aping Niki, then her actions aren't really a part of Niki's history. The whole reason the character histories are written confined to the character's perspective is that it thus limits their content to the character's own appearances and actions.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 15:58, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

== Move to Candice? ==
* We should probably discuss this, since her name has appeared as "Candice" on-screen, but we have the situation where we have two conflicting canon sources. Technically, neither spelling is confirmed, and I think the way we have it set up is sufficient (we note both spellings and the other redirects here, which is what we did with, say, [[Hana Gittelman]]), but is there a strong preference for moving this?--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 23:18, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
**Displayed as prominently as it was, I think it's probably time to make the switch. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 07:25, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
*** Yeah, I agree it should get moved. It's listed in the opening credits as "Candice". If only they had also listed her last name too.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 18:21, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
*** Wait, when was it spelled "Candice?" I didn't see that. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(contribs)</span>]]</small> [[Special:RandomPage|<sup>Random Page!</sup>]] 19:09, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
**** Opening credits of episode 21.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 19:10, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
** I just checked the episode and I see it, too. When they cut to the first scene with Candice and Micah it prints their names. I would change it to Candice and redirect Candace. As prominent as the on-screen info was if it were a typo I think they'd have seen it. They either changed their mind as to the spelling later on in the series, made a mistake on the original list spelling, or perhaps the [[Human Genome Project]] has her name misspelled. :) ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:23, 8 May 2007 (EDT))
*** It might just be a mistake. Let's wait to see if it happens again. [[User:Heroe|<span style="color:green">Heroe!</span>]]<small>[[User talk:Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Heroe|<span style="color:#000000">(contribs)</span>]]</small> [[Special:RandomPage|<sup>Random Page!</sup>]] 19:25, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
**** I believe that virtually every written reference to it except for [[The List]] has spelled it Candice, so if there's a mistake it's probably with [[The List]]. We dismissed NBC's spelling because they don't have the best record when it comes to details, but now we have strong corroborating evidence. ([[User:Admin|Admin]] 19:28, 8 May 2007 (EDT))
*****I think moving the page to Candice is a good idea. NBC spelled her last name Wilmer, but the list says Willmer. I'm torn as to which spelling it should be for the last name--we've never seen Candice Willmer, but the list is a better source than NBC (or is it?). I'm tending to think "Candice Willmer" is the better choice. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 06:54, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

== Fat and Old? ==

I don't remember her comments suggesting she is fat or old, they may have suggested that she may not be as attractive as she makes herself appear, but fat and old? Did I miss something? -[[User:Level|Lөv]][[User talk:Level|ө]][[Special:Contributions/Level|l]] 15:13, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
* In the Company's facility, Micah commented to Candice, "I have a cousin that eats like you. He's huge." And Candice replied, "So am I." Then later on, when Micah and Candice are at the polling station, there's an exchange where Candice replies that she might really look like Ms. Baker, and that Micah wouldn't know. It could be, though, that Candice is just teasing Micah both times, but I think that's what people have been discussing.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 04:08, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
** She also, when talking about how peoples judge your appearance, looks kind of sad... As if she already lived this experience before.. Something with her voice and eyes made me think this.. --&nbsp;[[User:FrenchFlo|'''FrenchFlo''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:FrenchFlo|<span style="font-size:8pt">(talk)</span>]]&nbsp;<span style="border: 1px solid black">[[Wikipedia:Toulouse|<span style="background-color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:red">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 04:16, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
**Fat, yes--but I'm not sure that it really implies being old. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 11:13, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
Ok, did any of you think that she's maybe just being a normal girl who thinks they are fat and ugly compared to other people, when clearly they're not?--[[User:Dylankidwell|The Empath]] 19:33, 19 May 2007 (EDT)
*We have new stuff about that question, according to the [[How to Stop an Exploding Man|season finale]], when Niki/Jessice knock her out, she fall on the floor and then, [[illusion|fake micah]] disapear. What is interesting is that Candice actually stay in the shape we know, I mean, when knocked out, if fake micah disapear, it means that she can't use her power anymore, so, she should be in her true shape. I mean that she is not fat and ugly, she is as we see her in every episode. --&nbsp;[[User:FrenchFlo|'''FrenchFlo''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:FrenchFlo|<span style="font-size:8pt">(talk)</span>]]&nbsp;<span style="border: 1px solid black">[[Wikipedia:Toulouse|<span style="background-color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color:red">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 07:37, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
**What's weird is that the writers more-or-less confirmed she's overweight in the last CBR--and then we didn't actually see it. Odd.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 12:41, 25 May 2007 (EDT)
***Here's what [http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10692 Joe Pokaski and Aron Coleite said]: "OR – she was still barely conscious – OR – her subconscious so strongly desired to be thin that she was able to maintain that form – OR – people might be over thinking this."--[[User:Ice Vision|Ice Vision]] 21:22, 1 June 2007 (EDT)
****My own thought was that she has spent so much time maintaining that particular illusion that she can literally hold it in her sleep. Knock her out and she shifts to her "default" illusion, not her true appearance. --[[User:Ted C|Ted C]] 10:18, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
****Hehe, as an informatician that is what as I thought, she may have a default shape!! :) --{{User:FrenchFlo/sig}} 10:29, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

==New Graphic Novel==
I know I might be jumping to conclusions, but does anyone else think that "Betty" is Candice? -- [[User:Cameth]] 11:23, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
*While nothing here should be changed until it's confirmed, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet.--[[User:MistressMerr|Leshia]] 06:27, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
** I had the same idea when i saw her power. it's not exactly like we have seen it work so far (most of the time she changed her own appearance except the time she kept Micah inside the room by making all doors appear closed), but never the less i think "Betty" is Candice! [[User:Waldmeister|Waldmeister]] 06:33, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
***I was thinking so, too - I remember when I first saw Candice I thought she looked kind of punky, so to see Betty all goth-like, it makes sense. --[[User:AcidBurn133|AcidBurn133]] 08:18, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
* I do! I do! Also makes sense that when she's knocked out in the S1 finale, she's wearing a goth t-shirt. --[[User:Kschang|Kschang]] 16:34, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

== New speculation? ==

Well... Candice Willmer was on [[the list]]... but her name (according to what we're all assuming from the novel which seems obvious) is Betty. Wouldn't that be the name on the list? Much like [[Eden McCain]], if she was on the list she'd most likely be listed as [[Sarah Ellis]]... so, maybe there will be some kind of plot twist, and this ''isn't'' actually Candice... the writers or someone interviewed DID mention that they would explore multiple people with similar powers.

Meh, doubt it, but putting Candice on the list and changing her name to Betty seems odd to me.--[[User:Riddler|Riddler]] 12:55, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
*Just means that she was already going by Candice (or rather, Candace) when her DNA got added to the Human Genome Project thing.--[[User:MistressMerr|Leshia]] 12:56, 5 July 2007 (EDT)
*Great question. We learned from [[Dale Smither]] that she gave blood 11 years prior, then signed a form allowing use in the [[Human Genome Project]]. I'm sure Chandra gathered the names on his list from many sources (it's doubtful that Claire, at 15 or younger, gave blood--remember, her name was on the list six months ago when Chandra contacted Mr. Bennet). Who knows where all the names come from. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 13:16, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

==New Page Formatting==
just to let you know im going to change Candice's page to a different format. If it doesn't work out, then i dont care if you change it back but i do want you guys to consider using this as a format for the other character pages. Sorry i cant wait longer.--[[User:Kettieli|Kettieli]] ([[User talk:Kettieli|talk]]) 21:07, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
* I suggested you might use the sandbox or a user subpage instead of modifying this or another major page. On this talk page, I added your signature for you (you can append <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> to do that yourself). Thanks for your assist. I prefer 2nd format that I was working on, but I think we can cooperate and use both. I'll try and fix this up a bit.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 23:06, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
*I'm not understanding the purpose of the format that's currently being used for this page. It eradicates jumps (for instance, [[Candice Willmer#The Hard Part]] no longer exists), and it is nonstandard. Sure, span ids could be inserted, but what's the point? Plus, I'm not interested in changing the format for 256 character pages, plus all the articles about items, locations, places, references, fan creations, you get my point. But even if all that were easy to change, I personally don't like this format. It's difficult to read and needs to be broken up into more digestible pieces. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 23:46, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
** I agree... I can see changing some of the longer histories like Candice's into summaries, but part of the episodic season did occur 5 years in the future and the rest in the previous dates that were mentioned... and if we include the graphic novels, we have to be even more broad so I'd include them maybe on the episode articles themselves but it's really superfluous imho. Anyways, I just changed the Candice article to the same season history type format we're using for FBI, etc. and I was able to use some of Kettieli's summarizing, so I hope he doesn't think his efforts were all for nothing.--[[User:MiamiVolts|MiamiVolts]] ([[User_talk:MiamiVolts|talk]]) 00:09, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
***Right, what Kettieli wrote wasn't bad--in fact, the content was quite good. I just didn't like the format, personally. I like the idea of a short and succinct summary of the season (for articles that have, say, more than 7 or 8 episodic summaries, or that are just arbitrarily "long") and a link to the full summary on a new subpage. I do think the summary as it is here needs to be pared down a bit and be less detailed--maybe 2 strong paragraphs--but it's a step in the right direction. -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 00:19, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
****I like the edit you made, but i'm going to move the graphic novel part up to the top since those events did occur before the events of season one--{{User:Kettieli|Kettieli}} 18:32, 18 July 2007

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Images of her Disguises

Instead of including thumbnails in the body of the episodes section, which generally doesn't happen on other character pages, maybe Candice (nee Betty) should get a gallery of guises below Notes. --FissionChips 14:13, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

  • I think that's a good idea. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
    • Done. I only moved the one shot because while attempting to populate the gallery, I faced the question on how many should be included on the article. All disguises? Only season two disguises? What counts as a disguise? Arguably, Candice wasn't disguised as the blonde twins, but was making Sylar see them. --FissionChips 14:31, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
      • How about the Mr. Campbell, Claire, Simone, Sandra, Jessica, Ms. Baker, Michelle, and the geisha. That's eight, which will make a nice little gallery. The gallery's name should just be "Gallery" for standardization. Don't forget to add Category:Galleries. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 14:57, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
        • And done again. I like the selection. I left out Claire as the one example I could find had Candice/Claire in transition. So I put in the Sylar-on-Sylar action shot; it's funny even when it makes me shudder. --FissionChips 15:29, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
        • I added the category during a section edit and "Candice Willmer" does not appear in Category:Galleries. Odd. --FissionChips 15:44, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
          • It's showing up for me. Are you going to the second page? It's listed under "W". -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:51, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
            • Yep, it's there. I swear I looked. --FissionChips 15:53, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
              • If you looked right after the edit, it may have taken awhile to register, since the category sort is actually going through template:character box. Sometimes it just takes a few minutes. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:58, 19 October 2007 (EDT)
  • What about Candice as appearing as her true self? We saw that when Sylar killed her. Why not put that in the gallery?--Bella 22:21, 24 October 2007 (EDT)
    • That wouldn't really be an example of her using her power. However, the gallery doesn't have a topic. If you want to replace an image, that's fine. I'd try to keep the gallery limited to 8, though, just for aesthetics. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2007 (EDT)

Beaming Beeman?

Should we include the info from Beeman's blog entry about the original Season 2 plans for Candice, and how they shortened her role down to one episode to try to accommodate Missy's new show? --Cylon 15:09, 5 December 2007 (EST)

Namechange to Candace?

  • Did the show really showed that the spelling of her name is "Candice"? Because maybe it is pronounced "Candice" with an "i", but then spelled "Candace" with an 'a', coz this is whats written in the list... I'm not really sure about this...--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 22:14, 12 December 2008 (EST)
    • This brings up another thing that bugs me. We're using "Candice", a first name listed all over the place (EXCEPT The List), and "Willmer", a last name used ONLY on The List. --Ricard Desi 00:09, 13 December 2008 (EST)
      • See here. "Candice" was used in screen text very prominently. "Candace" was shown only on the list, and not very prominently. Plus, since it's from the list, the difference in spelling may have been because Chandra misspelled it or it was misspelled when he got his information from the Human Genome Project. As for the last name, the only time we've seen it spelled "Wilmer" that I'm aware of is on NBC.com, which isn't always very reliable (if you want examples, let me know). But the list shown onscreen hierarchically outranks NBC.com. There's no good answer here because we're dealing with conflicting sources--that's one thing if it's about somebody's age or something like that. But when it comes to a person's name and the title of the article, that's a bit different. Ultimately, it boils down to this for me: the onscreen text outranks the text on the list (for the first name), but the text on the list outranks anything on NBC.com (for the last name). -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 01:20, 13 December 2008 (EST)

A heck of a lot of people seem to misspell her name like that...--ERROR 11:20, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

Trivia

I'm not too sure on how to edit these pages and add sections but if someone wanted to add this. The Two Names Betty uses in the TV series could be a possible nod to Candice Michelle, A Professional wrestler ViciousKillgasm 21 December 2008

“True form”

When this page refers to Candice’s “true form”, is it referring to “Candice” or to Betty? I thought we only saw her true form when she died. —Frungi 19:51, 19 October 2009 (EDT)

  • To Betty, that's who we saw when she died. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:06, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
    • Right, but I mean before that, like in Parasite.
      • Oh, in that case, she changed back to "Candice". She become so used to that form that it sort of became her default form, so when she was knocked out, that's what she reverted to. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:12, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
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