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| Charles had a power similar to [[Sanjog]]'s, like a sort of "spirit guide".||Peter's dream about flying occurs when he falls asleep while in Charles' apartment ([[Peter%27s_dreams#Genesis|''Genesis'']]); <br>Peter had a dream about Charles around the same time Charles died. (''[[Nothing to Hide]]'') <br>Peter had a dream about his first day working for Charles ''after'' he was dead ([[Peter%27s_dreams#How to Stop an Exploding Man|''How to Stop an Exploding Man'']])|| |
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{{minus}}Peter's dream was most likely his power of empathy in action; he connected with Charles's feelings and emotions. |
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:{{plus}}Peter probably absorbed this power from Charles=his power of empathy in action. |
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{{plus}} However, Peter was somehow able to speak to Charles after his death and Charles seemed to be fully aware of what Peter was doing at that moment. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'') |
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{{minus}} Peter's second dream with Charles may have been just a dream. |
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:{{plus}}In [[Mohinder Suresh|Mohinder's]] [[Sanjog#Seven_Minutes_to_Midnight|dream]], the only person he actually ''interacted'' with was the "dream manipulator," [[Sanjog]]. In Peter's [[Peter%27s_dreams#How to Stop an Exploding Man|dreams]], the only person he can interact with (or can see him) is [[Charles Deveaux]]. |
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::{{plus}}Charles is in more than one of Peter's dreams as an active participant ([[Peter%27s_dreams#Nothing to Hide|''Nothing to Hide'']]; [[Peter%27s_dreams#How to Stop an Exploding Man|''How to Stop an Exploding Man'']]), or is present ([[Peter%27s_dreams#Genesis|''Genesis'']]). |
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{{plus}}Peter's first dream occurred during [[Nathan's accident]], just after he became a nurse ("Nathan enters offering him a pair of ladies' shoes as a present for becoming a nurse" from ''[[Six Months Ago]]''). |
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| ⚫ | | Charles was the father of D.L. Hawkins and grandfather to [[Micah Sanders]]. || None || {{plus}} The lives of D.L. and Niki were supposedly manipulated by Linderman in the hopes of arranging Micah's birth. Charles has presumably known Linderman for decades and may be a willing participant in the breeding of evolved humans.<br /> |
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| Charles had the power of [[wikipedia:astral projection|astral projection]].||None||{{plus}}Charles was in a coma for an extended period and in some depictions, "astral travelers" become unconscious as their mind travels elsewhere.<br>{{plus}}Charles said that while asleep he had been flying around the world and seeing things happening. The accounts of those who claim to have experienced astral projection are very similar to this description. |
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{{plus}} D.L.'s father is unknown and Simone's mother is unknown.<br /> |
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{{note}} Angela Petrelli and Kaito Nakamura were also participants in the conspiracy and had super powered offspring.<br /> |
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{{minus}} Just because D.L. and Deveaux are both black, doesn't mean they're related. That would be like saying that Niki is also Linderman's daughter. That theory is just as liable.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} We don't know D.L.'s and since everyone seems connected on the series, it is plausible.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} We do know that D.L. grew up as one of those "troubled kids on the streets" (in ''[[Landslide]]'', we see D.L.'s old mugshots, saved in Linderman's dossier on him). Thus, D.L. is most likely not a Deveaux, seeing as Simone Deveaux enjoyed a much more privileged upbringing.<br /> |
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::{{plus}} Claire is Nathan's illegitimate child, he never knew about her until Meredith called.<br /> |
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| Arthur Petrelli stole Charles' ability. || Charles displayed telepathy in 1961 but not once in all of season 1.<br />Arthur stole telepathy from someone. || {{minus}} In season 1, he still knew Peter was there when no-one else did-perhaps by reading his mind. Also, he said something about being able to see love in him, or something like that.<br /> |
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| Charles had the power of premonitions slightly differently than [[Isaac]]'s power of [[precognition]]. Charles could have dreamed the future and recalled the images upon awakening.||None||[[Peter]] experienced day dreams when he was around Charles wherein he saw the future. (''[[Genesis]]'') |
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:{{plus}} Charles seems very determined to protect those with powers, and with the existence of a formula he would lose nothing and the company would become stronger.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} His dreams were not accurate. (''[[Genesis]]'') |
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{{plus}} The sound effect used for when Charles uses telepathy is the same sound effect for when Arthur uses telepathy.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} Time-travel tends to render predictions weird; it's hard to tell if Charles' dreams were wrong or if time-traveling changed things. |
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:{{minus}} This is the same sound effect for when [[Maury]] and [[Matt]] use their telepathy, as well.<br /> |
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{{plus}}He also had a [[Peter's dreams|dream]] where all the main [[evolved humans]] came together during the New York explosion. (''[[Fallout]]'') |
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::{{plus}} Maury and Matt never lost their powers.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} However, the dream was very inaccurate. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'') |
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{{plus}} If Charles had his ability in Season 1, Peter would have absorbed it similar to how he absorbed his mother's precognitive dreaming.<br /> |
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{{note}} He may have gotten the power, leading to the feedback when he met Matt.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} The feedback happened cause both read each other's minds at the same time, Peter and Matt have used telepathy together and feedback didn't happen.<br /> |
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{{note}} It is possible that Arthur absorbed the power through empathy, either from Maury or Charles, allowing Charles to retain the ability up to his death.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Arthur can't absorb abilities through empathy.<br /> |
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:{{plus}} No, but BTE confirmed he can choose whether or not to strip someone of their power while copying.<br /> |
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::{{minus}} He could do that only after getting Peter's ability, he could choose to acquire an ability with [[Power absorption|his own ability]] or with [[Empathic mimicry|his son's]]. That's what BTE said.<br /> |
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{{plus}} Having two members who were only telepaths in the Company doesn't make sense.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} By that logic, [[Arthur]] wouldn't need anyone else.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Seeing as abilities are random, the Company could have been made entirely of telepaths if they met each other.<br /> |
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| Charles is present in Peter's mind. || Peter dreamed of Charles shortly after he died. || {{plus}} He could be using telepathy to mentally visit Peter in his dreams.<br /> |
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{{minus}} It is unknown if he [[Power absorption|still had]] his ability at that time.<br /> |
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{{plus}} [[Usutu]] appeared to Matt after his death.<br /> |
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| ⚫ | | Charles was the father of D.L. Hawkins and grandfather to [[Micah Sanders]].||None||{{plus}} The lives of D.L. and Niki were supposedly manipulated by Linderman in the hopes of arranging Micah's birth. |
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| Charles could use his telepathy to access [[precognition]] like [[Matt Parkman]] can. || None || {{plus}} Simone tells Peter that when Charles awoke from his coma, he had a dream where he was flying and saw the world in pain (''[[Nothing to Hide]]''). This seems to reflect the [[explosion future|future]] that was supposed to have occurred in that time line.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Claude was able to see an invisible Peter and Claude is not a mimic. |
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::{{note}} Being able to see other invisible people could be a property of the [[invisibility]] power instead of power mimicry. |
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{{plus}} Claude implied that he knows (of) more people with power mimicry. He also had a habit of hanging around on Charles' rooftop.<br>{{note}} The series has yet to show multiple people with the same 'root' (not [[power theft|stolen]] or [[Power mimicry|absorbed]]) power, although by Claude's comment it is possible that they exist. |
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:{{minus}}[[Nathan Petrelli]] and [[West]] both have the power of flight. [[Claire]] and [[Adam Monroe]] also both have the power of regeneration. |
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<br>{{minus}}He commented that invisibility would be a good power to have, implying that he does not have it. He would probably have met Claude by now, either through his work with the [[Company]] or on one of the many times Claude visited the roof of his building, meaning that if he was an empath, he would have absorbed invisibility. |
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| Peter's encounter with Charles was a dream created by [[Sanjog Iyer]].||None||{{minus}} In other dreams formed by Sanjog, the dreamer was not able to interact with the people he saw.<br> |
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:{{note}} Peter was not exactly "interacting" with Charles; more, Charles was somehow able to detect Peter, and monologued at him. |
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| Charles Deveaux has the power to negate the powers of others.||None||{{plus}} He was able to see [[Peter Petrelli]] invisible. |
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:{{note}} He seemed to be aware that Peter was watching the [[vision]]. |
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| Charles Deveaux is [[Haram]]||None||{{plus}} Both Haram and Charles and connected to [[the Company]] and we've yet to see how Charles is.<br>{{note}} Perhaps Charles wanted to retire to be with Simone. <br>{{plus}} Claude goes to the Deveaux roof, because it is like his home, where Charles (Haram) his ex partner/friend lives. That is where he felt safe. <br>{{minus}}Charles is at least 70 in 2006, which would make him at least 54 in 1990; Haram appears much younger than 54.<br>{{minus}}Charles is African American, yet Haram is Arab. |
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| Charles Deveaux's ill health was not from natural causes. || None || {{plus}} Most other members of the [[Group of twelve|group]] are around the same age and appear to be in much better health. |
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{{plus}} He could easily have been [[healing|healed]] by [[Linderman]] if the causes were natural. |
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:{{minus}} The limits of Linderman's ability are unknown, as is the status of the friendship between Charles and Linderman. |
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{{plus}} Deveaux died before [[Mohinder]] found a cure for the [[Shanti virus]]. (''[[Episode: The Hard Part|The Hard Part]]'') |
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| Charles receives symbolic dreams or waking visions, which reveal important things (but not necessarily true in every detail) about the past, present, or future. Since Peter has absorbed this power, he can communicate with past-Charles through a shared dream when Charles is seeing the future.||Peter has a vivid dream of his past self and speaks to Charles in his dream. (''[[How to Stop an Exploding Man]]'')||{{plus}}Peter's visions don't all come true literally, but reveal truths that he otherwise could not know, such as Nathan's flying, himself as the Bomb, and Charles' friendship with Angela.<br> |
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{{plus}}Peter suddenly fainting and finding himself in a vivid dream of the past could have been triggered by Charles suddenly having a vision of the future, or even deliberately "calling" Peter to prevent a premature explosion.<br> |
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{{note}}This could be how Charles and Angela knew that the fate of New York would depend on one of the two brothers. |
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| Charles was the father of D.L. Hawkins and grandfather to Micah Sanders. | None | + The lives of D.L. and Niki were supposedly manipulated by Linderman in the hopes of arranging Micah's birth. Charles has presumably known Linderman for decades and may be a willing participant in the breeding of evolved humans. + D.L.'s father is unknown and Simone's mother is unknown.
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| Arthur Petrelli stole Charles' ability. | Charles displayed telepathy in 1961 but not once in all of season 1. Arthur stole telepathy from someone. |
- In season 1, he still knew Peter was there when no-one else did-perhaps by reading his mind. Also, he said something about being able to see love in him, or something like that.
+ The sound effect used for when Charles uses telepathy is the same sound effect for when Arthur uses telepathy.
+ If Charles had his ability in Season 1, Peter would have absorbed it similar to how he absorbed his mother's precognitive dreaming.
• It is possible that Arthur absorbed the power through empathy, either from Maury or Charles, allowing Charles to retain the ability up to his death.
+ Having two members who were only telepaths in the Company doesn't make sense.
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| Charles is present in Peter's mind. | Peter dreamed of Charles shortly after he died. | + He could be using telepathy to mentally visit Peter in his dreams. - It is unknown if he still had his ability at that time. |
| Charles could use his telepathy to access precognition like Matt Parkman can. | None | + Simone tells Peter that when Charles awoke from his coma, he had a dream where he was flying and saw the world in pain (Nothing to Hide). This seems to reflect the future that was supposed to have occurred in that time line. |
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