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reply - Actually I think Linderman is just a "recurring character" at this point. But let's see after another episode.
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*** Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. Still ... even unseen, he's a bigger story element than, say, Molly Walker or Jackie.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 16:18, 29 January 2007 (EST)
*** Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. Still ... even unseen, he's a bigger story element than, say, Molly Walker or Jackie.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 16:18, 29 January 2007 (EST)
**** I do think he's weird here, but I see no other option ... unless we make "Portal:Unseen Characters", but I'm neither sold nor, um, bought? on that idea. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 17:20, 29 January 2007 (EST)
**** I do think he's weird here, but I see no other option ... unless we make "Portal:Unseen Characters", but I'm neither sold nor, um, bought? on that idea. - [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|RyanGibsonStewart]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|talk]]) 17:20, 29 January 2007 (EST)
* Hi. I don't think Linderman qualifies as a "main" (1st-tier) supporting character at this point. He really is still on the periphery (if aired episodes have precedence in telling apart canon from speculation). I think the primary supporting characters should be those in (or closest to) the fore of the story. In this case, I believe those who readily qualify are the ones that are aware of the existence of the 'heroes', either from being a hero himself/herself or being a confidant/e of a main character.
* Hi. I don't think Linderman qualifies as a "main" (1st-tier) supporting character at this point. He really is still on the periphery (if aired episodes have precedence in telling apart canon from speculation). I think the primary supporting characters should be those in (or closest to) the fore of the story. In this case, I believe those who readily qualify are the ones that are aware of the existence of the 'heroes', either from being a hero himself/herself or being a confidant(e) of a main character.
: Thus I suggest taking out Linderman and Tina, and swapping in Janice Parkman. --[[User:Mercury McKinnon|Mercury McKinnon]] 19:32, 8 February 2007 (EST)
: Thus I suggest taking out Linderman and Tina, and swapping in Janice Parkman. --[[User:Mercury McKinnon|Mercury McKinnon]] 19:32, 8 February 2007 (EST)
::I agree Tina has to go. Janice fits here, too, you're right. But by your definition, Linderman would stay - he certainly knows of Isaac's precognition, and I'm sure he's aware of others' powers. Again, he's weird anywhere since he hasn't been seen. But he'll make his appearance soon enough, and I'm sure then he'll definitely belong as a supporter. May as well leave him here until then. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 19:37, 8 February 2007 (EST)
::I agree Tina has to go. Janice fits here, too, you're right. But by your definition, Linderman would stay - he certainly knows of Isaac's precognition, and I'm sure he's aware of others' powers. Again, he's weird anywhere since he hasn't been seen. But he'll make his appearance soon enough, and I'm sure then he'll definitely belong as a supporter. May as well leave him here until then. &mdash; [[User:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>RyanGibsonStewart</font>]] ([[User talk:Ryangibsonstewart|<font color=#0147FA>talk</font>]]) 19:37, 8 February 2007 (EST)
::: Hi again. Actually, I don't think Linderman qualifies 'as a supporting character by my "definition". ''At this point'', and on the basis of aired episodes, Linderman is on the periphery rather than near the center of the story, making him a peripheral character. In contrast, supporting characters, um, support the leads, which implies more interaction (and screen-time/presence) with main characters.
::: And as to whether or not Linderman is aware of the heroes, isn't that more speculative than canonical? I don't know of a scene (please set me straight if I'm wrong) that establishes/confirms that as fact.
::: So I think Linderman is more of a "recurring character". Despite his non-appearance, he definitely has had recurring mentions.
::: I do expect that Linderman is being set up to be a supporting (maybe even major) character, but I think he is not one yet ''at present''. [I keep repeating this phrase because I thought that canon (''what has actually been shown/seen'') always trumping speculation (''what has not been confirmed'') is a guiding principle on the Heroes Wiki].
::: All that said, I do respect people who have been building up this Wiki longer than I have. So let's leave Linderman's name (and non-image) in the supporting characters list for another episode or two. But if his presence hasn't increased by then, let's move him to the back row.
::: --[[User:Mercury McKinnon|Mercury McKinnon]] 04:14, 9 February 2007 (EST)

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Is Linderman a supporting character? He hasn't even appeared yet.... And if he is, then why aren't the waffles? -- Cuardin 15:49, 29 January 2007 (EST)

  • He has to go somewhere, and considering how connected he is to everybody, he'd look silly on Minor Characters. And he hasn't occurred, let alone recurred, so that rules out Recurring Characters.--Hardvice (talk) 15:57, 29 January 2007 (EST)
    • I get you point, even if the "Since he doesn't exist, he can't be a minor character, ergo he is a major character"-logic taes a while to digest :P -- Cuardin 16:10, 29 January 2007 (EST)
      • Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. Still ... even unseen, he's a bigger story element than, say, Molly Walker or Jackie.--Hardvice (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2007 (EST)
        • I do think he's weird here, but I see no other option ... unless we make "Portal:Unseen Characters", but I'm neither sold nor, um, bought? on that idea. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:20, 29 January 2007 (EST)
  • Hi. I don't think Linderman qualifies as a "main" (1st-tier) supporting character at this point. He really is still on the periphery (if aired episodes have precedence in telling apart canon from speculation). I think the primary supporting characters should be those in (or closest to) the fore of the story. In this case, I believe those who readily qualify are the ones that are aware of the existence of the 'heroes', either from being a hero himself/herself or being a confidant(e) of a main character.
Thus I suggest taking out Linderman and Tina, and swapping in Janice Parkman. --Mercury McKinnon 19:32, 8 February 2007 (EST)
I agree Tina has to go. Janice fits here, too, you're right. But by your definition, Linderman would stay - he certainly knows of Isaac's precognition, and I'm sure he's aware of others' powers. Again, he's weird anywhere since he hasn't been seen. But he'll make his appearance soon enough, and I'm sure then he'll definitely belong as a supporter. May as well leave him here until then. — RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 19:37, 8 February 2007 (EST)
Hi again. Actually, I don't think Linderman qualifies 'as a supporting character by my "definition". At this point, and on the basis of aired episodes, Linderman is on the periphery rather than near the center of the story, making him a peripheral character. In contrast, supporting characters, um, support the leads, which implies more interaction (and screen-time/presence) with main characters.
And as to whether or not Linderman is aware of the heroes, isn't that more speculative than canonical? I don't know of a scene (please set me straight if I'm wrong) that establishes/confirms that as fact.
So I think Linderman is more of a "recurring character". Despite his non-appearance, he definitely has had recurring mentions.
I do expect that Linderman is being set up to be a supporting (maybe even major) character, but I think he is not one yet at present. [I keep repeating this phrase because I thought that canon (what has actually been shown/seen) always trumping speculation (what has not been confirmed) is a guiding principle on the Heroes Wiki].
All that said, I do respect people who have been building up this Wiki longer than I have. So let's leave Linderman's name (and non-image) in the supporting characters list for another episode or two. But if his presence hasn't increased by then, let's move him to the back row.
--Mercury McKinnon 04:14, 9 February 2007 (EST)