Talk:Sylar
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Sylar will do good...
I think that Sylar (or Gabriel nowadays) will do some good. I base this on the scene with his mom. It showed compassion and warmth that bad guys don't really have traditionally. He draws stuff with her blood after killing her of course, but still. Also I wreckon it will be like a Darth Vadar moment, where before dieing he will destroy some other evil. --SomeoneImportant 20:38, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
- Yeah... sure. He promised something like that to Alejandro. ;) --BloodyFox, 15:33, 9 Nov. 2007 (CEST)
Illusion
OK, I haven't actually seen the incident, but I've read that Sylar attempted to steal Illusion from Candice. Apparently he didn't get it, whether due to damaging her brain when he killed her or some other factor (like her deceiving him into attacking an illusion instead of her true self) is unclear, and I'm further from knowing what happened than most of us. If anyone wants to try to clarify the incident... --Ted C 09:50, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
- I think the implication we're supposed to get is that at the moment, for reasons unclear, Sylar can't use ANY of his powers... From what we could see, he took Candice's brain and did his usual power-stealing thing, but he is unable to use Candice's power because he can't use any powers right now... Now, if he should ever be able to access his powers again, he will most likely be able to access Candice's power of illusion. I don't think his inability to use the ability is tied to how he took Candice's power, or her using illusion... it's simply the same thing that's stopping him from accessing his other powers (as I believe that Sylar hasn't lost the abilities; he just can't access them). Bohrok Awakener 13:19, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
- That is almost certainly correct. But just to reiterate, we can't confirm that he successfully stole Candice's ability until we see him use it. The possibility exists, however slim, that he has lost the ability to take powers permanently, that because he did not have access to his powers when he killed her he now cannot gain her ability, or that he will never regain access to any of his abilities. Because of that, all we can say for now is that he tried to take her ability.--Hardvice (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
- Is there final conclusion on if Sylar's Intuitive Aptitude is still working? Are all his powers gone, or can he just not access them? I mean, if his Intuitive Aptitude isn't working, then would he still have been able to take Candices ability in the first place? Sigh, this is why they need to be clearer on how he obtains the powers. If everyone's power is different, one can assume he needs to use his Intuitive Aptitude to see how it works in the brain, then duplicate it. If it's not working, he can't duplicate the power. On the other hand, he might just be so used to it now, that he doesn't need to tap in to his ability...Confusing, no?Felixdakat (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- It seems likely that he sees how it works. Because he was under the impression that he had taken the power from her. He tried to use it, but failed. If he hadn't been able to understand it, he would have probably not tried to use it and would have been able to realize that he wasn't able to understand anything from her brain.Timiswatchingyou 17:19, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- My theory on that whole thing was as follows - Peter had his powers suppressed by taking the "Haitian Pills" daily in his cell. I'm pretty sure Candice worked for the company, so she might have had access to them and been giving them to Sylar. He could have wised up to them, but not enough to get his powers back yet. Perhaps when they wear off fully, he'll be able to use Illusions. PsymonM77 14:12, 28 November 2007
- It seems likely that he sees how it works. Because he was under the impression that he had taken the power from her. He tried to use it, but failed. If he hadn't been able to understand it, he would have probably not tried to use it and would have been able to realize that he wasn't able to understand anything from her brain.Timiswatchingyou 17:19, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- Is there final conclusion on if Sylar's Intuitive Aptitude is still working? Are all his powers gone, or can he just not access them? I mean, if his Intuitive Aptitude isn't working, then would he still have been able to take Candices ability in the first place? Sigh, this is why they need to be clearer on how he obtains the powers. If everyone's power is different, one can assume he needs to use his Intuitive Aptitude to see how it works in the brain, then duplicate it. If it's not working, he can't duplicate the power. On the other hand, he might just be so used to it now, that he doesn't need to tap in to his ability...Confusing, no?Felixdakat (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- That is almost certainly correct. But just to reiterate, we can't confirm that he successfully stole Candice's ability until we see him use it. The possibility exists, however slim, that he has lost the ability to take powers permanently, that because he did not have access to his powers when he killed her he now cannot gain her ability, or that he will never regain access to any of his abilities. Because of that, all we can say for now is that he tried to take her ability.--Hardvice (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2007 (EDT)
My Feelings
I really don't believe that Sylar is the one who is going to be the real bad guy in this season, but HRG will end up coming out as a bad guy. Maybe thats why he gets shot... Just my speculation. You never know. Dean Harper 23:40, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
What I'd like to see
When Sylar's got his abilities back I have one scene in mind I'd like to see: There is a close-up on Sylar and you see him lifting his finger, using his telekinesis. Than he's to say something like: "Yes... now it's all mine!" (and you here these ticking sounds). The camera-perspective now changes and you see Sylar is making lunch and he just opened a tin can with some beans in it ^^ --BloodyFox, 12:47, 10 Nov. 2007 (CEST)
- I wonder if it's possible to telekinetically spread butter on waffles?--Hardvice (talk) 06:51, 10 November 2007 (EST)
- I'd go with magerine, I guess it's easier to spread this on waffles than butter. --BloodyFox, 12:58, 10 Nov. 2007 (CEST)
Levitation
Sylar managed to sneak up on Dale Smither without being heard even when she had enhanced hearing. Sylar says there were no footsteps which would point to the use of levitation. Perhaps this is another usage of Telekinesis or maybe another power... Dave 20:02, 13 November 2007 (GMT)
- I think they were intending on us believeing that he was just hovering himself around using telekinesis.--.Vault 10:24, 22 November 2007 (EST)
A question
What would happen if Sylar took Mayas ability and Peter came into contact with Alejandro and absorbed his? IIRC Sylar doesn't know Alejandro has a power so he may not kill him. Or what If Sylar and Peter ended up having both powers? Would they be able to have total control over both powers? Meatydoughnut 16:15, 22 November 2007 (EST)
- Sylar does know about Alejandro's power. After first seeing Maya, he says something like "you both have powers" or something like that. --SomeoneImportant 18:42, 22 November 2007 (EST)
- That's right. Peter would probably be able to negate Sylar's stolen ability if he held his hand.--Ice Vision 21:11, 22 November 2007 (EST)
- Sylar definitely knows Alejandro and Maya both have powers. Furthermore, he has made it very clear to Alejandro (who apparently doesn't speak English that well) that he intends to kill them both when he regains his abilities: I know you don't understand me, but I want to tell you why I'm helping you. It's that delicious power. You see, when I get my ability back, I'm going to kill you. And your sister. And I'm going to take it all. Timiswatchingyou 17:14, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- I didn't get that Sylar knows Alejandro has an ability at all. Sure, it may be true, but the above statement could just as easily be talking about killing both of them and taking just Maya's power. That's how I understood it when I heard it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:40, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- Like SomeoneImportant said, Sylar said "you both have power" after the whole Derek-ratted-them-out incident.--Ice Vision 17:53, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:55, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- Like SomeoneImportant said, Sylar said "you both have power" after the whole Derek-ratted-them-out incident.--Ice Vision 17:53, 24 November 2007 (EST)
- I didn't get that Sylar knows Alejandro has an ability at all. Sure, it may be true, but the above statement could just as easily be talking about killing both of them and taking just Maya's power. That's how I understood it when I heard it. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 17:40, 24 November 2007 (EST)
Hiding in plain sight
I wonder if this is a power that should be added, as it seems he has used it at least twice. When he was a Primatech prisoner, he was able to be "invisible" in his cell when Noah came in and found the dead tech. And at the deserted Kirby Plaza, Peter expressly notes that Sylar may be "hiding in plain sight."
PaulP 11:47, 26 November 2007 (EST)
- Hey, PaulP. The explanation for that could range from dramatic effect to Sylar using telekinesis to remain somewhere close but out of sight (perhaps stuck to the ceiling of his cell like he did to Mohinder in his apartment). In any event before it could be called a power there would have to be concrete proof (i.e. We'd have to directly observe him executing the ability). Also do bare in mind that when Sylar attacked Peter in Mohinder's apartment Peter turned invisible and Sylar remarked that he couldn't wait to try out that power, so it doesn't look like he has any specific invisibility power quite yet. (Admin 11:55, 26 November 2007 (EST))
- Good points! What I think Sylar may have, though, is not so much invisibility as an ability not to be seen, but you're right that there is no direct evidence of that, as opposed to, say, an ability to TK himself out of sight lines, like West does. Then again, I don't think there is any direct evidence of "electromagnetism," either, but that's a whole other debate! PaulP 13:15, 29 November 2007 (EST)
Full Name?
I know everyone knows him as Sylar but just looking around the sight everyone has a full name and i was just wondering why we had Sylar instead of Gabriel Gray? I think we should have him named Gabriel Gray and under nicknames have it be Sylar... i think its just better fit for a website looking more professional each day.
- We name (most) articles by what the role is credited as. Zachary Quinto is credited as Sylar, thus this article is named Sylar. Also, even though his real name is Gabriel, he calls himself Sylar, another reason for this article name. Same with Niki, who's full name is Nicole, and DL, who's full name is Daniel Laurence. --Hero!(talk)(contribs) 14:08, 1 December 2007 (EST)