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* I'm new to this, so I could be wrong, but isn't the edit by Ryangibsonstewart adding "('''ONLY''' if the said '''legal adult''' in the situation is '''less than''' ''18 years, 11 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days-or younger'')," to the "age difference" section uncited? I've researched this issue throughly, and I have no idea where this came from. If they can provide a source as to where they got this information, it would be much appriciated, because I saw nothing to that effect on the state of Texas website. Also, clarification may be needed as to which state they are referring to. [[User:Potostfbeyeluvr|Potostfbeyeluvr]] 21:15, 7 January 2007 (EST)
* I'm new to this, so I could be wrong, but isn't the edit by Ryangibsonstewart adding "('''ONLY''' if the said '''legal adult''' in the situation is '''less than''' ''18 years, 11 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days-or younger'')," to the "age difference" section uncited? I've researched this issue throughly, and I have no idea where this came from. If they can provide a source as to where they got this information, it would be much appriciated, because I saw nothing to that effect on the state of Texas website. Also, clarification may be needed as to which state they are referring to. [[User:Potostfbeyeluvr|Potostfbeyeluvr]] 21:15, 7 January 2007 (EST)
** Texas is one of a few states with what's called a 'Romeo and Juliet' law: until recently, the age of consent was 17, but only when the older partner was 19 or younger. It's designed to prevent couples who started dating when both where minors to be shielded from statutory rape prosecutions when one reaches majority before the other. However, as currently in force, the age of consent is 17, and the age gap which provides an affirmative defense has been expanded to 3 years. See Texas Penal Code § 22.011.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 21:21, 7 January 2007 (EST)
** Texas is one of a few states with what's called a 'Romeo and Juliet' law: the age of consent is 17, but only when the older partner is 19 or younger. It's designed to prevent couples who started dating when both where minors to be shielded from statutory rape prosecutions when one reaches majority before the other. See Texas Penal Code § 22.011.--[[User:Hardvice|Hardvice]] <small>[[User talk:Hardvice|(talk)]]</small> 21:21, 7 January 2007 (EST)
***[http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.11.00 This] seems to indicate that a ''16'' year old can have sex with someone who is not more than three years older, and that a 17 year old can have sex with whomever they choose. Can you point me to a specific law that says otherwise? [[User:Potostfbeyeluvr|Potostfbeyeluvr]] 21:28, 7 January 2007 (EST)

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Category

  • Think maybe we need a new category that covers phenomena like this? Maybe Fan Creations or something? I'm sure Theories would also fall into the category for instance. (Admin 13:44, 29 December 2006 (EST))
    • Not a bad idea. It needs to be a category outside category:Heroes, but doesn't really fit either category:Heroes Wiki or category: Production. That said, this article needs some work. At the very least, it should note Peter's and Claire's ages from the press kit, as well as Milo's comments on the likelihood of the pairing, and needs to be a lot more careful to avoid all the fandom jargon. *Sigh* I was personally kind of hoping we could avoid all of the 'shipping stuff and focus on the show, since this stuff is just a bunch of unfunny edit wars spoiling to happen, but I guess it's inevitable.--Hardvice (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2006 (EST)
      • I'll leave the category decision to you since you're one of the category masters. ;) New top-level category maybe? I could see some fan creations being in-world and some being real-world. The article is being promoted by someone from this site so I'm hopeful they're going to want to contribute and clean the article so it looks nice. I agree with your comment about the material, my initial reaction to the article wasn't positive either. :) However, like the Theories page, this is probably something the community is interested in so I think we should definitely try to cater to it essentially becoming a one-stop-shop for people interested in the encyclopedic content as well as fan-created phenomena. I'm sure we'll find the right balance and way to integrate the fan-created content without compromising the integrity of the encyclopedic content (like we did with the Theories page). (Admin 14:10, 29 December 2006 (EST))
      • The Tolkien Gateway wiki uses the term "fanon" for somethings like this. --Ted C 14:47, 29 December 2006 (EST)
        • Interesting. I hadn't heard of "fanon" before. I checked out the definition and the only issue I'd have with it personally is that it conveys a sense that information is more canonical than it really is. I personally think we need to make it clear the category is for fan creations and not imply that a fan creation is at all canonical. Reading the article on "fanon" there's even controversy when it comes to the meaning of the word itself!  :) (Admin 14:56, 29 December 2006 (EST))
          • As used at Tolkien Gateway, "fanon" is information that is widely believed to be authentic, but has no actual basis in "canon" source material. I don't know if that's exactly what you want for this category. Right now, I'd consider any kind of romantic relationship between Claire and Peter to be pure speculation, and move it to the Speculation page as such. --Ted C 15:27, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Clach

  • This article pretty much demands a Clach article. Personally, I think worrying overmuch about the potential, as-yet unseeen love lives of fictional characters is a bit silly, but somebody ought to write it, for parity's sake if nothing else. (I might break down and write an "Uluggles" (Uluru/Mr. Muggles) article just for s&g though.)--Hardvice (talk) 16:00, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Fan Creation Flag

We're going to need to create a template warning of fan creations, as well - kind of like a spoilers flag, only not so severe. (PS - anybody want to write a "Brylar" article for Sylar's love affair with brains?) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:07, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Nice work

  • This page is coming along nicely. Kudos to everyone who's helped contribute to the article. You've all done an excellent job presenting this fan-creation in a way that fits nicely with the overall goal of this wiki. (Admin 19:31, 29 December 2006 (EST))

Uncited Additions?

  • I'm new to this, so I could be wrong, but isn't the edit by Ryangibsonstewart adding "(ONLY if the said legal adult in the situation is less than 18 years, 11 months, 3 weeks, and 6 days-or younger)," to the "age difference" section uncited? I've researched this issue throughly, and I have no idea where this came from. If they can provide a source as to where they got this information, it would be much appriciated, because I saw nothing to that effect on the state of Texas website. Also, clarification may be needed as to which state they are referring to. Potostfbeyeluvr 21:15, 7 January 2007 (EST)
    • Texas is one of a few states with what's called a 'Romeo and Juliet' law: the age of consent is 17, but only when the older partner is 19 or younger. It's designed to prevent couples who started dating when both where minors to be shielded from statutory rape prosecutions when one reaches majority before the other. See Texas Penal Code § 22.011.--Hardvice (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2007 (EST)
      • This seems to indicate that a 16 year old can have sex with someone who is not more than three years older, and that a 17 year old can have sex with whomever they choose. Can you point me to a specific law that says otherwise? Potostfbeyeluvr 21:28, 7 January 2007 (EST)