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I don't really have too strong an opinion about whether or not this page exists, but I think we should discuss it here first. This is a confirmed ability. However, we have never seen it in action. It wouldn't be the first time we have a page for such a situation--an ability that is confirmed, but we haven't seen. Until Sylar, we had never seen Bridget Bailey's [[clairsentience]]--we had only taken her word from her emails. We had never seen the Constrictor use his ability--he started to, but if I'm not mistaken, he's never actually used it fully. We don't know the full extent of [[David's ability]] because we don't know if he's used it fully or not, and we're not really sure about [[nerve gas emission]] (the guy was sweating, but was he emitting nerve gases?)...The point is not to debate those other examples (which may or may not apply to Syn's ability), but to discuss whether or not to include empathic manipulation. My gut says to allow the page since we have so much information about it, but another part of me says that we really don't need the page at all, that it can all be included on Syn's page. I don't know. Any other thoughts? (In the meantime, I'm going to clean up the page so it at least is put to a fair test.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:14, 25 February 2009 (EST) |
I don't really have too strong an opinion about whether or not this page exists, but I think we should discuss it here first. This is a confirmed ability. However, we have never seen it in action. It wouldn't be the first time we have a page for such a situation--an ability that is confirmed, but we haven't seen. Until Sylar, we had never seen Bridget Bailey's [[clairsentience]]--we had only taken her word from her emails. We had never seen the Constrictor use his ability--he started to, but if I'm not mistaken, he's never actually used it fully. We don't know the full extent of [[David's ability]] because we don't know if he's used it fully or not, and we're not really sure about [[nerve gas emission]] (the guy was sweating, but was he emitting nerve gases?)...The point is not to debate those other examples (which may or may not apply to Syn's ability), but to discuss whether or not to include empathic manipulation. My gut says to allow the page since we have so much information about it, but another part of me says that we really don't need the page at all, that it can all be included on Syn's page. I don't know. Any other thoughts? (In the meantime, I'm going to clean up the page so it at least is put to a fair test.) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 22:14, 25 February 2009 (EST) |
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*Yes, but unlike those examples. we've never even seen Syn use her ability in a graphic novel, webisode, or any other part of Evolutions. We've just been given an AT page for it, nothing else. With bridget we at least got stories of her power use and a picture of a plaque. With Syn we have no examples of it being used. therefore no images to use besides the AT photo, which would be a terrible choice. We really have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise we'll be soon making a page for deoxygenation and the Guyanan local's ability. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 22:58, 25 February 2009 (EST) |
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Revision as of 03:58, 26 February 2009
| Ability Naming Conventions | |
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| The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order: | |
| 1. Canon Sources | Episodes |
| 2. Near-canon Sources | Webisodes, Graphic Novels, iStories, Heroes Evolutions |
3. Secondary Sources |
Episode commentary, Interviews, Heroes: Survival |
| 4. Common names for abilities | Names from other works |
| 5. Descriptions of abilities | Descriptions |
| 6. Possessor's name | If no non-speculative description is possible |
| Source/Explanation | |
| The name "empathic manipulation" was explicitly listed in the January 27, 2009, press release about Syn Anders. | |
User:Shadowulf1 09:33, 28 January 2009 (EST) I think it's a good name, because it may seem like an extension of Persuasion at first, but it must first make physical and emotional contact; that's awesome...
existence of page
I don't really have too strong an opinion about whether or not this page exists, but I think we should discuss it here first. This is a confirmed ability. However, we have never seen it in action. It wouldn't be the first time we have a page for such a situation--an ability that is confirmed, but we haven't seen. Until Sylar, we had never seen Bridget Bailey's clairsentience--we had only taken her word from her emails. We had never seen the Constrictor use his ability--he started to, but if I'm not mistaken, he's never actually used it fully. We don't know the full extent of David's ability because we don't know if he's used it fully or not, and we're not really sure about nerve gas emission (the guy was sweating, but was he emitting nerve gases?)...The point is not to debate those other examples (which may or may not apply to Syn's ability), but to discuss whether or not to include empathic manipulation. My gut says to allow the page since we have so much information about it, but another part of me says that we really don't need the page at all, that it can all be included on Syn's page. I don't know. Any other thoughts? (In the meantime, I'm going to clean up the page so it at least is put to a fair test.) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2009 (EST)
- Yes, but unlike those examples. we've never even seen Syn use her ability in a graphic novel, webisode, or any other part of Evolutions. We've just been given an AT page for it, nothing else. With bridget we at least got stories of her power use and a picture of a plaque. With Syn we have no examples of it being used. therefore no images to use besides the AT photo, which would be a terrible choice. We really have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise we'll be soon making a page for deoxygenation and the Guyanan local's ability. --Piemanmoo 22:58, 25 February 2009 (EST)