Talk:Maya Herrera
Known power
I'm confused on something. On the "known power" space, it says Maya's power is "none". However, we know she has a power, we just don't know exactly what it is. So is her known power still "none"? --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 20:21, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
- Right, if we take into account spoiler info, we could add her to the evolved human category but since the exact power is not known, "known power" should be "none". Minus spoilers, also, we don't know she has a power. She could simply have a virus similar to one described in Chandra's book.--MiamiVolts (talk) 20:42, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
- You said it yourself, Heroe: we don't know what her power is. So she has no known power. Confusing, I agree. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:08, 18 September 2007 (EDT)
- Shouldn't it make more sense to put "unknown" rather than "none"? When you use "none", it seems to state that she doesn't have a power at all, which isn't true. -- Reubs1 03:42, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- I've updated it on the theory we know she has the power to kill people, even though we don't know almost nothing about how she kills people. --Ted C 10:07, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- On a related note, would we want to create a page called Hana's power, to be renamed later when we know more about it? --Ted C 10:09, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
I have thought the way we use the 'known power' box is confusion as well. This option is really has a tri-phased answer, and the way it is designed presently, it is can only handle a two-phased answer (Y/N). What if we changed the label to just say: "power:" (removing the 'known'); and then we only support 3 answers.
- 1) power: none (no power exists) or
- 2) power: Flight (a power exists, and we have agreed upon its name) or
- 3) power: uncertain (a power exists, but we are yet uncertain of its name...and their might be a better word than uncertain, but the premise it conveys should show a yet-to-be-named power definately exists)
This tri-phase approach would remove the confusion, and we would know for every person, whether or not they have a power, and if it is certain, what that power is. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 09/25/2007 10:17 (EST)
- That would be an acceptable solution to me. --Ted C 13:04, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- I like HiroDynoSlayer's solution, but it opens debate on whom we are sure is an evolved human. ie. is Charles Deveaux evolved? I'm okay with that, but I think that's the main reason this was not previously changed as HDS is now suggesting.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- "Uncertain" actually allows more leeway than HiroDynoSlayer suggests, since it can be used for characters who may or may not have a power, although there is reason to think they do. You could also use "uncertain" for people about whom we suspect a power without being sure, and using "undefined" for characters we know have a power without knowing what it does. --Ted C 13:25, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- I like HiroDynoSlayer's solution, but it opens debate on whom we are sure is an evolved human. ie. is Charles Deveaux evolved? I'm okay with that, but I think that's the main reason this was not previously changed as HDS is now suggesting.--MiamiVolts (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
Reflections on Four Months Later
I think she has the power to explode people's brains. Or something.--IMax 00:55, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
- As Hardvice mentioned on the episode page, until we witness the use of her power, we can't name it, but my guess is that she is altering the makeup of people's blood stream (thus the black-colored blood; the GN Maya and Alejandro showed with the autopsy that the black fluid is not limited to the eyes/face, but is in the chest cavity as well).--MiamiVolts (talk) 04:02, 25 September 2007 (EDT)
Spoiler Tags Still Necessary?
We now know that Maya and Alejandro are characters, even if we don't know that they'll be on the show without spoiling it. I think we took Hana's spoiler tag off when her first comic was released, so why not these two? --AvadaNella 00:41, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
- The main reason is that unlike the Hana graphic novel, this graphic novel didn't confirm their identities so that's still a spoiler. On a related note, if the article is despoiled we should swap in the graphic novel photos for their portraits, but we don't have to do that yet cause the characters were not officially introduced in the graphic novel.--MiamiVolts (talk) 00:58, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
- Exactly. Hana's was a different case, because she was introduced as a graphic novel character first, and there had been no spoiler article for her. It wasn't until much later that she became an episodic character. These characters were first identified as episodic spoilers, then introduced as GN characters, and will eventually be seen as episodic characters. Now, had the characters been explicitly identified in the GN, we'd be in the curious position of making a spoiler character into a GN character and then into an episodic character, but since they weren't explicitly identified, they should remain spoiler characters.--Hardvice (talk) 03:04, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
- Ah, I gotcha. Sorry if I came off with a little "do-it-like-this-or-it'll-be-wrong" attitude. =P --AvadaNella 00:27, 20 September 2007 (EDT)
- Not at all. We all just like to give very detailed answers sometimes to help clarify things. :) (Admin 00:32, 20 September 2007 (EDT))
- Ah, I gotcha. Sorry if I came off with a little "do-it-like-this-or-it'll-be-wrong" attitude. =P --AvadaNella 00:27, 20 September 2007 (EDT)
- Exactly. Hana's was a different case, because she was introduced as a graphic novel character first, and there had been no spoiler article for her. It wasn't until much later that she became an episodic character. These characters were first identified as episodic spoilers, then introduced as GN characters, and will eventually be seen as episodic characters. Now, had the characters been explicitly identified in the GN, we'd be in the curious position of making a spoiler character into a GN character and then into an episodic character, but since they weren't explicitly identified, they should remain spoiler characters.--Hardvice (talk) 03:04, 19 September 2007 (EDT)
Maya's Power Name
Can we come up with a name for her ability? Could we start with something simple like, Viral Poisoning (since the GN uses the phrase these people were poisoned by somebody and it says the ability to host a deadly virus? At least that would allow us to get her catalogued and listed, and if we need to tweak the name later, it would all be in place. --HiroDynoSlayer (talk) 09/25/2007 10:45 (EST)
- Not until we see her use her power. I think it's not a bad idea, though, if we want to talk about what it could be. You're right about my deriving the name viral poisoning from the graphic novel. :)--MiamiVolts (talk) 11:03, 25 September 2007 (EDT)