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| Like his father, Noah was an evolved human. || None. || {{plus}} [[Power heredity]] exists in the ''Heroes'' universe. |
| Like his father, Noah was an evolved human. || None. || {{plus}} [[Power heredity]] exists in the ''Heroes'' universe. |
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| Noah is the child of Maya and Sylar. || The sex between the two is implied at the end of ''[[Episode:Truth & Consequences|Truth & Consequences]]''. || {{plus}} She is the only woman in the series to seem to have loved Sylar. <br /> |
| Noah is the child of Maya and Sylar. || The sex between the two is implied at the end of ''[[Episode:Truth & Consequences|Truth & Consequences]]''. || {{plus}} She is the only woman in the series to seem to have loved Sylar. <br /> {{minus}} Noah shows absolutely no signs of having Hispanic origins. Also, it is highly doubtful that Maya could forgive Sylar for killing her brother.<br /> |
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| Noah is the son of Elle and Sylar, who will become involved at some point. || Noah resembles both of them (He is blond, like Elle, and has brown eyes, like Sylar). || {{plus}} In the French advertisement for Season 3 of Heroes, the trailer shows a scary, but rather sexual interaction between Sylar and Elle, with Elle lying on her back as Sylar whispers "I'm a psychopathic killer" and Elle responds "Takes one to know one." <br /> |
| Noah is the son of Elle and Sylar, who will become involved at some point. || Noah resembles both of them (He is blond, like Elle, and has brown eyes, like Sylar). || {{plus}} In the French advertisement for Season 3 of Heroes, the trailer shows a scary, but rather sexual interaction between Sylar and Elle, with Elle lying on her back as Sylar whispers "I'm a psychopathic killer" and Elle responds "Takes one to know one." <br /> |
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:{{minus}} Up to this point, Claire has always been portrayed as an innocent and somewhat naive character. Even if there were relationships between younger women and older men in other shows, the younger woman was always portrayed as significantly mature for her age, either sexually, emotionally, or both. |
:{{minus}} Up to this point, Claire has always been portrayed as an innocent and somewhat naive character. Even if there were relationships between younger women and older men in other shows, the younger woman was always portrayed as significantly mature for her age, either sexually, emotionally, or both. |
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<br /> {{plus}} Notice that Claire is no longer very innocent and is becoming much more mature. And it is not true that older men with young women usually portray the young woman as mature, in fact they are usually played as young and naive to be dating an older man. Regardless of Claire's other reasons why she wouldn't be with Sylar, a 17 or 18 year old with a say, 30 year old is not a reason why they could not be together.<br /> |
<br /> {{plus}} Notice that Claire is no longer very innocent and is becoming much more mature. And it is not true that older men with young women usually portray the young woman as mature, in fact they are usually played as young and naive to be dating an older man. Regardless of Claire's other reasons why she wouldn't be with Sylar, a 17 or 18 year old with a say, 30 year old is not a reason why they could not be together.<br /> |
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:{{minus}} Yeah, I have a reason and I'll say it again! SYLAR IS CLAIRE'S UNCLE! AND CLAIRE IS SYLAR'S NIECE! It's gonna be ahell of a disgusting show if Sylar rapes |
:{{minus}} Yeah, I have a reason and I'll say it again! SYLAR IS CLAIRE'S UNCLE! AND CLAIRE IS SYLAR'S NIECE! It's gonna be ahell of a disgusting show if Sylar rapes his niece. |
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:{{note}} It's as much a valid reason as it is an invalid reason. |
:{{note}} It's as much a valid reason as it is an invalid reason. |
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{{minus}} Claire doesn't care about Noah Gray at all. |
{{minus}} Claire doesn't care about Noah Gray at all. |
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:{{minus}} When Noah died, only Sylar showed sympathy, and even exploded the whole city. |
:{{minus}} When Noah died, only Sylar showed sympathy, and even exploded the whole city. |
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<br />{{minus}} Kring has already shot down Peter/Claire due to the incest factor and age difference. |
<br />{{minus}} Kring has already shot down Peter/Claire due to the incest factor and age difference. |
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|Meredith is the mother of Noah||Blonde hair||{{plus}} Meredith is one of several characters who fits the little bit of information we have. She has blonde hair, could be described as "silver-tongued," and of all the female characters, she has been hurt the least by Sylar. Also, with both of them working for the company, their paths will cross at some point.<br /> |
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{{minus}} She wouldn't forgive him for attacking Claire. <br /> |
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{{minus}} Claire shows no remorse at the death of what would be her half-brother. <br /> |
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{{minus}} Meredith is older than Sylar. <br /> |
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:{{plus}} That isn't known for sure. We know that Nathan and Meredith are of similar age and it's not know whether Sylar is the oldest, middle, or youngest of the brothers. It's possible he's the oldest which means Meredith would be in his age range. <br /> |
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|Noah liked waffles.||He was seen eating and enjoying quality time with waffles.||{{plus}} He was extremely happy when Gabriel helps him to eat waffles.<br />{{plus}} He was eating the waffles. |
|Noah liked waffles.||He was seen eating and enjoying quality time with waffles.||{{plus}} He was extremely happy when Gabriel helps him to eat waffles.<br />{{plus}} He was eating the waffles. |
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The following fan theories are about Noah Gray.
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Theories
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| Noah Gray is actually H.R.G. (Noah Bennet) | None. | + HRG have no abilities, so he injected himself one, only to find out he became younger and younger.
- Sylar was interacting with Noah on an intimate, familial level that would not make sense if this was his work partner, eg making him waffles, turning into a nuclear bomb when he dies, and calling him son.
- In Resistance, Claire talks about the loss of her parents.
+ In "Behind the Eclipse: Week 3, authors Aron Coliete and Joe Pokaski pick up this idea but give it a little twist: Gabriel Gray IS HRG's father, but somehow little Noah timetravels back into the 60's and grows up to be HRG. This would not involve any backwards aging and is possible due to characters like Peter and Hiro being able to timetravel.
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| Angela was the reason for the birth of "Noah Gray". | In One of Us, One of Them, Angela states that she will "fix" his hunger. | + Due to Angela's precognitive ability, she can see the future and thus know what will stop Sylar from giving in to his hunger. As Gabriel stated, in "I am become Death", he does it for his son. |
| Noah is adopted. | None. | + There is no evidence of Noah's mother. - Again, Zachary Quinto has commented that the mother of his son Noah is a current Heroes character and that she is "very much alive and silver-tongued. • Yes, but did he didn't specifically say Sylar was the biological father. |
| Like his father, Noah was an evolved human. | None. | + Power heredity exists in the Heroes universe. |
| Noah is the child of Maya and Sylar. | The sex between the two is implied at the end of Truth & Consequences. | + She is the only woman in the series to seem to have loved Sylar. - Noah shows absolutely no signs of having Hispanic origins. Also, it is highly doubtful that Maya could forgive Sylar for killing her brother. |
| Noah is the son of Elle and Sylar, who will become involved at some point. | Noah resembles both of them (He is blond, like Elle, and has brown eyes, like Sylar). | + In the French advertisement for Season 3 of Heroes, the trailer shows a scary, but rather sexual interaction between Sylar and Elle, with Elle lying on her back as Sylar whispers "I'm a psychopathic killer" and Elle responds "Takes one to know one." + In the latest edition on Entertainment Weekly, the writers discuss a scene between Sylar and Elle that includes zitti, champigne, and murder from the past in which Elle turns Sylar into a killer, showing that their relationship has depth. |
| Sylar and Claire Bennett will get together--briefly or permanently--resulting in Noah. | Noah resembles them both as well, with Claire's blond hair and Sylar's brown eyes. | - The biggest thing is, Sylar/Gabriel is Claire's uncle!
+ In The Second Coming, Sylar tells Claire after he takes her power, "You're special... and I couldn't kill you, even if I wanted to," implying that he has fond feelings for her.
+ When Sylar took Claire's ability, he started talking about how to "make love stay," an odd but telling time for Sylar to become so emotional.
+ In the future, Claire states "I'm special, remember?"--the same line Sylar says to her after he takes her ability.
+ In Angels and Monsters, Sylar saved Claire from Stephen Canfield, showing that the writers are trying to build a relationship between them.
+ With Sylar's newfound ability to understand other people's feelings, he empathized with Claire when she was upset at HRG after he caused the Vortex man to commit suicide, and even though Claire still calls him a monster, she doesn't seem to truly come to peace with the situation, while Sylar smiles with tears in his eyes after talking about their misunderstood "humanity", etc.
+ The point that Claire is too young for Sylar is unfounded--TV shows and modern media have always portrayed older men with younger women (and yes, 17 is a young woman, and Claire may be turning 18, that special number, sometime soon). Plus, Claire has been portrayed as the hot young cheerleader throughout the show, even when she was younger in past seasons. Alongside this she is already maturing much in this season, has has already had her first boyfriend situation in season 2.
- Claire doesn't care about Noah Gray at all.
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| Meredith is the mother of Noah | Blonde hair | + Meredith is one of several characters who fits the little bit of information we have. She has blonde hair, could be described as "silver-tongued," and of all the female characters, she has been hurt the least by Sylar. Also, with both of them working for the company, their paths will cross at some point. - She wouldn't forgive him for attacking Claire.
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| Noah liked waffles. | He was seen eating and enjoying quality time with waffles. | + He was extremely happy when Gabriel helps him to eat waffles. + He was eating the waffles. |
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| See Also: 9 • Red • Time travel • Noah Gray | |||||||||