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The only exception is Nathan's flight, so far. Maybe in general a power cancels the same power out? [[User:Webrunner|Webrunner]] 13:49, 31 January 2007 (EST)
The only exception is Nathan's flight, so far. Maybe in general a power cancels the same power out? [[User:Webrunner|Webrunner]] 13:49, 31 January 2007 (EST)
: I think it's axiomatic that when a person possesses an ability, that person cannot be directly harmed by it. Obviously, when Hiro stops time, he himself doesn't stop (that would be weird); when Claude is invisible, he can still see himself; Ted is not harmed by the radiation he uses to destroy other things; likewise with Mrs. Gordon's fire. So when these people use these powers around Peter, it's not that they don't work--in fact they clearly do in every case--it's just that Peter has the same power, and hence the same benefit of immunity that the original power wielder has.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:14, 31 January 2007 (EST)
: I think it's axiomatic that when a person possesses an ability, that person cannot be directly harmed by it. Obviously, when Hiro stops time, he himself doesn't stop (that would be weird); when Claude is invisible, he can still see himself; Ted is not harmed by the radiation he uses to destroy other things; likewise with Mrs. Gordon's fire. So when these people use these powers around Peter, it's not that they don't work--in fact they clearly do in every case--it's just that Peter has the same power, and hence the same benefit of immunity that the original power wielder has.--[[User:E rowe|E rowe]] 14:14, 31 January 2007 (EST)

== Radius of Mimicry ==
Could this distance between Claude walking away and Peter standing still before Peter returned to visibility indicate the radius at which Peter mimics an active power? [[User:Kail Ceannai|Kail Ceannai]] 16:18, 31 January 2007 (EST)

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Relationship with Nathan

Sorry, I'm still new around here and don't want to splash the waters until I know the system =) Should there be some sort of section describing Nathan and Peter's relationship? Specifically, that Nathan frowns upon Peter's career choice and that Nathan considering Peter the less favored son? Kail Ceannai 02:10, 29 November 2006 (EST)

  • It certainly wouldn't hurt. Personally, I think as we get to know the characters better, we'll be better off focusing on articles about the characters, rather than a strict character history (which is already getting kind of bloated and will probably need to be summarized and moved to a subpage by the end of the season.) I'd say go for it, and we can do the same for the other main characters over time. Maybe an "About" section before the "History" section would be a good way to make it consistent?--Hardvice (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Powers mimicked

  • Let's keep an eye on the section about powers he may not have conclusively mimicked, we dont want it to become another list of Sylar's theorized powers. :) If it generates debate let's just move that part of it to Theories so we don't have to worry about it. (Admin 22:44, 6 December 2006 (EST))
    • So no theorizing about "What if the Haitian and Peter were in the same room together?" Aw, dang! - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2006 (EST)
    • Yeah, I tried to keep it as confirmed as possible, and yet complete enough that it doesn't degenerate into a speculation fest. It's much easier to say "yes, we noted that, thank you" than delete the same thing a thousand times and say "that's already on the Theories page".--Hardvice (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2006 (EST)

Empathy

  • Is it too late to suggest Peter's power be called "empathy" rather than "mimicry"? In Peter's case it seems suitable somehow. --Tocky 10:03, 23 December 2006 (EST)
    • It's discussed in the Theories page, but for now wall that's confirmed is that he can copy powers. Once more is known from a canon source, we can change it as appropriate.--Hardvice (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2006 (EST)
      • Fair enough. It's mostly just a semantic thing, anyway - I figure 'empathy' sort of conveys that the other person needs to be present, and also matches well with his character. I'm not going to argue about it, though. --Tocky 10:57, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Sickness

Peter seems to be sick since Homecoming. Should this article mention this illness? It seems to contradict his complete healing. He would have shook off the illness when Claire visited him in the jail. --AverageMan 15:13, 29 December 2006 (EST)

  • Peter's illness is addressed (briefly) in the Notes section. --Ted C 15:38, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Power Retention

Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere, but Tim Kring made a comment about Peter that seems to suggest that he doesn't just mimic the abilities of those he comes in contact with, but he actually gains them permanently. Apparently, this is one of the things that Claude will be doing - showing him how to access all the aquired abilities of his own will, rather than automatically. Until it comes up in the shows canon, I wouldn't go 100% on this, however, as things can and do change all the time. :) --Yoshie 09:40, 4 January 2007 (EST)

  • Very nice. Once it appears in the show, it can go on the page. I think the comment was that Peter acts as a "filing cabinet" and Claude can help him access the powers that he's absorbed prior. It kind of makes him the anti-Sylar. --Orne 10:11, 4 January 2007 (EST)
    • I think a reference to Tim Kring's comment can go on the Power mimicry page, but nothing too speculative, and nothing spoilerish. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:09, 4 January 2007 (EST)
      • Not a bad idea! I'm most curious to know how Peter's power works, if indeed he does retail all of the abilities since we've been told that they come from genetic anomolies (thanks to Sylar). If Peter is gaining all of these abilities permanently, then his DNA (again, like Sylar) must be a mess. If that's true, then he must also have the possibility of mutating into a completely different person (if enough DNA is permanently altered). Going to need a super-shrink at this rate.. anyone seen Dr. Brink (the Super-Hero Shrink)... --Yoshie 16:40, 4 January 2007 (EST)
        • At the very least, that would explain why he's so sick. For a long time, he'd only copied Nathan and Isaac. Perhaps it wasn't the number of powers he duped in a short timespan, but the overall quantity of powers he's duped. Each new evolved human he met made him a little bit sicker as his body struggled to keep up with the changes.--Hardvice (talk) 16:48, 4 January 2007 (EST)

The Bomb

My wife told me that Peter was on Ellen today and said, "I am the bomb." My wife said she couldn't tell if he was kidding and she couldn't remember if he said anything else about what will happen in the show. Did anyone who saw the interview draw any conclusions?--E rowe 15:07, 20 January 2007 (EST)

Didn't catch the interview. Out of context, one can't be sure if he means he's really great, or if he is echoing his last line from Fallout when he says "The explosion ... it's me." It's a pretty witty comment, though. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:41, 19 January 2007 (EST)

Offensive power interference

There might be something to this: every time but one that someone has tried to affect Peter with a power, so far, it either fails or is blocked or otherwise doesn't work:

  • Seeing through Claude's invisibility
  • Ninja Hiro's time stop
  • The telepathy feedback event
  • (possibly) defending himself against the telekinesis attacks

The only exception is Nathan's flight, so far. Maybe in general a power cancels the same power out? Webrunner 13:49, 31 January 2007 (EST)

I think it's axiomatic that when a person possesses an ability, that person cannot be directly harmed by it. Obviously, when Hiro stops time, he himself doesn't stop (that would be weird); when Claude is invisible, he can still see himself; Ted is not harmed by the radiation he uses to destroy other things; likewise with Mrs. Gordon's fire. So when these people use these powers around Peter, it's not that they don't work--in fact they clearly do in every case--it's just that Peter has the same power, and hence the same benefit of immunity that the original power wielder has.--E rowe 14:14, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Radius of Mimicry

Could this distance between Claude walking away and Peter standing still before Peter returned to visibility indicate the radius at which Peter mimics an active power? Kail Ceannai 16:18, 31 January 2007 (EST)