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Talk:Activation and deactivation

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Name Suggestions

  • Of course. Well, my suggestion would be simply Activation. I'm not sure of any adjectives we could add to it that would be nonspeculative, but Activation by itself would suit the ability fine, imho. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:02, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
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    • Activation sounds good --Gibbeynator 22:04, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • It can't be activation. The TV needs electrical power to turn on--something that Matt's ability provided along with 'activating' it. --Formless 22:58, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
      • It also appears to be an indefinite energy supply as none of the toys stopped doing what they were doing during the duration of the show. --Formless 22:58, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
        • Hey! Who deleted my comments? --Formless 22:58, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
          • I don't think it was done intentionally; looks like an intervening edit got lost when multiple people posted simultaneously.--MiamiVolts (talk) 23:02, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
  • My suggestion is Jumpstarting.--The Empath 22:06, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
  • I personally didn't really hear anything in the episode that could be used as a canonical name for this ability without coming off as pretty silly since they were more or less nicknaming the ability jokingly. I think we're going to have to hope for some kind of assignment tracker entry or something before we're able to legitimately rename this. (Admin 22:08, 23 March 2009 (EDT))
  • I like "Activation" or "Toddler Touch n Go", rofl. I think they did say activation once though....--(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 22:10, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I'm fine with anything that isn't "Matt Parkman, Jr.'s ability". I'm going to watch the episode again to see if I can find anything that can be used to identify this ability. I would really like to see this page renamed to either Activation or Genesis, but that's just me. ---- - Bender · Talk-
    • Going by what we know so far about his power "activation" fits best. That said, however, next episode (or GN) more light will probably be shed on this power and we'll have to change the name again. --Peter 22:15, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
  • If we are to consider the 'joking' names for the abilities, Genesis has my vote. Another suggestion: Tactile activation? Clarifies that Baby Parkman's abilities are channeled through touch. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:20, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Why is Genesis considered a 'joking' ability. The definition of it is: 1. The origin or coming into being of something. It works with Hiro's powers coming into action as well as with the electronics. Plus, it was mentioned in the show.(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genesis) ---- - Bender · Talk-
      • Hiro was making a joke, comparing it to the Genesis Device in Star Trek which "creates life from lifelessness." (Admin 22:23, 23 March 2009 (EDT))
  • Please don't call it "Touch and go".  :)--Cro Magnon 22:25, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
  • I checked the episode and I didn't see/hear the word "activation", so unless there happens to be consensus it's not really a term we can use at this point. ...and consensus on ability names is usually very difficult. (Admin 22:25, 23 March 2009 (EDT))
    • You're right Admin, I just thought the name sounded cool, it's also the name of one of my favorite bands. ---- - Bender · Talk-
  • Here's a tidbit for ya, it also deactivates. He turned on the TV, touched it again, and turned it off. Also, when he activates something, it remains activated; constant touch is not necessary. So "activation" isn't good, since he also "deactivates". --(P)uerto (R)ican (K)nock(O)ut 22:26, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Touche. Then I guess we're stuck with Baby Parkman's ability... -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:27, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Wait, hang on. I was under the impression Hiro was the one turning the television off again and again? Can I get some clarification on that? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:28, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I think Baby Parkman turned the TV on then hiro turned it off then the baby turned it on again hiro unplugged it then the baby turned it on again then turned it off again while it was unplugged, well that's what i think happened.--Icykidd 22:50, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
        • Either way, the toys are left on; which brings us back to my original point. --Formless 23:27, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
          • How is the fact that the toys were left on relevant? "Activation," or any derivation thereof, does not suggest a temporary incitement. "Activating" a credit card does not mean you can use it only right after you activate it. "Activating" an account on a website does not mean you can use it only right after you activate it. Same thing with Matt's ability. I fail to see how the toys being left on is relevant to the discussion. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 00:12, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
  • I think "genesis touch" is the best name we have. I also think Admin is right in that the name was used jokingly, but that it does apply (though only as a description).--MiamiVolts (talk) 22:38, 23 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I would go with "Touch and Go" just like we had to go with "Bliss and Horror". I actually kind of like the name anyway... :) --Action Figure 00:08, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
  • I definitely think that Genesis is the best name since it was mentioned on the show and many people seem to agree. Rather than coming up with something out of thin air (like Activation) we should stick to the script and do it by the book. User:Themunchkym
  • I also think "Touch and Go" is a suitable name. The article itself mentioned that is what Hiro called it. Doesn't that make it canon? --Elemental Manipulator [ U | T | C ] - When in doubt, ask BTE 00:23, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I don't think the issue is whether or not it's canon (it most certainly is), but whether or not it's a valid name in and of itself. I mean, it was obviously not used as a serious name for the ability. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 00:25, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Given that we have witnessed Matt Jr. use his ability to enable the existing functions of objects and people (a television set was made to display images; a former time manipulator was able to freeze time), I propose that the ability be temporarily entitled "functional enabling" or "functional activation." --Jeffrey the Red 00:38, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
    • That's actually pretty good. Maybe functional genesis as well? So that it has a basis in canon? -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 00:48, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
      • Personally I like Genesis Touch as a descriptor. Genesis was mentioned in the episode, while touch describes how it is used. --Bob1519 22:23, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

How he got it

Apparently the second eclipse gave powers as well as took them away: it gave Junior here his power.--WarGrowlmon18 00:48, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

Consensus

Ugh, here is the part I hate. --Piemanmoo 01:22, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

Activation

  1. My vote goes for this one: simple, concise, and it fits. --Piemanmoo 01:22, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

"Touch and Go" (a la "Bliss and Horror")

Matt Parkman Jr.'s ability

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