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<s>I'm not understanding why [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Nathan_Petrelli&curid=1419&diff=90278&oldid=89781 this was removed] from this page. The letter Dallas received was not talking about Peter (who is only 26, which means he was born in 1979 or 1980, well after the [[Vietnam War]]). Sure, I suppose Mr. Petrelli could have had another son we don't know about and who has never been mentioned in the world of ''Heroes'', but I think we need to assume that this letter was talking about Nathan. The note that was removed, granted, speculates on the age a child walks, and I agree that probably doesn't need to be there--but it is qualified by stating that Nathan's exact age is unknown. I don't think there's any harm in giving an age that is approximated, so long as the reasoning is stated and it says somewhere that the exact age is not known. The reasoning, however, that the comic is not an actual reflection of the TV series does not make sense to me. This wiki is not a reference for the television series, but for the world of ''Heroes'', which includes the graphic novel. Now, I understand [[canon]] and all--if in ''[[Lizards]]'' [[Angela]] says, "Nathan, you should act your age! 35-year-old men should not be flying around New York!", then we have a case of episodic evidence trumping GN evidence. But the information from Dallas's letter is not even in the main article space or the infobox, it's in the notes, which seems fine to me. Am I missing something?<s> Oh. [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Nathan_Petrelli&curid=1419&diff=90279&oldid=90278 Never mind]. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:53, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
<s>I'm not understanding why [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Nathan_Petrelli&curid=1419&diff=90278&oldid=89781 this was removed] from this page. The letter Dallas received was not talking about Peter (who is only 26, which means he was born in 1979 or 1980, well after the [[Vietnam War]]). Sure, I suppose Mr. Petrelli could have had another son we don't know about and who has never been mentioned in the world of ''Heroes'', but I think we need to assume that this letter was talking about Nathan. The note that was removed, granted, speculates on the age a child walks, and I agree that probably doesn't need to be there--but it is qualified by stating that Nathan's exact age is unknown. I don't think there's any harm in giving an age that is approximated, so long as the reasoning is stated and it says somewhere that the exact age is not known. The reasoning, however, that the comic is not an actual reflection of the TV series does not make sense to me. This wiki is not a reference for the television series, but for the world of ''Heroes'', which includes the graphic novel. Now, I understand [[canon]] and all--if in ''[[Lizards]]'' [[Angela]] says, "Nathan, you should act your age! 35-year-old men should not be flying around New York!", then we have a case of episodic evidence trumping GN evidence. But the information from Dallas's letter is not even in the main article space or the infobox, it's in the notes, which seems fine to me. Am I missing something?</s> Oh. [http://heroeswiki.com/index.php?title=Nathan_Petrelli&curid=1419&diff=90279&oldid=90278 Never mind]. :) -- {{User:Ryangibsonstewart/sig}} 20:53, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

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I find it MIGHTY interesting that Nate's daughter (Claire Bennet) supposedly died in a fire 14 years before in Texas, and then Nate saves somebody's else's daughter from burning in the graphic novel in New York City. There are no coincidences in this show. You'd think Nate would have felt guilty about not being able to save Claire or something, and wanted to kind of atone for that. Or maybe he tried and failed to save her...or thought he had...

...Or maybe he caused the fire in an attempt to hide the fact that he had an illegitimate daughter. Or perhaps he doesn't know squat about the fire. Now I don't really think those ideas are true, but there's still a lot of speculation regarding a very interesting past incident about which we have yet to learn a lot... And he certainly has a long list of things about which he should be feeling guilty, imho. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2007 (EST)
I'd have to concur that it is a curious coincidence that the graphic novel revealed Nathan quietly using his flight ability to save people from a fire about the same time he saved Peter from falling, early in the first season. However, since we don't know if all of the graphic novels are being treated canonically by the television writing staff, we have no choice but to assume it was a coincidence. Surely Claire's mother didn't cause the fire in New York as she's been in Kermit the past two months. Thematically however, it is clear that we the audience are to envision Nathan repeatedly in the eye of a firestorm. -- ZachsMind 17:07, 11 February 2007 (EST)

Somebody will Die

I really think Nathan will be the somebody to die. I think he'll be killed by Jessica. I also think that Peter will get Jessica's power, and he'll see Nathan in mirrors and be able to talk to him after death. --Xmuskrat 09:21, 14 February 2007 (EST)

  • See, I think it's actually "Someone flies, someone dyes", meaning Simone will "fly" when she takes up Isaac's drug habit, and will get so high she'll dye her hair purple. :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 09:29, 14 February 2007 (EST)
    • Hehe. Perhaps Syler Kills Nathan. Nathan Dies, and then immediately, Syler flies. --Xmuskrat 09:31, 14 February 2007 (EST)
    • That's just silly, Ryan. You know Simone isn't allowed to appear in an episode for more than 30 seconds!--Hardvice (talk) 12:59, 14 February 2007 (EST)
      • Yes, I know, but I read a spoiler that they're going to break tradition and have an entirely Simone-centric episode. Granted, most of it is just her brushing her hair and wearing black & white with red accents ... :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:34, 14 February 2007 (EST)
  • I heard a rumor that, now that Natalie has won every possible Grammy under the sun, Adrian's going to retire and be a kept man.--Hardvice (talk) 13:41, 14 February 2007 (EST)

Military

Could someone remind me why Nathan apears in the Military cat ? Thanks a lot. --FrenchFlo(talk)(contribs) 16:31, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

  • It was mentioned that he had served in the Military in one of his campaigns, see notes . -Lөvөl 16:38, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
    • His campaign video was also included as an Easter Egg on Trial By Fire. Watch it here. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:56, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Ok, I'm pretty sure the video didn't say he fought in Bosnia, Serbia, and Rwanda. Heroe(talk) 20:24, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
        • You're right--it says "served his country" in those places. I'll fix it up now. — RyanGibsonStewart ([[User

talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 20:28, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

couldn't it mean he served as a diplomat? since no US troops ever served in Rwanda JD 20:48, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

  • Well, this is a piece a fiction, remember? Heroe(talk) 20:49, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
Yes, but that a bit pedantic since theres been no other evidence that its not set in our reality and timeline, in which case maybe Britain fought in Vietnam which makes the war buddies theories about Linderman pausible, so unless you are saying its an alternative history piece of fiction, its either a goof, or its misintepretation of the Ad. JD 22:28, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
  • It says "soldier" on the screen. I think being in the army is a pretty fair assumption to make. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:06, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
    • It also says "Fighter" "Leader" and "Visionary" couldn't it be used in the sense of police officers being soldiers in the war on crime.JD 22:28, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
      • Yes, of course, he could be a soldier of love, too. :) However, I think the video makes it quite clear that Nathan was in the armed forces. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:48, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
        • I think he's a soldier in the sense of the Destiny's Child song ... cause he's so skreet, yo.--Hardvice (talk) 00:51, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
          • well Petrelli is an Italian name maybe they could do a cross over with the sopranos. but on a more serious note, given that only a small US force was deployed in Bosnia, that no US military forces were ever active in Rwanda, not after somalia, and that Serbia which happen a good 5 years after Bosnia only the USN and USAF took part, no ground forces, so he'd have to been a pilot, which i guess makes sense with his ability. Does the US humanitarian alternative to combat service count the same as military service? or police deployments with the UN? JD 10:50, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

District Attourney?

I don't recall where he is mentioned as the district attorney, but as a prosecutor for the district attorney. Correct me please.--Bob 22:30, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

  • He's not the district attorney, but he's probably a district attorney--most likely an assistant district attorney, which is the title of prosecutors under the DA in DANY.--Hardvice (talk) 22:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
    • On the other hand, his campaign ad (both the online version and the version aired in Genesis) does say "as district attorney"...--Hardvice (talk) 22:38, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
      • ...and we all know how truthful campaign ads can be--especially fake ones found in Easter Eggs on graphic novels. :) — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 12:40, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

I think this is funny (or on purpose-you decide) Adrian Pasdar appeared in Top Gun as a Navy pilot. Wouldn't you know, 20 years later, his character Nathan Petrelli turns up having been a Navy pilot. Hmm... -- User:Koshakrl

Soldier in US military = US Army

Soldier, in terms of the United States Armed Forces, refers to the US Army. The terminology for personnel in the four branches of the Department of Defense:

  • Army - Soldier
  • Navy - Sailor
  • Air Force - Airman
  • Marine Corps - Marine

If you called a Marine a soldier, they'd more than likely make you regret that mistake.--Bob 06:26, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Another possible superpower

It is possible that Nathan Petrelli has another superpower we don't know of. In "How to Stop an Exploding Man" Nathan flew in from some distance answering a question asked just moments before by Claire. This could be either super hearing or the ability to read his brother Peter's mind.

  • Or it could just be a dramatic entrance. --Heroe!(talk) (contribs) 22:52, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
    • The whole concept of a flying dude has always baffled me, so I kinda think his power is more something like 'aerokinesis', like he can control air and the voices were somehow carried on the wind? Eh, whatever, it was a cool moment.--Leshia 23:04, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
      • I think it was just there for the dramatic effect.--Ice Vision 23:42, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Age

I'm not understanding why this was removed from this page. The letter Dallas received was not talking about Peter (who is only 26, which means he was born in 1979 or 1980, well after the Vietnam War). Sure, I suppose Mr. Petrelli could have had another son we don't know about and who has never been mentioned in the world of Heroes, but I think we need to assume that this letter was talking about Nathan. The note that was removed, granted, speculates on the age a child walks, and I agree that probably doesn't need to be there--but it is qualified by stating that Nathan's exact age is unknown. I don't think there's any harm in giving an age that is approximated, so long as the reasoning is stated and it says somewhere that the exact age is not known. The reasoning, however, that the comic is not an actual reflection of the TV series does not make sense to me. This wiki is not a reference for the television series, but for the world of Heroes, which includes the graphic novel. Now, I understand canon and all--if in Lizards Angela says, "Nathan, you should act your age! 35-year-old men should not be flying around New York!", then we have a case of episodic evidence trumping GN evidence. But the information from Dallas's letter is not even in the main article space or the infobox, it's in the notes, which seems fine to me. Am I missing something? Oh. Never mind. :) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 20:53, 18 August 2007 (EDT)