Talk:The list
It should be noted that with the exception of Hiro, almost everybody in the list was located in the United States.
I'm curious as to what order these people are listed in. It's not alphabetical, it's not geographical, and it doesn't appear to be in order of age. Any ideas?
-Ryangibsonstewart 14:09, 22 November 2006 (EST)
- Perhaps it was the order in which he discovered them. --Psiphiorg 23:39, 22 November 2006 (EST)
The List as Characters
- Personally, I don't really have an opinion on whether the "unknown" characters listed on Chandra's list each have their own page or not (though I don't see the harm in it...) But I do think that if there is going to be a page with a list of those characters, they should at least be separated into 2 pages: living and deceased. Ryangibsonstewart 00:18, 28 November 2006 (EST)
- For awhile now only three unknown members of the list have had pages. They seem pretty pointless to me. I vote for deleting them. --Fcphantom 14:57, 4 December 2006 (EST)
- I tend to agree. We have zero information on these characters, and since they're dead, it's less likely we'll get any info on them than it is that we'll get info on the living ones. If they do become important, we can always re-add the pages.--Hardvice (talk)
- I think not making the pages right now is a fine idea - though it wouldn't hurt to have them. If someone feels it's so necessary to make them, it does no harm. Kind of pointless, though ... My only thought, in light of the previews for January 22 - Mr. Bennet says that it's of utmost importance who is on the list. I'm sure that's going to be important at some point, and we'll have to revisit the issue when we learn more. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2006 (EST)
- I took the links out, but they got re-added because of the orphaned pages. Can those three de deleted? It really annoys me that they show up on the Category: Evolved Humans page which we link to so often. It also annoys me that only three of the people on the list have pages and the rest don't. --Fcphantom 18:28, 9 December 2006 (EST)
- I've placed them in the Articles for Deletion category. They'll get cleared out soon if there aren't any major objections, but I agree they should be deleted. There's not much purpose to them until there's actually some useful information about the characters. (Admin 18:46, 9 December 2006 (EST))
- How about redirecting them to the list for now? That way, on the one-in-a-million chance that someone comes here and searches for "Felipe Acerra", they'll get a page that has just as much info about good ol' Felipe as the Felipe article has now ... i.e. that he's dead and he's on the list. We can always recreate the articles if Felipe and pals somehow become important later on.--Hardvice (talk) 19:27, 9 December 2006 (EST)
- Why just three of them, though? People could search for any of the people on that list. Plus if someone uses the search function on the site it should find the names in The list already. The only case I think it would help is where they type in the name of the article manually. Personally, I'd opt to just delete them entirely until there's actually some info on them. They could very well just be names to take up space, we may never actually hear anything about those names. (Admin 20:00, 9 December 2006 (EST))
- I say all or none. I don't mind having the pages (they're not hurting anybody), but they are kind of pointless. If someone wants to create a page for each, fine. But until then, delete them. Redirecting them to "the list" wouldn't really work because the only page that links to those people are "the list". I say delete the pages for now. There's not so much info that we can't re-add them later on, if necessary. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:38, 9 December 2006 (EST)
- Why just three of them, though? People could search for any of the people on that list. Plus if someone uses the search function on the site it should find the names in The list already. The only case I think it would help is where they type in the name of the article manually. Personally, I'd opt to just delete them entirely until there's actually some info on them. They could very well just be names to take up space, we may never actually hear anything about those names. (Admin 20:00, 9 December 2006 (EST))
- How about redirecting them to the list for now? That way, on the one-in-a-million chance that someone comes here and searches for "Felipe Acerra", they'll get a page that has just as much info about good ol' Felipe as the Felipe article has now ... i.e. that he's dead and he's on the list. We can always recreate the articles if Felipe and pals somehow become important later on.--Hardvice (talk) 19:27, 9 December 2006 (EST)
- I've placed them in the Articles for Deletion category. They'll get cleared out soon if there aren't any major objections, but I agree they should be deleted. There's not much purpose to them until there's actually some useful information about the characters. (Admin 18:46, 9 December 2006 (EST))
- I took the links out, but they got re-added because of the orphaned pages. Can those three de deleted? It really annoys me that they show up on the Category: Evolved Humans page which we link to so often. It also annoys me that only three of the people on the list have pages and the rest don't. --Fcphantom 18:28, 9 December 2006 (EST)
- I think not making the pages right now is a fine idea - though it wouldn't hurt to have them. If someone feels it's so necessary to make them, it does no harm. Kind of pointless, though ... My only thought, in light of the previews for January 22 - Mr. Bennet says that it's of utmost importance who is on the list. I'm sure that's going to be important at some point, and we'll have to revisit the issue when we learn more. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2006 (EST)
- I tend to agree. We have zero information on these characters, and since they're dead, it's less likely we'll get any info on them than it is that we'll get info on the living ones. If they do become important, we can always re-add the pages.--Hardvice (talk)
- For awhile now only three unknown members of the list have had pages. They seem pretty pointless to me. I vote for deleting them. --Fcphantom 14:57, 4 December 2006 (EST)
Names in the List
- In light of David Berman's name being on the list, I searched through the other names, and I found out that Amid Halebi was a character credited in the first episode (Genesis) on TV.com, [1] played by Omid Abtahi. I don't recall seeing this character, but there should be some significance here, right? Reubs1 5:27, 28 November 2006 (EST)
Another Screenshot
Great work on compiling the names! ... I don't have access to doing screen shots, but I remember the episode last week showing more names after Hiro's ... Does anybody have a better list (or a better screenshot?), or is this just minutae that can be left alone... Ryangibsonstewart 15:34, 28 November 2006 (EST)
- I checked Six Months Ago ... it's the same as Homecoming, unfortunately. I think it's the same shot, even.--Hardvice (talk) 16:20, 28 November 2006 (EST)
Identified vs Suspected Evolved Humans
Is this list really a list of identified evolved humans, or just suspected? My argument is that Sylar appeared on the list, and Chandra turned him away. Plus, people appeared on the list before their powers appeared ... Any thoughts? Ryangibsonstewart 22:58, 28 November 2006 (EST)
- Sounds right to me, and I believe we've referred to it as a list of suspected or presumed evolved humans on some of the pages which link here.--Hardvice (talk) 23:02, 28 November 2006 (EST)
Other names on the List
Should there be a list of people that are mentioned as being on the list but their names are not shown? (note: not who could be on the list, but who is on the list) Level 13:38, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- Sounds ok to me. I am assuming that the list actually represents everyone with special powers. In that case, it would be everyone who appears in Category:Evolved Humans. Other than Claire Bennet, I'm not sure who else was mentioned as being on the list (to date). --Orne 14:13, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- We can't tell who all is listed offscreen, of course, but I thought it was interesting that Nathan is listed, but Peter is not.--Hardvice (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- It's interesting, too, that Hiro and some dude named Abu are the only ones not from America. (And that all the states are abbreviated except for Sparrow Redhouse - by the way, what a name!) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- Well, if Mr. Redhouse is an American Indian, it may be that they are referencing a reservation in New Mexico, which would be outside of the jurisdiction of the US government (and possibly not have a registered town name). Checking Google for a bit, Redhouse is a valid last name for the Navajo Council, New Mexico. --Orne 15:26, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- It's interesting, too, that Hiro and some dude named Abu are the only ones not from America. (And that all the states are abbreviated except for Sparrow Redhouse - by the way, what a name!) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2006 (EST)
- We can't tell who all is listed offscreen, of course, but I thought it was interesting that Nathan is listed, but Peter is not.--Hardvice (talk) 14:28, 15 December 2006 (EST)
New Sections
The new sections seem a little redundant. It's pretty easy to tell who we've seen (they have links) and who is dead (they're in red) already. Also, as written it's in the wrong person and perspective.--Hardvice (talk) 13:17, 16 December 2006 (EST)
- Agree. Aside from the formatting issues, it's good information. However, we've already seen it in the table above. It's basically just taking the list and putting it into a different format. I think it's unnecessary. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:21, 16 December 2006 (EST)
Dead People
We can't really assume any of the dead people on the list are Sylar's victims. Why not? Because Mohinder found the list in his father's office in India. That means he more than likely hasn't updated that copy since he left for New York -- before there even was a Sylar. We know it doesn't update itself (Charlie is still listed as alive). It's possible Chandra stored it on a remote server, but there's no evidence to support that conclusion, and in any case, several of Sylar's victims have been killed since Chandra was murdered.--Hardvice (talk) 14:39, 16 December 2006 (EST)