Talk:Sylar's victims

Cryokinetics

• Has cryokinesis been confirmed? If not he or an accomplice could be using some kind of liquid nitrogen spray or something. (Admin 23:08, 9 November 2006 (EST))
  • I moved that bit to the theory section --Orne 23:34, 9 November 2006 (EST)
  • Technically, Telekinesis (the manipulation of kinetic energy, or the cause of an object's movement without movement of your own affecting it) can also be used in a number of other ways. Kinetic and Thermal energy are quite intertwined, and presumably one who could affect kinetic energies of objects without movement could also affect thermal energy in the same fashion, causing heat to flow from one point to another. Normally, when kinetic energy is shifted, work is done and heat generated. To use TK to freeze something or someone, the movement must simply be slowed or stopped. Without movement (molecular kinetic energy), there is no heat (thermal energy). Therefore, Telekinesis=Cryokinesis. Rihk 23:20, 20 November 2006 (EST)

Decapitation

I removed the references in the gallery to decapitation, since that's technically not what is being done. Decapitation is the removal of one's head. A more appropriate term for the murders would be scalping, I suppose. --ZyberGoat 00:25, 15 November 2006 (EST)

• How about encephalectomy?
  • Rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it? Probably too jargony for use in the image captions, but would be more appropriate in the article body.--Hardvice (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2006 (EST)

Eden

• I got the impression she shot herself with the gun, rather than letting Sylar get her power. Is it really clear that he forced her?--Hardvice (talk) 23:48, 4 December 2006 (EST)
  • He pulled her through the glass using telekinesis. I don't believe she committed suicide at that moment - I felt it was obvious she was coerced. Other opinions? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:39, 5 December 2006 (EST)
    • It's clearly suicide. He says he's going to steal her power, she turns the gun towards her and suddenly he has this "oh crap!" look on his face. No way he has that look if he made her pull the trigger. --Fcphantom 00:43, 5 December 2006 (EST)
      • I agree. He definitely looks as though it's an unplanned thing, and he just told her that he was going to steal her power. I call it self-sacrifice. --ZyberGoat 00:46, 5 December 2006 (EST)
        • Plus, if he was going to steal her brain, I'm sure he'd have used the good ol' telekinetic can opener trick. A gun seems like he's risking wasting her sweet, sweet brain.--Hardvice (talk) 00:50, 5 December 2006 (EST)
  • I just watched the scene over again, and you're right, it was a self sacrifice. I think I misinterpreted the hand slowly turning for Sylar's telekinetic powers. ... It does make that "oh crap" look Sylar gives afterwards very satisfying for the audience... As for the article, you're right, it shouldn't say he killed her, but there should be a note about it somewhere. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2006 (EST)
• Just as added confirmation, the graphic novel makes it clear that she killed herself to keep Sylar from gaining her gift. --ZyberGoat 12:47, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Sylar's victims series bar

Okay, so I'm looking at the series bars, and it makes sense to me that we would have a series bar for Sylar's victims. These are the following people that would be on the bar:

• Brian Davis
• a white male (David)
• an old man
• Chandra
• James Walker
• Mrs. Walker
• Isaac
• a uniformed cop
• an FBI agent
• Charlie
• Jackie Wilcox

Perhaps we would have a "See Also" section for his attempted victims (or maybe just call it "Attempted Victims", or maybe not at all). I know we don't have articles for all these people, which might be a problem. Maybe they could link to a picture if nothing else exists? Or maybe we should write an article for the others? Any thoughts on the bar or how to link it? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:07, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Lead Image

I like the pic of Charlie as our lead image for Sylar's victims. I wanted to have the one of Sylar standing over Jackie considered, too. Obviously we would have to resize it. The pic is not as high quality as the Charlie pic. However, it actually shows Sylar with his victim, and there's something to be said about that. Plus, there's less chance of confusion in getting "Sylar's victims" mixed up with "brain removal"... I'm cool with either, I just wanted to bring up an alternative. Thoughts? - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:54, 21 December 2006 (EST)

• Agree. (I had them the other way 'round, then realized he didn't actually remove Charlie's brain.) I'll see if I can get a bigger cap of Sylar and Jackie.--Hardvice (talk) 16:03, 21 December 2006 (EST)

Cleanup

I just thought I should make a note of some of the cleanup I did. The list was looking pretty unruly. Though this is one of the site's first lists, I decided to take a note from the other lists and organize it alphabetically, rather than chronologically -- the cites show basic chronology, show there is no need to organize it as such. As a result, I also placed each person's bolded name first, for readability. Finally, I changed the "Presumed Victims" to just "Victims". Really, I think it's pretty well-estabilished that Sylar has killed all those people. I think the only one that's a bit ambiguous is Chandra, but even that is pretty obvious. I say we leave it as though Sylar killed Chandra, and if anything further is revealed, then we change it. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:41, 17 February 2007 (EST)

Mr. Bennet

Should Mr. Bennet be an "Attempted Victim"? Sylar could have easily killed him before leaving the cell, but he didn't.

• Well, he's definitely a victim of Sylar's abuse, though he didn't kill him. Hmm, maybe we should rename the section. Maybe "Victims Not Killed"? That would cover all thowse already there, including Bennet. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:11, 1 March 2007 (EST)