Talk:Illusion

Heh, I couldn't think of a better word than Sadomas...you know what I mean. But I wanted to point out that she finds pleasure in his pain. --Riddler 22:46, 5 March 2007 (EST)

• "Sadistically". Sadism isn't necessarily sexual and masochism isn't necessarily sexual, but "sadomasochism" pretty much is.--Hardvice (talk) 05:22, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Whoever made this

I was very tempted to make this in advance to make sure no one called it shapeshifting. Very glad it is called what it is. Good job.--Baldbobbo 00:07, 6 March 2007 (EST)

• Agree -- shape-shifting is another power. Similar, but not the same. (And it's not "Dynamic Camouflage" either.) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:08, 6 March 2007 (EST)
  • It seemed like shapeshifting to me. How is it different? Heroe 16:30, 6 March 2007 (EST)
    • For one thing, she's able to change her surroundings. See the discussion below for hiding Simone's body. For another, she took Simone's shape (and current outfit, even) without having met, seen, or heard her, implying she's doing something to appear as people expect her target to appear. Since that depends on her observer's perceptions, it's more of an illusion that shape shifting.--Hardvice (talk) 16:36, 6 March 2007 (EST)
• Thank you, Baldbabbo :) --Riddler 21:31, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Environment

I've seen the claim that she made Simone's body disappear both here and on a BBS. I don't remember that happening. As I recall, the police never had a line of sight to the bed where her body lay. Is there picture confirmation? --Ted C 09:44, 6 March 2007 (EST)

• If you check out the scene where she first transforms from Simone back into Candace, watch the bed behind her. It goes from being empty to showing Simone's body laying on it. Not sure if there are any good pics, but just check out the scene and you should see it. (Admin 09:48, 6 March 2007 (EST))
  • Alas, no recording. Thing is, I'm looking at Powers_candace_simone_1.jpg‎ in which Candace is still disguised as Simone, and I'm seeing what looks like Simone's body in the background. --Ted C 10:02, 6 March 2007 (EST)
    • That picture comes from her second transformation into Simone in which she doesn't conceal the body. When you get ahold of a recording you'll be able to see it, it's pretty clear when you watch the bed. (Admin 10:05, 6 March 2007 (EST))
      • We should work on getting a pic, then. It would be a fairly important piece of supporting evidence for the limits description. --Ted C 10:06, 6 March 2007 (EST)
        • Someone made a animation. -Lөvөl 12:01, 6 March 2007 (EST)
          • That's too cool not to use on the article. Heroe 21:43, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Mrs Bennet

I noticed in the note, how it was asked how Candace 'replicated' Mrs Bennet, without previously being in contact with her. I would have to go back and re-watch the show again, but didn't HRG make two visits to talk with Mrs Bennet? What if:

• Visit #1 was Candace appearing as HRG to study and learn how to mimic Mrs Bennet
• Visit #2 was Candace appearing as Mrs Bennet to trick the real HRG (who only came to visit the second time)? --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 03/6/2007 12:41 (EST)
  • It's Simone -- not Sandra -- who Candace had not met prior to impersonating her. --Ted C 12:56, 6 March 2007 (EST)
    • How do we know that ---- she worked for AWI --- she could have monitored Issac or someone else who was in close contact with Simone. She might have known Simone, look at Eden keeping tabs on Mohinder and Chandra. I know it might be unlikely, but we still don't know.Guy 10:44, 7 March 2007 (EST)
      • To our knowledge, Candace never met Simone before impersonating her. If we find out later that they'd previously met, a major mystery will be solved. --Ted C 11:34, 7 March 2007 (EST)
        • She still somehow knew what Simone was wearing when she was shot.--Hardvice (talk) 14:15, 7 March 2007 (EST)
        • It's probably like trying to figure out how a genetic difference in someone's brain allows them to fly. :) Personally, I'm more interested in seeing if her illusions only fool people or if she can fool animals and cameras for instance as well. (Admin 14:20, 7 March 2007 (EST))

Power template

For some reason I'm not seeing the Powers bar at the bottom of the page. I can see the template code for it in Edit mode, but it's not rendering. IE 6.0. --Ted C 13:31, 7 March 2007 (EST)

• I fixed it. The gallery was missing </gallery> at the end so it was messing up the page below it. Thanks for pointing it out! :) (Admin 13:36, 7 March 2007 (EST))

Episode Commentary

• The commentary for Parasite has a neat discussion about this power. To boil it down to the useful bits, Christopher Zatta confirms that it is a mental illusion, not a physical transformation, and that she can affect her surroundings as well. They also talk about the special effects (which weren't yet finalized last Wednesday when they recorded the commentary) and Chris mentions again how most of the character's powers are mental rather than physical. Worth a watch, though in general it's one of the weaker commentaries in that Allan Arkush, while full of insight into the details of the production process, is evidently allergic to talking about what's actually happening on the screen.--Hardvice (talk) 14:44, 7 March 2007 (EST)