Talk:Timeline/Archive:OldTimeline

This page is fantastic! Are you going to add this to the main site, or are you working on it apart from everything else? Ryangibsonstewart 02:21, 27 November 2006 (EST)

• Mohinder's opening scene in Genesis is labeled "3 days ago". Would that make it ... September 27? That would make Chandra's death sometime around Sep 26 or 27.--Hardvice (talk) 23:56, 29 November 2006 (EST)

• Yes, good catch! Sounds right to me... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 00:54, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Homecoming

• The episode Homecoming keeps mentioning the homecoming game and then the dance. Wouldn't that be more likely to be a Friday (Oct. 20) than a Sunday (Oct. 22)? Where did the 22nd date come from? --Fcphantom 01:39, 30 November 2006 (EST)
  • Well, 3 weeks from Monday the 1st... I don't like it either, High School Homecomings are almost always a Friday or a Saturday. --Orne 11:36, 30 November 2006 (EST)
    • She probably just didn't mean "three weeks" literally. If something was happening 19-20 days from now, I'd say "three weeks", even though it's not 3 weeks to the day. Of course, that makes our job harder (and quite likely impossible)--Hardvice (talk) 11:46, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Hiro's Return

• Is it safe to assume Hiro returned to the present on Oct 22 if he had to fly from Japan and take a bus? I'm guessing he probably came back at least a day early.--Hardvice (talk) 13:05, 30 November 2006 (EST)
  • Reading comprehension is hard.--Hardvice (talk) 13:07, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Time between Charlie's murder and Homecoming

In Claire's blog on her myspace page it suggests that there is a week or two between Charlie's murder and Homecoming.

Friday, November 17, 2006 Homecoming

--Level 14:22, 30 November 2006 (EST)

• Claire's blog isn't the show, though. Was Ando really sitting there in the diner for a week or two? Would they really allow that?--Hardvice (talk) 14:28, 30 November 2006 (EST)
  • I don't buy that Ando was waiting more than 24 hours, though I'm speculating, of course... Is Claire's blog considered canon now? Hope not ... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:00, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Self-consistency Theory

• I'm glad the self-consistency theory was added to the timeline page - it's a pretty important concept to the show, and adds to Hiro's character (I think a blurb about it on Hiro's page is necessary - maybe even a page for the theory itself?) - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Consistent Formatting for Dates

I think we need to come up with consistent formatting for dates... I've seen, for instance, 22 October, October 22, and October 22nd. Even on the timeline itself, we have October 14-20, and right below it is is October 20th. I personally vote for the "October 22" model, but whatever... - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Timeline Irregularities

• Mohinder's statement about James Walker, and Zach's statement to Claire that he's "only been (her) friend for two weeks" seem to call the entire timeline into question. James was killed the morning of Don't Look Back, which should be October 2nd (making the date of Mohinder's phone call October 11). Claire and Zach resumed their friendship on October 1st, making their two-week "anniverary" about October 15th. When you discount for "Six Months Ago", both of these statements are roughly consistent with the one episode = one day (or so) approach. I'm thinking the writers are trying to ditch the "homecoming's three weeks away" line, and that's what our entire timeline hinges on. Also, our current timeline means that Hiro and Ando took sixteen days to go from Los Angeles to west Texas.--Hardvice (talk) 13:19, 5 December 2006 (EST)
  • I work at a University - I'll see if I can find someone here who can read the Japanese newspaper and find a date. --Fcphantom 13:22, 5 December 2006 (EST)
    • No good. There's no date (and apparently no mention of sparrows or dragons either). Besides, it was from Six Months Ago so wouldn't have been as helpful as I thought. --Fcphantom 16:32, 5 December 2006 (EST)
  • You make an excellent point, Hardvice. At first, I played it off as a character error - maybe Clair was just estimating, or maybe she didn't count her friendship with Zach from the first day. But I never did the Hiro/Ando math, and that's pretty convincing.
    
    It seems to me that perhaps the writers are dealing with some inconsistencies, and are now, maybe, trying to "cover" themselves. I don't know the best way to deal with this on the timeline, though ... Let's hope we get some more dates (a la Ben telling Jack what day it was on "Lost") in the near future. - RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2006 (EST)
    • Maybe they'll even peruse this wiki and realize we're scrutinizing the timeline and start being very careful about it from now on. ;) (Admin 22:38, 5 December 2006 (EST))
    • I'll try to work out some new dates for this page, based on the information in Fallout. However, I'm going to keep all of the quotes/comments that characters make during the previous shows relating to the passage of time. My personal opinion is the pilot was written several months before the show was picked up full-time, and the script at that time did not properly account for the amount of action that the writers want to occur before the explosion. Incidentally, if the date is Oct 11, and the explosion is Nov 8, that gives them 4 weeks for everyone to make their way to NYC --Orne 11:15, 6 December 2006 (EST)
• What's interesting to me though is that if the date is now Oct 11, that would make Homecoming a Tuesday night, which goes against almost all high school practice. However, it occurs to me that maybe we've been incorrectly thinking that the scene in the school in Homcoming occurs on Homecoming day, when in reality, what we've been seeing is the preparation for homecoming, and the game that the cheerleaders are going to is the Bishop game (which was roughly a week from the first episode). --Orne 11:15, 6 December 2006 (EST)
  • Simone tells Peter that "Homecoming is tonight", though.--Hardvice (talk) 12:36, 6 December 2006 (EST)